dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-18 Thread Brian France
 I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command 
but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with 
fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!!


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Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-18 Thread David Spiegel

Hi Brian,
You may be interested in File 112 on the "CBT Tape" (cbttape.org) . I've 
been using it for more than 35 years and it has many filtering and print 
options.


Regards,
David

On 2020-06-18 08:53, Brian France wrote:
 I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command 
but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with 
fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!!




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Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-18 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
To be precise, MAP is not an FDR function, it is an ABR function, which also 
came along with COMPAKTR. When we dismissed the latter, we also lost the MAP 
function.

Kees.

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Subject: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

  I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command 
but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with 
fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!!

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Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-18 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:53 AM Brian France  wrote:

>   I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command
> but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with
> fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!!
>

I don't know what an FDR MAP does. but if you need to know what datasets
are on a DFDSS dump tape, then run a RESTORE with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'

Something like:

//JS010EXEC  PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN',
// REGION=0M
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//TAPE1DD  DSN=JES2DISK.ADRDSSU,
// DISP=OLD
//SYSINDD  *
 RESTORE  -
DATASET( -
  INCL( -
   **-
) -
   ) -
IDD(TAPE1) -
ADMINISTRATOR -
TOL(ENQF) WAIT(0,0)




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Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-18 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
FDR MAP produces a physical map of the volume, with from-to CCHHR for each 
dataset and their extents.

Kees


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On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:53 AM Brian France  wrote:

>   I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command
> but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with
> fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!!
>

I don't know what an FDR MAP does. but if you need to know what datasets
are on a DFDSS dump tape, then run a RESTORE with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'

Something like:

//JS010EXEC  PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN',
// REGION=0M
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//TAPE1DD  DSN=JES2DISK.ADRDSSU,
// DISP=OLD
//SYSINDD  *
 RESTORE  -
DATASET( -
  INCL( -
   **-
) -
   ) -
IDD(TAPE1) -
ADMINISTRATOR -
TOL(ENQF) WAIT(0,0)




>
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> Systems Administrator (Mainframe)
> Pennsylvania State University
> Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC
> Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802
> 814-863-4739
> b...@psu.edu
>
> There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer...
>
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>
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Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-18 Thread Brian France
That's what we're looking for and DFDSS does not seem to have the 
equivalent


On 6/18/2020 9:42 AM, Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM wrote:

FDR MAP produces a physical map of the volume, with from-to CCHHR for each 
dataset and their extents.

Kees


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Sent: 18 June 2020 15:36
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Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:53 AM Brian France  wrote:


   I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command
but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with
fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!!


I don't know what an FDR MAP does. but if you need to know what datasets
are on a DFDSS dump tape, then run a RESTORE with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'

Something like:

//JS010EXEC  PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN',
// REGION=0M
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//TAPE1DD  DSN=JES2DISK.ADRDSSU,
// DISP=OLD
//SYSINDD  *
  RESTORE  -
 DATASET( -
   INCL( -
**-
 ) -
) -
 IDD(TAPE1) -
 ADMINISTRATOR -
 TOL(ENQF) WAIT(0,0)





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Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-18 Thread Brian France

Howdy Dave,

   I will have a look at it. Thanks...

On 6/18/2020 9:01 AM, David Spiegel wrote:

Hi Brian,
You may be interested in File 112 on the "CBT Tape" (cbttape.org) . 
I've been using it for more than 35 years and it has many filtering 
and print options.


Regards,
David

On 2020-06-18 08:53, Brian France wrote:
 I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print 
command but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we 
do with fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to 
it... THANX!!!




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Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-18 Thread Allan Staller
Adrdssu defrag will produce some of the same information.

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That's what we're looking for and DFDSS does not seem to have the equivalent

On 6/18/2020 9:42 AM, Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM wrote:
> FDR MAP produces a physical map of the volume, with from-to CCHHR for each 
> dataset and their extents.
>
> Kees
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On
> Behalf Of John McKown
> Sent: 18 June 2020 15:36
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:53 AM Brian France  wrote:
>
>>I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print
>> command but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we
>> do with fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... 
>> THANX!!!
>>
> I don't know what an FDR MAP does. but if you need to know what
> datasets are on a DFDSS dump tape, then run a RESTORE with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
>
> Something like:
>
> //JS010EXEC  PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN',
> // REGION=0M
> //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
> //TAPE1DD  DSN=JES2DISK.ADRDSSU,
> // DISP=OLD
> //SYSINDD  *
>   RESTORE  -
>  DATASET( -
>INCL( -
> **-
>  ) -
> ) -
>  IDD(TAPE1) -
>  ADMINISTRATOR -
>  TOL(ENQF) WAIT(0,0)
>
>
>
>
>> --
>> Brian W. France
>> Systems Administrator (Mainframe)
>> Pennsylvania State University
>> Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University
>> Park, Pa. 16802
>> 814-863-4739
>> b...@psu.edu
>>
>> There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer...
>>
>> "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe."
>>
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>>
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Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-18 Thread Carmen Vitullo
ZAP ? 
AMASPZAP I may have some jcl let me look 


Carmen Vitullo 

- Original Message -

From: "Brian France"  
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:45:19 AM 
Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map 

That's what we're looking for and DFDSS does not seem to have the 
equivalent 

On 6/18/2020 9:42 AM, Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM wrote: 
> FDR MAP produces a physical map of the volume, with from-to CCHHR for each 
> dataset and their extents. 
> 
> Kees 
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
> John McKown 
> Sent: 18 June 2020 15:36 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
> Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:53 AM Brian France  wrote: 
> 
>> I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command 
>> but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with 
>> fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!! 
>> 
> I don't know what an FDR MAP does. but if you need to know what datasets 
> are on a DFDSS dump tape, then run a RESTORE with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' 
> 
> Something like: 
> 
> //JS010 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN', 
> // REGION=0M 
> //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
> //TAPE1 DD DSN=JES2DISK.ADRDSSU, 
> // DISP=OLD 
> //SYSIN DD * 
> RESTORE - 
> DATASET( - 
> INCL( - 
> ** - 
> ) - 
> ) - 
> IDD(TAPE1) - 
> ADMINISTRATOR - 
> TOL(ENQF) WAIT(0,0) 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> -- 
>> Brian W. France 
>> Systems Administrator (Mainframe) 
>> Pennsylvania State University 
>> Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC 
>> Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 
>> 814-863-4739 
>> b...@psu.edu 
>> 
>> There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer... 
>> 
>> "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." 
>> 
>> Carl Sagan 
>> 
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Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-18 Thread David Spiegel

Hi John,
I am well aware of this capability, and I really do not want to appear 
to be overly chauvinistic, BUT, VTOC (File 112 on the CBT Tape) beats 
the pants off of your solution.


Regards,
David

On 2020-06-18 09:36, John McKown wrote:

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:53 AM Brian France  wrote:


   I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command
but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with
fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!!


I don't know what an FDR MAP does. but if you need to know what datasets
are on a DFDSS dump tape, then run a RESTORE with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'

Something like:

//JS010EXEC  PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN',
// REGION=0M
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//TAPE1DD  DSN=JES2DISK.ADRDSSU,
// DISP=OLD
//SYSINDD  *
  RESTORE  -
 DATASET( -
   INCL( -
**-
 ) -
) -
 IDD(TAPE1) -
 ADMINISTRATOR -
 TOL(ENQF) WAIT(0,0)





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814-863-4739
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Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-18 Thread Carmen Vitullo
this may help 
quick and dirty 

JCL to dump the VTOC on a DASD volume: 

//CC10 EXEC PGM=AMASPZAP, 
// PARM=parm 
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
//SYSLIB DD DSN=FORMAT4.DSCB,DISP=OLD,UNIT=3390, 
// VOL=SER=mypack,DCB=KEYLEN=44 
//SYSIN DD * 
ABSDUMPT ALL 

Carmen Vitullo 

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From: "Carmen Vitullo"  
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:48:14 AM 
Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map 

ZAP ? 
AMASPZAP I may have some jcl let me look 


Carmen Vitullo 

- Original Message - 

From: "Brian France"  
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:45:19 AM 
Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map 

That's what we're looking for and DFDSS does not seem to have the 
equivalent 

On 6/18/2020 9:42 AM, Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM wrote: 
> FDR MAP produces a physical map of the volume, with from-to CCHHR for each 
> dataset and their extents. 
> 
> Kees 
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
> John McKown 
> Sent: 18 June 2020 15:36 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
> Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:53 AM Brian France  wrote: 
> 
>> I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command 
>> but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with 
>> fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!! 
>> 
> I don't know what an FDR MAP does. but if you need to know what datasets 
> are on a DFDSS dump tape, then run a RESTORE with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' 
> 
> Something like: 
> 
> //JS010 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN', 
> // REGION=0M 
> //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
> //TAPE1 DD DSN=JES2DISK.ADRDSSU, 
> // DISP=OLD 
> //SYSIN DD * 
> RESTORE - 
> DATASET( - 
> INCL( - 
> ** - 
> ) - 
> ) - 
> IDD(TAPE1) - 
> ADMINISTRATOR - 
> TOL(ENQF) WAIT(0,0) 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> -- 
>> Brian W. France 
>> Systems Administrator (Mainframe) 
>> Pennsylvania State University 
>> Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC 
>> Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 
>> 814-863-4739 
>> b...@psu.edu 
>> 
>> There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer... 
>> 
>> "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." 
>> 
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>> 
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Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-18 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
CA-DISK has a similar function: Volume Map. The report is a little less useful 
(to me) so I process it with SAS to generate an FDR like report.

Kees.


Volume Map by CCH.   
 
Volser=SYSR02
 
Dsname  LengthExtent  CCH
 
  *VTOC*  270   1  16:00 
SYSRECV.TSS.MVST.VSAMBKUP   1   2  40:10 
SYSRECV.TSS.MVSX.VSAMBKUP   1   2  40:11 
SYSRECV.TSS.MVSY.VSAMBKUP   1   2  40:12 
SYSRECV.SAR.PROD.SARRECV1   1  40:13 
SYSRECV.TSS.MVSC.VSAMBKUP   1   2  40:14 
SYSRECV.TSS.MVST.VSAMBKUP  15   1  41:00 
  **FREE SPACE**   14  42:00 
SYSRECV.ICF.VXSYS30.ALIASES.G8056V001   1  42:14 
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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Brian France
Sent: 18 June 2020 15:45
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

That's what we're looking for and DFDSS does not seem to have the 
equivalent

On 6/18/2020 9:42 AM, Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM wrote:
> FDR MAP produces a physical map of the volume, with from-to CCHHR for each 
> dataset and their extents.
>
> Kees
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
> John McKown
> Sent: 18 June 2020 15:36
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:53 AM Brian France  wrote:
>
>>I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command
>> but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with
>> fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!!
>>
> I don't know what an FDR MAP does. but if you need to know what datasets
> are on a DFDSS dump tape, then run a RESTORE with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
>
> Something like:
>
> //JS010EXEC  PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN',
> // REGION=0M
> //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
> //TAPE1DD  DSN=JES2DISK.ADRDSSU,
> // DISP=OLD
> //SYSINDD  *
>   RESTORE  -
>  DATASET( -
>INCL( -
> **-
>  ) -
> ) -
>  IDD(TAPE1) -
>  ADMINISTRATOR -
>  TOL(ENQF) WAIT(0,0)
>
>
>
>
>> --
>> Brian W. France
>> Systems Administrator (Mainframe)
>> Pennsylvania State University
>> Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC
>> Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802
>> 814-863-4739
>> b...@psu.edu
>>
>> There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer...
>>
>> "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe."
>>
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>>
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Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-18 Thread Pommier, Rex
DITTO or FileManager will produce such a disk volume map.

Rex

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Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:42 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [External] Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

FDR MAP produces a physical map of the volume, with from-to CCHHR for each 
dataset and their extents.

Kees


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
John McKown
Sent: 18 June 2020 15:36
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:53 AM Brian France  wrote:

>   I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print 
> command but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we 
> do with fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... 
> THANX!!!
>

I don't know what an FDR MAP does. but if you need to know what datasets are on 
a DFDSS dump tape, then run a RESTORE with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'

Something like:

//JS010EXEC  PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN',
// REGION=0M
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//TAPE1DD  DSN=JES2DISK.ADRDSSU,
// DISP=OLD
//SYSINDD  *
 RESTORE  -
DATASET( -
  INCL( -
   **-
) -
   ) -
IDD(TAPE1) -
ADMINISTRATOR -
TOL(ENQF) WAIT(0,0)




>
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> Pennsylvania State University
> Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC
> Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802
> 814-863-4739
> b...@psu.edu
>
> There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer...
>
> "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe."
>
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>
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Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-18 Thread Carmen Vitullo
forget the PARM=PARM 
will get you (a mess in email) but readable in your SYSOUT 



8C 
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STH STH STH STH STH STH STH STH STH STH * * 
F1E2 E8E2 D9E2 E900 0177 0056  0001   * 1SYS* 
MVO MVCIN MVCK PKA *RSZ.* 
0087   0200 C000 7FF8   0080 8800 ** 
LARL SU SRL *.."8* 
8E00 000F E000 0A00       *...M.%-.* 
SRDA SVC ** 
* * 


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STH STH STH STH STH STH STH STH STH STH * * 
F1E2 E8E2 D9E2 E900 0177 0056  0001   * 1SYS* 
MVO MVCIN MVCK PKA *RSZ.* 
0087   0200 C000 7FF8   0080 8000 ** 
LARL SU SSM *.."8* 
E000 0B0F E800 0400       ** 
BSM MVCIN SPM *Y...* 
* * 


Carmen Vitullo 

- Original Message -

From: "Carmen Vitullo"  
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:53:04 AM 
Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map 

this may help 
quick and dirty 

JCL to dump the VTOC on a DASD volume: 

//CC10 EXEC PGM=AMASPZAP, 
// PARM=parm 
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
//SYSLIB DD DSN=FORMAT4.DSCB,DISP=OLD,UNIT=3390, 
// VOL=SER=mypack,DCB=KEYLEN=44 
//SYSIN DD * 
ABSDUMPT ALL 

Carmen Vitullo 

- Original Message - 

From: "Carmen Vitullo"  
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:48:14 AM 
Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map 

ZAP ? 
AMASPZAP I may have some jcl let me look 


Carmen Vitullo 

- Original Message - 

From: "Brian France"  
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:45:19 AM 
Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map 

That's what we're looking for and DFDSS does not seem to have the 
equivalent 

On 6/18/2020 9:42 AM, Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM wrote: 
> FDR MAP produces a physical map of the volume, with from-to CCHHR for each 
> dataset and their extents. 
> 
> Kees 
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
> John McKown 
> Sent: 18 June 2020 15:36 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
> Subject: Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:53 AM Brian France  wrote: 
> 
>> I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command 
>> but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with 
>> fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!! 
>> 
> I don't know what an FDR MAP does. but if you need to know what datasets 
> are on a DFDSS dump tape, then run a RESTORE with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' 
> 
> Something like: 
> 
> //JS010 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN', 
> // REGION=0M 
> //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
> //TAPE1 DD DSN=JES2DISK.ADRDSSU, 
> // DISP=OLD 
> //SYSIN DD * 
> RESTORE - 
> DATASET( - 
> INCL( - 
> ** - 
> ) - 
> ) - 
> IDD(TAPE1) - 
> ADMINISTRATOR - 
> TOL(ENQF) WAIT(0,0) 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> -- 
>> Brian W. France 
>> Systems Administrator (Mainframe) 
>> Pennsylvania State University 
>> Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC 
>> Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 
>> 814-863-4739 
>> b...@psu.edu 
>> 
>> There's no such thing as The Cloud - it's just someone else's computer... 
>> 
>> "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." 
>> 
>> Carl Sagan 
>> 
>> -- 
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> 
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Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC 
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814-863-4739 
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Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-18 Thread Jousma, David
If you have File Manager, there is a VTOC utility

File Manager Display VTOC Data Set List 
   Row 00137 of 00219 
Command ===>
   Scroll CSR  
Unit*DSN   '**' 
   
DevType *VOLSTATE  ALL SMS SG * 
   
Volumes 1Data sets 105 VSAM   12  non-VSAM 93   
   
VOLSER  CAT500   Trks used 23191   Free   127064  Utilized 15%  
   
Data Set NameSeq Volume Begin CYL-HD 
End CYL-HD Tracks Dsorg Recfm Lrecl Blksize Created   
**   CAT500 **  
   * *   * 
SYS1.APPCTP.DATA   1 CAT500  1248  0  
1249  8   24 VSU 04096 2003.065  
SYS1.APPCTP.INDEX  1 CAT500  1238  1  
1238  11 VSU 04096 2003.065  
SYS1.DFSMS.ACDS.DATA   1 CAT500   321  0   
325 14   75 VSU 04096 2002.355  
SYS1.DFSMS.COMMDS.DATA 1 CAT500   326  0   
330 14   75 VSU 04096 2002.355  
SYS1.DFSMS.SCDS.DATA   1 CAT500  1129  0  
1133 14   75 VSU 04096 2002.355  
SYS1.EQQ.TWS1.CKPT 1 CAT500   131  0   
131 14   15 PSU  82008200 2003.223  
SYS1.EQQ.TWS1.EQQAUDIT.REPORT  1 CAT500   130  0   
130 14   15 PSFBA 133   13300 2003.223  
SYS1.EQQ.TWS1.TRACKLOG 1 CAT500   129  0   
129 14   15 PSVB32756   32760 2003.223  
SYS1.IPLPARM   1 CAT500   552  0   
561 14  150 POFB   806160 2004.014  
SYS1.PAGEDUMP.VCAT500  1 CAT50038  0
44  1   92 PSF  40964096 2020.022  
SYS1.PARMLIB   1 CAT500   733  2   
749  7  246 POFB   80   27920 2004.029  
SYS1.PARMLIB   2 CAT500   187  0   
188 14   30 POFB   80   27920 2004.029  
SYS1.PARMLIB   3 CAT500   189  0   
190 14   30 POFB   80   27920 2004.029  
SYS1.PARMLIB   4 CAT500   210  6   
212  5   30 POFB   80   27920 2004.029  
SYS1.PARMLIB   5 CAT500   215  0   
216 14   30 POFB   80   27920 2004.029  
SYS1.PARMLIB   6 CAT500   217  0   
218 14   30 POFB   80   27920 2004.029  
SYS1.PARMLIB   7 CAT500   119 12   
121 11   30 POFB   80   27920 2004.029  

_
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AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering  

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0087   0200 C000 7FF8   0080 8000 ** 
LARL SU SSM *.."8* 
E000 0B0F E800 0400       ** 
BSM MVCIN SPM *Y...* 
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Carmen Vitullo 

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Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-18 Thread David Spiegel

Hi Brian,
Please discard all of those other weak-kneed potential solutions. This 
one is the Cadillac!
Here is a JCL sample that will not only map 1 volume, but, will also 
include maps of all volumes with a common prefix (think SMS Storage Group):

//STEP001 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01
//STEPLIB  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=FILE135.PDS
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSIN  DD *
  VTOC STG0 -
   CAT -
   LIM(CAT NE C) -
  PRINT(NEW (CAT ALLOC  UNUSED PCT EX DSO RFM LRECL BLKSZ CDATE REFDT -
  VOLUME DSNAME))
//STEP002 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01
//STEPLIB  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=FILE135.PDS
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSIN  DD *
  VTOC STG0 -
   CAT -
    /* LIM(CAT NE C) */ -
  PRINT(NEW (CAT ALLOC  UNUSED PCT EX DSO RFM LRECL BLKSZ CDATE REFDT -
  VOLUME DSNAME))
//STEP003 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01
//STEPLIB  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=FILE135.PDS
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSIN  DD *
  VTOC STG0 -
   CAT -
    /* LIM(CAT NE C) */ -
    SORT(ALLOC,D) -
  PRINT(NEW (CAT ALLOC  UNUSED PCT EX DSO RFM LRECL BLKSZ CDATE REFDT -
  VOLUME DSNAME))
//STEP004 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01
//STEPLIB  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=FILE135.PDS
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSIN  DD *
  VTOC STG0 -
   CAT -
    /* LIM(CAT NE C) */ -
    SORT(UNUSED,D) -
  PRINT(NEW (CAT ALLOC  UNUSED PCT EX DSO RFM LRECL BLKSZ CDATE REFDT -
  VOLUME DSNAME))

STEP001 - Find all Datasets on all volumes whose VOLSER starts with STG0 
that are not Cataloged or are Catalog Entries with no actual Dataset
STEP002 - Find all Datasets on all volumes whose VOLSER starts with STG0 
that are Cataloged
STEP003 - Find all Datasets on all volumes whose VOLSER starts with STG0 
that are Cataloged. Print output by descending sort of Allocated space
STEP004 - Find all Datasets on all volumes whose VOLSER starts with STG0 
that are Cataloged. Print output by descending sort of Unused space


Please also note that you can search a volume (or range of volumes) for 
partial DSNAMEs, even when the partial DSNAME does not contain an HLQ. 
(This may take a while and should be used with caution.)

VTOC runs in TSO interactively or batch.

Regards,
David

On 2020-06-18 09:46, Brian France wrote:

Howdy Dave,

   I will have a look at it. Thanks...

On 6/18/2020 9:01 AM, David Spiegel wrote:

Hi Brian,
You may be interested in File 112 on the "CBT Tape" (cbttape.org) . 
I've been using it for more than 35 years and it has many filtering 
and print options.


Regards,
David

On 2020-06-18 08:53, Brian France wrote:
 I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print 
command but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we 
do with fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to 
it... THANX!!!




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Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
The CBT tape has lots of VTOC display programs. I would use Gerhard's version 
of IEHVTOC, but I'm sure that it's not the only one that can sort extents by 
address.

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Subject: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

  I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command
but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with
fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!!

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Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-18 Thread Roger Lowe
On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 08:53:37 -0400, Brian France  wrote:

>  I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command
>but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with
>fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!!
>

Have you tried using IEHLIST?

//S001 EXEC PGM=IEHLIST
//FILE DD UNIT=DISK,VOL=SER=??,DISP=SHR
//SYSPRINT DD   SYSOUT=Z   
//SYSINDD   *  
  LISTVTOC VOL=3390=??


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Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-18 Thread Steve Horein
That was my first thought as well, but didn't remember to execute samples
today.

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 1:42 PM Roger Lowe  wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 08:53:37 -0400, Brian France  wrote:
>
> >  I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command
> >but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with
> >fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!!
> >
>
> Have you tried using IEHLIST?
>
> //S001 EXEC PGM=IEHLIST
> //FILE DD UNIT=DISK,VOL=SER=??,DISP=SHR
> //SYSPRINT DD   SYSOUT=Z
> //SYSINDD   *
>   LISTVTOC VOL=3390=??
>
>
> Roger
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Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-18 Thread Leon Trafalski

DFDSS defrag with NORUN will provide a map.

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On 6/19/2020 6:14 AM, Steve Horein wrote:

That was my first thought as well, but didn't remember to execute samples
today.

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 1:42 PM Roger Lowe  wrote:


On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 08:53:37 -0400, Brian France  wrote:


  I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print command
but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we do with
fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!!


Have you tried using IEHLIST?

//S001 EXEC PGM=IEHLIST
//FILE DD UNIT=DISK,VOL=SER=??,DISP=SHR
//SYSPRINT DD   SYSOUT=Z
//SYSINDD   *
   LISTVTOC VOL=3390=??


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Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-20 Thread Tim Hare
Question: does it really matter with a volume that's a virtual thing 
implemented on a RAID array?

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Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-21 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 20 Jun 2020 19:33:23 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
haresystemssupp...@comcast.net (Tim Hare) wrote:

>Question: does it really matter with a volume that's a virtual thing 
>implemented on a RAID array? 

Number of extents still would matter.  Also if the data set was
allocated in tracks rather than cylinders there could bee more end of
extent checking.

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Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-22 Thread Brian France

Many thanks to all the responses!!!

David,

    Thank you!!! This is exactly what we are looking for. I just 
changed a sort to be "volume,a" and pretty much have the report we use 
via fdr compaktor.


   Someone asked did this really matter for raid... we use it to recall 
data sets got deleted within the last month but are found to be needed 
as we back up weekly all volumes to tape and run fdr map at that time. 
We can then find the volume it's on so we know which tape to call for.


On 6/18/2020 10:13 AM, David Spiegel wrote:

Hi Brian,
Please discard all of those other weak-kneed potential solutions. This 
one is the Cadillac!
Here is a JCL sample that will not only map 1 volume, but, will also 
include maps of all volumes with a common prefix (think SMS Storage 
Group):

//STEP001 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01
//STEPLIB  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=FILE135.PDS
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSIN  DD *
  VTOC STG0 -
   CAT -
   LIM(CAT NE C) -
  PRINT(NEW (CAT ALLOC  UNUSED PCT EX DSO RFM LRECL BLKSZ CDATE REFDT -
  VOLUME DSNAME))
//STEP002 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01
//STEPLIB  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=FILE135.PDS
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSIN  DD *
  VTOC STG0 -
   CAT -
    /* LIM(CAT NE C) */ -
  PRINT(NEW (CAT ALLOC  UNUSED PCT EX DSO RFM LRECL BLKSZ CDATE REFDT -
  VOLUME DSNAME))
//STEP003 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01
//STEPLIB  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=FILE135.PDS
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSIN  DD *
  VTOC STG0 -
   CAT -
    /* LIM(CAT NE C) */ -
    SORT(ALLOC,D) -
  PRINT(NEW (CAT ALLOC  UNUSED PCT EX DSO RFM LRECL BLKSZ CDATE REFDT -
  VOLUME DSNAME))
//STEP004 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01
//STEPLIB  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=FILE135.PDS
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSIN  DD *
  VTOC STG0 -
   CAT -
    /* LIM(CAT NE C) */ -
    SORT(UNUSED,D) -
  PRINT(NEW (CAT ALLOC  UNUSED PCT EX DSO RFM LRECL BLKSZ CDATE REFDT -
  VOLUME DSNAME))

STEP001 - Find all Datasets on all volumes whose VOLSER starts with 
STG0 that are not Cataloged or are Catalog Entries with no actual Dataset
STEP002 - Find all Datasets on all volumes whose VOLSER starts with 
STG0 that are Cataloged
STEP003 - Find all Datasets on all volumes whose VOLSER starts with 
STG0 that are Cataloged. Print output by descending sort of Allocated 
space
STEP004 - Find all Datasets on all volumes whose VOLSER starts with 
STG0 that are Cataloged. Print output by descending sort of Unused space


Please also note that you can search a volume (or range of volumes) 
for partial DSNAMEs, even when the partial DSNAME does not contain an 
HLQ. (This may take a while and should be used with caution.)

VTOC runs in TSO interactively or batch.

Regards,
David

On 2020-06-18 09:46, Brian France wrote:

Howdy Dave,

   I will have a look at it. Thanks...

On 6/18/2020 9:01 AM, David Spiegel wrote:

Hi Brian,
You may be interested in File 112 on the "CBT Tape" (cbttape.org) . 
I've been using it for more than 35 years and it has many filtering 
and print options.


Regards,
David

On 2020-06-18 08:53, Brian France wrote:
 I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print 
command but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as 
we do with fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to 
it... THANX!!!




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Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-22 Thread Graham Harris
If you are only interested in which datasets are on which volumes, then
DCOLLECT would surely do the job.


On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 at 15:45, Brian France  wrote:

> Many thanks to all the responses!!!
>
> David,
>
>  Thank you!!! This is exactly what we are looking for. I just
> changed a sort to be "volume,a" and pretty much have the report we use
> via fdr compaktor.
>
> Someone asked did this really matter for raid... we use it to recall
> data sets got deleted within the last month but are found to be needed
> as we back up weekly all volumes to tape and run fdr map at that time.
> We can then find the volume it's on so we know which tape to call for.
>
> On 6/18/2020 10:13 AM, David Spiegel wrote:
> > Hi Brian,
> > Please discard all of those other weak-kneed potential solutions. This
> > one is the Cadillac!
> > Here is a JCL sample that will not only map 1 volume, but, will also
> > include maps of all volumes with a common prefix (think SMS Storage
> > Group):
> > //STEP001 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01
> > //STEPLIB  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=FILE135.PDS
> > //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
> > //SYSTSIN  DD *
> >   VTOC STG0 -
> >CAT -
> >LIM(CAT NE C) -
> >   PRINT(NEW (CAT ALLOC  UNUSED PCT EX DSO RFM LRECL BLKSZ CDATE REFDT -
> >   VOLUME DSNAME))
> > //STEP002 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01
> > //STEPLIB  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=FILE135.PDS
> > //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
> > //SYSTSIN  DD *
> >   VTOC STG0 -
> >CAT -
> > /* LIM(CAT NE C) */ -
> >   PRINT(NEW (CAT ALLOC  UNUSED PCT EX DSO RFM LRECL BLKSZ CDATE REFDT -
> >   VOLUME DSNAME))
> > //STEP003 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01
> > //STEPLIB  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=FILE135.PDS
> > //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
> > //SYSTSIN  DD *
> >   VTOC STG0 -
> >CAT -
> > /* LIM(CAT NE C) */ -
> > SORT(ALLOC,D) -
> >   PRINT(NEW (CAT ALLOC  UNUSED PCT EX DSO RFM LRECL BLKSZ CDATE REFDT -
> >   VOLUME DSNAME))
> > //STEP004 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01
> > //STEPLIB  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=FILE135.PDS
> > //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
> > //SYSTSIN  DD *
> >   VTOC STG0 -
> >CAT -
> > /* LIM(CAT NE C) */ -
> > SORT(UNUSED,D) -
> >   PRINT(NEW (CAT ALLOC  UNUSED PCT EX DSO RFM LRECL BLKSZ CDATE REFDT -
> >   VOLUME DSNAME))
> >
> > STEP001 - Find all Datasets on all volumes whose VOLSER starts with
> > STG0 that are not Cataloged or are Catalog Entries with no actual Dataset
> > STEP002 - Find all Datasets on all volumes whose VOLSER starts with
> > STG0 that are Cataloged
> > STEP003 - Find all Datasets on all volumes whose VOLSER starts with
> > STG0 that are Cataloged. Print output by descending sort of Allocated
> > space
> > STEP004 - Find all Datasets on all volumes whose VOLSER starts with
> > STG0 that are Cataloged. Print output by descending sort of Unused space
> >
> > Please also note that you can search a volume (or range of volumes)
> > for partial DSNAMEs, even when the partial DSNAME does not contain an
> > HLQ. (This may take a while and should be used with caution.)
> > VTOC runs in TSO interactively or batch.
> >
> > Regards,
> > David
> >
> > On 2020-06-18 09:46, Brian France wrote:
> >> Howdy Dave,
> >>
> >>I will have a look at it. Thanks...
> >>
> >> On 6/18/2020 9:01 AM, David Spiegel wrote:
> >>> Hi Brian,
> >>> You may be interested in File 112 on the "CBT Tape" (cbttape.org) .
> >>> I've been using it for more than 35 years and it has many filtering
> >>> and print options.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> David
> >>>
> >>> On 2020-06-18 08:53, Brian France wrote:
>   I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print
>  command but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as
>  we do with fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to
>  it... THANX!!!
> 
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Re: [External] Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-18 Thread Pommier, Rex
In John's defense, when I saw "volume map" and "dfdss" in the same sentence, I 
thought like John did, that you wanted a tape volume map.  That's what I get 
for thinking this early in the morning.  :-)

Rex

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David Spiegel
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To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [External] Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

Hi John,
I am well aware of this capability, and I really do not want to appear to be 
overly chauvinistic, BUT, VTOC (File 112 on the CBT Tape) beats the pants off 
of your solution.

Regards,
David

On 2020-06-18 09:36, John McKown wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:53 AM Brian France  wrote:
>
>>I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print 
>> command but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we 
>> do with fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... 
>> THANX!!!
>>
> I don't know what an FDR MAP does. but if you need to know what 
> datasets are on a DFDSS dump tape, then run a RESTORE with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
>
> Something like:
>
> //JS010EXEC  PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN',
> // REGION=0M
> //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
> //TAPE1DD  DSN=JES2DISK.ADRDSSU,
> // DISP=OLD
> //SYSINDD  *
>   RESTORE  -
>  DATASET( -
>INCL( -
> **-
>  ) -
> ) -
>  IDD(TAPE1) -
>  ADMINISTRATOR -
>  TOL(ENQF) WAIT(0,0)
>
>
>
>
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>> Pennsylvania State University
>> Penn State IT - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University 
>> Park, Pa. 16802
>> 814-863-4739
>> b...@psu.edu
>>
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>>
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>>
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Re: [External] Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-18 Thread Brian France
No that's what I get for not being clearer in what I was looking for 
this early in the morning. :-)


On 6/18/2020 9:56 AM, Pommier, Rex wrote:

In John's defense, when I saw "volume map" and "dfdss" in the same sentence, I 
thought like John did, that you wanted a tape volume map.  That's what I get for thinking this 
early in the morning.  :-)

Rex

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Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 8:49 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [External] Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

Hi John,
I am well aware of this capability, and I really do not want to appear to be 
overly chauvinistic, BUT, VTOC (File 112 on the CBT Tape) beats the pants off 
of your solution.

Regards,
David

On 2020-06-18 09:36, John McKown wrote:

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:53 AM Brian France  wrote:


I can't find a dfdss equivalent to fdr's map. I see the print
command but can't seem to get a whole volume list of data sets as we
do with fdr's map. If it exists would someone please point me to it... THANX!!!


I don't know what an FDR MAP does. but if you need to know what
datasets are on a DFDSS dump tape, then run a RESTORE with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'

Something like:

//JS010EXEC  PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN',
// REGION=0M
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//TAPE1DD  DSN=JES2DISK.ADRDSSU,
// DISP=OLD
//SYSINDD  *
   RESTORE  -
  DATASET( -
INCL( -
 **-
  ) -
 ) -
  IDD(TAPE1) -
  ADMINISTRATOR -
  TOL(ENQF) WAIT(0,0)





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Re: [External] Re: dfdss equivalent to fdr map

2020-06-22 Thread Pommier, Rex
Yes, because z/OS (well, the allocation routines anyway) knows nothing of the 
back-end storage.  As far as z/OS is concerned its data is still sitting on 
SLED 3390 volumes so things like free extent sizes and so on still matter.  

Rex

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Question: does it really matter with a volume that's a virtual thing 
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