Re: Browsing large (dump) files
Richard, Can you point me to where I can find SHOW. I did not see it on the VMTOOLS disk (although I will have another look in case I missed it). Thanks in advance Colin Allinson Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We also use Dump Analyzer and have been satisfied with it. It is designed for processing TPF dumps. If it is too steeply priced, the freebie SHOW performs all of the required functions. In fact, it incorporates many more of the XEDIT capabilities. Regards, Richard Schuh
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Re: Browsing large (dump) files
I renamed my copy of SHOW to SHOWFILE but then set an alias as LOOK. Its locate subcommand is so much like XEDIT that there are some execs I have that I have forgotten whether I have coded a call to LOOK or a call to XE DIT to display the file. The only subcommand that trips me up is changing to HEXIDECIMAL display. It isn't like XEDIT and it isn't quite like BROWSE. /Tom Kern On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:00:57 +0200, Colin Allinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, Thank you all for the help on this. (isn't this list wonderful). I now have a copy of SHOW and it looks perfect for the job that we need. The only problem is the name because it conflicts with a couple of other things we have - but that is fairly easy to get round. In the package there was documentation I have found so far that describe s writing PROFILEs / MACROs but, looking at those supplied, they seem to u se identical commands to XEDIT so, until I find otherwise, I am going to assume it is the same. Colin Allinson
Re: Browsing large (dump) files
Hi, Colin. There should be a CMS help file for SHOW that lists and describes all of the SHOW subcommands and how to use them in SHOW macros. The design of SHOW was heavily influenced by XEDIT, so many of the subcommands (extract, set, shadow, all, etc.) work in a similar fashion. Have a good one. DJ Colin Allinson wrote: All, Thank you all for the help on this. (isn't this list wonderful). I now have a copy of SHOW and it looks perfect for the job that we need. The only problem is the name because it conflicts with a couple of other things we have - but that is fairly easy to get round. In the package there was documentation I have found so far that describes writing PROFILEs / MACROs but, looking at those supplied, they seem to use identical commands to XEDIT so, until I find otherwise, I am going to assume it is the same. Colin Allinson Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/3/06, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We also use Dump Analyzer and have been satisfied with it. It is designed for processing TPF dumps. If it is too steeply priced, the freebie SHOW performs all of the required functions. In fact, it incorporates many more of the XEDIT capabilities. You can also have SHOW macro's and implement the markers by GLOBALV variables though that. And SHOW also takes files straight out of the virtual RDR. Alternatively, you might be able to use the browse stage in CMS Pipelines for it. You'd need wrappers around it to select portions to be browsed (because browse will keep all records it saw so far to allow going upwards again). Rob
Re: Browsing large (dump) files
The most recent date in the distribution that I have is 1999-08-24 07:58:04. Phil Smith may have later updates. If so, he will probably chime in. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Dieltiens Geert Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 1:35 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Browsing large (dump) files Colin, You can get SHOW from the University of Maine. This is from an oldVM-list posting, and I believe it's still valid: It is available w/o charge via FTP FTP host: wts.unet.maine.edu user: anonymous pswd: your e-mail address, please Move to the SHOW directory and then download SHOW.VMARC with a binary transfer (about 1.3Megabytes). In CMS, then reformat the file for VMARC with: pipe show vmarc a|fblock 80 00| show vmarc a Bye, Geert. _ Geert Dieltiens Systeembeheerder Informatica J. Van Breda C° Tel.: + 32 3 217 50 16 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colin Allinson Sent: vrijdag 4 augustus 2006 8:37 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Browsing large (dump) files Richard, Can you point me to where I can find SHOW. I did not see it on the VMTOOLS disk (although I will have another look in case I missed it). Thanks in advance Colin Allinson Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We also use Dump Analyzer and have been satisfied with it. It is designed for processing TPF dumps. If it is too steeply priced, the freebie SHOW performs all of the required functions. In fact, it incorporates many more of the XEDIT capabilities. Regards, Richard Schuh DISCLAIMER This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] This footnote also confirms that this email has been checked for the presence of viruses. Informatica J.Van Breda Co NV BTW BE 0427 908 174
Going to VSWITCH...routing problems?
I have vswitch setup on the IFL with Linux images and the TCP/IP stack connected to it. All seems to work well. OSA OSA | | Vswctrl1 Vswctrl2 | | __||___ | || | Linux22Linux40Linux41 TCP/IP Now I'm planning for the 390 side. It currently looks like: OSA | TCP/IP | ___ | | | || VSE1VSE2 VSE3 VSE4 CMS My first cut would be to bring up VSWITCH and connect TCP/IP to the VSWITCH LAN. And then stop right there. My older VSE systems can't connect to a Guest LAN. The VSE/ESA 2.7 systems can. So I will migrate them from connection to TCP/IP to the Guest LAN at a later date. But the question is... When I move the entire IP network from the TCP/IP stack and the VSE systems to run under a VSWITCH, will I have any routing problems that I need to address? This is on a z/890 with z/VM 5.1. Thanks Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting
Re: Going to VSWITCH...routing problems?
If the VSwitch will be on the same subnet as the current configuration, you should not have to change anything, except the VM directory entry (and maybe device numbers, if they will change). That also assumes that you're using OSA Express connections now. Tom Duerbusch wrote: I have vswitch setup on the IFL with Linux images and the TCP/IP stack connected to it. All seems to work well. OSA OSA | | Vswctrl1 Vswctrl2 | | __||___ | || | Linux22Linux40Linux41 TCP/IP Now I'm planning for the 390 side. It currently looks like: OSA | TCP/IP | ___ | | | || VSE1VSE2 VSE3 VSE4 CMS My first cut would be to bring up VSWITCH and connect TCP/IP to the VSWITCH LAN. And then stop right there. My older VSE systems can't connect to a Guest LAN. The VSE/ESA 2.7 systems can. So I will migrate them from connection to TCP/IP to the Guest LAN at a later date. But the question is... When I move the entire IP network from the TCP/IP stack and the VSE systems to run under a VSWITCH, will I have any routing problems that I need to address? This is on a z/890 with z/VM 5.1. Thanks Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2007 - Green Bay, WI - May 18-22, 2007
Re: Going to VSWITCH...routing problems?
Also, you'll want to verify that there isn't any service required specifically for the OSA code on VSE to use the VSwitch. Check the vse-l archives, there may have been discussions along that line in the past (or check IBMLink or the support center). Tom Duerbusch wrote: I have vswitch setup on the IFL with Linux images and the TCP/IP stack connected to it. All seems to work well. ... -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2007 - Green Bay, WI - May 18-22, 2007
Re: Going to VSWITCH...routing problems?
On Friday, 08/04/2006 at 10:21 EST, Tom Duerbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I move the entire IP network from the TCP/IP stack and the VSE systems to run under a VSWITCH, will I have any routing problems that I need to address? This is on a z/890 with z/VM 5.1. When you move a network, the important characteristic is the topology, not the communication path. That is, the *direction* the packets flow, not *how* they flow. For example, say you have a bunch of virtual CTC connections between VM TCP/IP and your VSE guests. They are in Subnet B. VM TCP/IP also connects to the external network on Subnet A. As long a VM TCP/IP remains as the routing waypoint, you can change the VSE guests to a Guest LAN and not have any routing poblems. Now, if you begin to add or delete waypoints, then you will have routing changes. If you don't make those correctly, then you have problems. I couldn't tell from your pictures (they were somewhat mangled) what was Before and what was After. Only by comparing those two can you tell if there are routing considerations. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
SYSPROF
Hello, I need to modify SYSPROF EXEC. On my vanilla zVM 5.1 system, I successfully implemented this change. On the test system I am building for the customers I am experiencing problems. The SYSPROF EXEC on MAINT 190 disk has the modification. I have resaved ALL of the cms segments (CMSFILES, SVM, CMSVMLIB, CMSPIPES, INSTSEG, HELPSEG, GUICSLIB, NLSUCENG, NLSGER, NLSKANJI, NLSAMENG, SCEE, SCEEX). I think the only one that needed to be resaved was INSTSEG, but being that didn't work - I saved them all. I even put a trace into the region where the modification exists to ensure it was passing through that code and that it was picking up my modified copy... But it isn't executing this portion of the code. The modification consists of 1 line preceding the ESTATE PROFILE EXEC statement, before it invokes the userid's PROFILE EXEC. As I said, these same steps worked on my vanilla zVM 5.1. These same steps are not functioning on the merged system for a customer test environment... Please advice. Thank you. Cecelia Dusha
Re: SYSPROF
Found the problem. CMSINST LSEGMAP loads from the 490 disk... I should not take short cuts... I should have followed the local modification procedures to implement this. But the steps I followed worked on the other zVM 5.1 system... The modified code is on the 190 disk and when I saved the segments, the modified code was picked up - even though CMSINST LSEGMAP point to the 490 disk... Thanks. Cecelia Dusha -Original Message- From: Dusha, Cecelia Ms. WHS/ITMD Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 9:33 AM To: 'The IBM z/VM Operating System' Subject: RE: SYSPROF I realized this reads as if this is a coding problem... SYSPROF EXEC does invoke the userid's PROFILE EXEC which is the next statement... It just does not execute the modification... Thanks. Cecelia Dusha -Original Message- From: Dusha, Cecelia Ms. WHS/ITMD Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 8:48 AM To: 'The IBM z/VM Operating System' Subject: SYSPROF Hello, I need to modify SYSPROF EXEC. On my vanilla zVM 5.1 system, I successfully implemented this change. On the test system I am building for the customers I am experiencing problems. The SYSPROF EXEC on MAINT 190 disk has the modification. I have resaved ALL of the cms segments (CMSFILES, SVM, CMSVMLIB, CMSPIPES, INSTSEG, HELPSEG, GUICSLIB, NLSUCENG, NLSGER, NLSKANJI, NLSAMENG, SCEE, SCEEX). I think the only one that needed to be resaved was INSTSEG, but being that didn't work - I saved them all. I even put a trace into the region where the modification exists to ensure it was passing through that code and that it was picking up my modified copy... But it isn't executing this portion of the code. The modification consists of 1 line preceding the ESTATE PROFILE EXEC statement, before it invokes the userid's PROFILE EXEC. As I said, these same steps worked on my vanilla zVM 5.1. These same steps are not functioning on the merged system for a customer test environment... Please advice. Thank you. Cecelia Dusha
Re: Browsing large (dump) files
Yes, FTP from *wts.unet.maine.edu* (my desktop) still works. *phsiii* may have version on one of his servers with add'l fixes; I have only a couple of minor fixes that aren't in the current download. SHOW (aka SHOWFILE) was written by Mike Johnson, when he was an undergraduate at The University of Maine. Anything in SHOW that you like was Mike's idea; anything you don't like was something I required Mike to build. ;-) Over the years, others have made contributions. I'd like to especially recognize Phil Smith for his work with SHOW, some of which is detailed in the archives of this mailing list. cheers, wayne Wayne T. Smith ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Systems Software Analyst Information Technology Services ~ Systems and Operations group University of Maine System ~ http://www.Maine.edu/ Dieltiens Geert wrote, in part, on 8/4/2006 4:34 AM: Colin, You can get SHOW from the University of Maine. This is from an old VM-list posting, and I believe it's still valid: It is available w/o charge via FTP FTP host: wts.unet.maine.edu user: anonymous pswd: your e-mail address, please Move to the SHOW directory and then download SHOW.VMARC with a binary transfer (about 1.3Megabytes). In CMS, then reformat the file for VMARC with: pipe show vmarc a|fblock 80 00| show vmarc a Bye, Geert. _ Geert Dieltiens Systeembeheerder Informatica J. Van Breda C° Tel.: + 32 3 217 50 16 *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Colin Allinson *Sent:* vrijdag 4 augustus 2006 8:37 *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: Browsing large (dump) files Richard, Can you point me to where I can find SHOW. I did not see it on the VMTOOLS disk (although I will have another look in case I missed it). Thanks in advance Colin Allinson *Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: We also use Dump Analyzer and have been satisfied with it. It is designed for processing TPF dumps. If it is too steeply priced, the freebie SHOW performs all of the required functions. In fact, it incorporates many more of the XEDIT capabilities. Regards, Richard Schuh ** *DISCLAIMER* This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This footnote also confirms that this email has been checked for the presence of viruses. *Informatica J.Van Breda Co NV BTW BE 0427 908 174*
Re: SYSPROF
I realized this reads as if this is a coding problem... SYSPROF EXEC does invoke the userid's PROFILE EXEC which is the next statement... It just does not execute the modification... Thanks. Cecelia Dusha -Original Message- From: Dusha, Cecelia Ms. WHS/ITMD Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 8:48 AM To: 'The IBM z/VM Operating System' Subject: SYSPROF Hello, I need to modify SYSPROF EXEC. On my vanilla zVM 5.1 system, I successfully implemented this change. On the test system I am building for the customers I am experiencing problems. The SYSPROF EXEC on MAINT 190 disk has the modification. I have resaved ALL of the cms segments (CMSFILES, SVM, CMSVMLIB, CMSPIPES, INSTSEG, HELPSEG, GUICSLIB, NLSUCENG, NLSGER, NLSKANJI, NLSAMENG, SCEE, SCEEX). I think the only one that needed to be resaved was INSTSEG, but being that didn't work - I saved them all. I even put a trace into the region where the modification exists to ensure it was passing through that code and that it was picking up my modified copy... But it isn't executing this portion of the code. The modification consists of 1 line preceding the ESTATE PROFILE EXEC statement, before it invokes the userid's PROFILE EXEC. As I said, these same steps worked on my vanilla zVM 5.1. These same steps are not functioning on the merged system for a customer test environment... Please advice. Thank you. Cecelia Dusha
Re: SYSPROF
On: Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 12:47:43PM -,Dusha, Cecelia Ms. WHS/ITMD Wrote: } Hello, } } I need to modify SYSPROF EXEC. } } On my vanilla zVM 5.1 system, I successfully implemented this change. On } the test system I am building for the customers I am experiencing problems. } } The SYSPROF EXEC on MAINT 190 disk has the modification. I have resaved ALL } of the cms segments (CMSFILES, SVM, CMSVMLIB, CMSPIPES, INSTSEG, HELPSEG, } GUICSLIB, NLSUCENG, NLSGER, NLSKANJI, NLSAMENG, SCEE, SCEEX). I think the } only one that needed to be resaved was INSTSEG, but being that didn't work - } I saved them all. I even put a trace into the region where the modification } exists to ensure it was passing through that code and that it was picking up } my modified copy... But it isn't executing this portion of the code. The } modification consists of 1 line preceding the ESTATE PROFILE EXEC statement, } before it invokes the userid's PROFILE EXEC. Did you resave the CMS NSS? SAMPNSS CMS CP DEFINE STOR 20M CP IPL 190 PARM SAVESYS CMS -- Rich Greenberg N Ft Myers, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 239 543 1353 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself my dogs only.VM'er since CP-67 Canines:Val, Red Shasta (RIP),Red, Zero Casey, Siberians Owner:Chinook-L Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L
Re: Secondary FTP Server Help
On Aug 4, 2006, at 9:47 AM, Alan Altmark wrote: If no one opens a PMR, it doesn't get fixed. (Stop me if I start repeating myself.) If no one calls it in, and the problem has been in existence for multiple releases, then the pressure to fix it in the next release is non-existent. It is frowned upon for us to open an APAR without a customer PMR. Fair enough. I am, of course, reluctant to open a PMR until I am pretty sure that it's the fault of the VM side o' things. And from what I can see...it may be the fault of the client not attempting SSL on the data. Right, and to initiate an SSL handshake on the data connection. Yeah, that's what: Thread Client_Socket_AddressServer_Socket_AddressConnection Cipher 1 192.168.253.18:50429 192.168.131.1:1075 1012 NONE Makes me suspicious of. Your trace indicates that your client is tried to use in-band FTP security techniques. Have you confirmed that it is performing an SSL handshake on the data connection? This is the bit that I'm suspecting. So, let's try a different tactic: what FTP clients are known to do implicit SSL the *right* way for the VM stack? If I can get one of *those* working, then it's clear that the problem is in my client, not in the SSL implementation or VM's handling of it. Adam
Updated Community VM Redbook outline posted
An updated version of the New Parents Guide outline has been posted to http://www.sinenomine.net/node/559. Changes: -- Acknowledge all the contributors by name and affiliation -- Include dump gathering -- include dirmaint info -- include glan/vswitch info -- include SFS (need more here, Dan) -- assign chapters to volunteers -- fix spelling typos (thanks, Shimon) -- small misc edits Comments to me and/or list. David Boyes Sine Nomine Associates
Re: Secondary FTP Server Help
Sign on my wall - If you don't call it in, it isn't broken. Our users get to read it often. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If no one opens a PMR, it doesn't get fixed. (Stop me if I start repeating myself.) If no one calls it in, and the problem has been in existence for multiple releases, then the pressure to fix it in the next release is non-existent. It is frowned upon for us to open an APAR without a customer PMR. -- Stephen Frazier Information Technology Unit Oklahoma Department of Corrections 3400 Martin Luther King Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298 Tel.: (405) 425-2549 Fax: (405) 425-2554 Pager: (405) 690-1828 email: stevef%doc.state.ok.us
Re: Updated Community VM Redbook outline posted
David, When going to that URL and opening the document directly (without saving it locally) AbobeReader 6.0 returns message: There was an error opening this document. The file cannot be found. I kept giving up until today, when I saved it to my hard drive from where it opened just fine. Thought you might want to know in case this is more widespread and preventing more discussion. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 08/04/2006 12:51 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Updated Community VM Redbook outline posted An updated version of the New Parents Guide outline has been posted to http://www.sinenomine.net/node/559. Changes: -- Acknowledge all the contributors by name and affiliation -- Include dump gathering -- include dirmaint info -- include glan/vswitch info -- include SFS (need more here, Dan) -- assign chapters to volunteers -- fix spelling typos (thanks, Shimon) -- small misc edits Comments to me and/or list. David Boyes Sine Nomine Associates The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited.
Re: Updated Community VM Redbook outline posted
I had the same issue, with IE 6, Acrobat Reader 6, and Windows XP. Dennis There are 10 kinds of people in the world; those that understand binary and those that don't. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 11:20 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Updated Community VM Redbook outline posted David, When going to that URL and opening the document directly (without saving it locally) AbobeReader 6.0 returns message: There was an error opening this document. The file cannot be found. I kept giving up until today, when I saved it to my hard drive from where it opened just fine. Thought you might want to know in case this is more widespread and preventing more discussion. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 08/04/2006 12:51 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Updated Community VM Redbook outline posted An updated version of the New Parents Guide outline has been posted to http://www.sinenomine.net/node/559. Changes: -- Acknowledge all the contributors by name and affiliation -- Include dump gathering -- include dirmaint info -- include glan/vswitch info -- include SFS (need more here, Dan) -- assign chapters to volunteers -- fix spelling typos (thanks, Shimon) -- small misc edits Comments to me and/or list. David Boyes Sine Nomine Associates The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited.
Re: the more things change, the more things stay the same
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#52 the more things change, the more things stay the same http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#53 the more things change, the more things stay the same the following article: How Secure Is That Device? As device software joins the larger world, security becomes ever more vital http://dso.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=191501076 Has statements that are almost exact quotes of some statements about virtualization made in the late 60s, nearly 40 years ago. the article is also related to the thread raised in this crypto topic drift http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#56 The very first text editor started with this article http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=190900759 the most recent in that thread http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm24.htm#52 Crypt to defend chip IP: snake oil or good idea? and even more thread drift related to the subject http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aadsm24.htm#53
Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS
R.S. wrote: Even some mainframe programs interpret it as data, with funny effects somtimes. For example SYSIN DD * for FTP program cannot contain the numbers. AFAIK some TCPIP config files as well. AFAIK the sequence numbers are completely useless nowadays. It was used for punched card sorter. Is there any other application ? they were also used for a long time as part of the cp67/cms multilevel source update infrastructure (later vm370/cms). since it was the pervasive internal platform for a long time ... even some number of mvs components would be start life with cms multilevel source update and then have to morph to smp for external release (there were some folktales of mvs components having periodic difficulty converting their cms source development and maintained environment to smp as part of customer ship). in vm/cms ... before the oco-wars, not only did source ship as standard, but maint. was done by shipping the source changes. recent thread that started out discussing card sorting but drifted into description of cms multi-level source update: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#45 sorting
Re: Source maintenance was Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS
Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote: I'm not sure when it came along, but by VM/SE there was a somewhat more sophisticated UPDATE facility[1] with aux files, control files and update files. I'd love to see a similar facility integrated with ISPF. [1] Not only could the XEDIT editor process them, but it could generate update files to reproduce the effects of an edit session. That's one of the CMS facilities I miss the most. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#19 Source maintenance was Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS the aux files, control files, update files scheme was what was created for the effort for building 370 virtual machine support into a cp67 kernel (running on 360/67). however, it was implemented all in EXEC with EXEC processing figuring out the control aux files and making interative calls to UPDATE command. this was picked up as part of the original vm370 release and update command was enhanced to directly process control, aux, and update files (in one pass) and spitting out the (temporary, working) source file for compile/assemble. a little later, editors were enhanced to directly support the control, aux, and update files as part of loading a source file for editing ... with option that all changes made in the edit session resulted in an update file (as opposed to a new complete source). this recent posting, in a different thread, has more detailed description of some of the operations ... as well as URLs to current CMS documentation (including an example update from an internal editor that predated xedit). http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#45 sorting a few other recent postings that happen to also mention xedit: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#34 Not Your Dad's Mainframe: Little Iron http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#43 MTS, Emacs, and... WYLBUR? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#55 The very first text editor
Re: Source maintenance was Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS
Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote: I guess most unix people use cvs, rcs, etc. nowadays, as someone posted. There used to be lots of use of diff and patch. Lacking sequence numbers, they worked either by line nunber or by using one or more lines of context to identify the line to be changed.
Re: Source maintenance was Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:18:17 GMT in alt.folklore.computers, Peter
Flass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote:
I guess most unix people use cvs, rcs, etc. nowadays, as someone posted.
There used to be lots of use of diff and patch. Lacking sequence
numbers, they worked either by line nunber or by using one or more lines
of context to identify the line to be changed.
There still is: cvs diff to generate the patches for distribution, and
patch to apply them to your local copy, before the change is committed
to cvs; no other option if you don't have remote access to the cvs
repository.
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Thanks. Take care, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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Re: Updated Community VM Redbook outline posted
Still horked. LOL - I like that word...nice ring to it. Bob Richards -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 3:58 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Updated Community VM Redbook outline posted Huh. Looks fine on Linux. I pulled it over to a Windows box and regenerated the file using only pure and genuine MS and Adobe products. Try the file ending in -windows and let me know if it's still horked. David Boyes Sine Nomine Associates I had the same issue, with IE 6, Acrobat Reader 6, and Windows XP. Dennis LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Seeing Beyond Money is a service mark of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL]
Re: Updated Community VM Redbook outline posted
David, FYI...Works fine for me on Windows with firefox. I tried it with IE and I get the error everyone else is seeing. Regards, Miguel Delapaz z/VM TCP/IP Development The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on 08/04/2006 12:57:55 PM: Huh. Looks fine on Linux. I pulled it over to a Windows box and regenerated the file using only pure and genuine MS and Adobe products. Try the file ending in -windows and let me know if it's still horked. David Boyes Sine Nomine Associates I had the same issue, with IE 6, Acrobat Reader 6, and Windows XP. Dennis
Re: Updated Community VM Redbook outline posted
Still horked. LOL - I like that word...nice ring to it. Hmph. The file is fine, and Firefox can retrieve it fine, just not IE. For now, download it to local disk (right click and save it) and open it from there. I'll track down what's going on later this evening, but you can still get the file to read on the plane.
Re: Updated Community VM Redbook outline posted
Quoting David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Still horked. LOL - I like that word...nice ring to it. Hmph. The file is fine, and Firefox can retrieve it fine, just not IE. For now, download it to local disk (right click and save it) and open it from there. I'll track down what's going on later this evening, but you can still get the file to read on the plane. It works fine for me on Windows 2000, IE 5.5, and Acroreader 6.0. I do not have reader set to open the pdf within IE...I prefer reader to upon standalone. I suspect that's what's causing the issues for folks. Leland
Re: Updated Community VM Redbook outline posted
It works fine for me on Windows 2000, IE 5.5, and Acroreader 6.0. I do not have reader set to open the pdf within IE...I prefer reader to upon standalone. I suspect that's what's causing the issues for folks. Leland The situation is not limited to Acrobat. The same happens with Word, Excel, Notepad and Wordpad that I have discovered. It seems to have appeared at some XP or IE update in the last 6 months. I quit complaining and just started saving everything. Just another burden to add to the heavy load. Bill Dodge email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (703)627-2455 If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there. Lewis Carroll If you don't know where you are, a map won't help Unknown
Re: Updated Community VM Redbook outline posted
Quoting Bill Dodge [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The situation is not limited to Acrobat. The same happens with Word, Excel, Notepad and Wordpad that I have discovered. It seems to have appeared at some XP or IE update in the last 6 months. I quit complaining and just started saving everything. Just another burden to add to the heavy load. Now that you mention it, I have that problem as home (XP, blah, blah) as well. I'd forgotten about that. But, I tend to do the save and read method anyway. Leland
Re: Secondary FTP Server Help
On: Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 10:35:47AM -0700,Adam Thornton Wrote: } This is the bit that I'm suspecting. So, let's try a different } tactic: what FTP clients are known to do implicit SSL the *right* way } for the VM stack? If I can get one of *those* working, then it's } clear that the problem is in my client, not in the SSL implementation } or VM's handling of it. Unless there is some quirk needed to get SSL on VM working properly and this app's author was aware of it and coded around it. -- Rich Greenberg N Ft Myers, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 239 543 1353 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself my dogs only.VM'er since CP-67 Canines:Val, Red Shasta (RIP),Red, Zero Casey, Siberians Owner:Chinook-L Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L
