Re: Controlling MONWRITE and the size of its 191 disk

2007-11-01 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 11/1/07, Hamilton, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The size of the file grows quickly, it about 1 hour the file consumes 90
 cyls….

You're right. Raw data files are huge. One option is to make the
interval larger, but this also very much limits the detail you can see
in your real time data. If you don't care about I/O performance, you
could disable that domain and save some more. You probably have
already disabled seeks and scheduler data.

An alternative product I know of uses a condensed format for
performance data to save disk space, disk I/O and processing time.
Just checked: and on a pretty serious system we need  10 cyls per
hour. This includes Linux process data of a few systems, and a lot of
devices. The data is still with 1 minute granularity to do analysis
and reporting.

Rob
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Velocity Software, Inc
http://velocitysoftware.com/


Controlling MONWRITE and the size of its 191 disk

2007-11-01 Thread Hamilton, Brian
Hello,

 

I'm using Performance toolkit and would like to use the batch interface.
I've set up the Performance toolkit batch commands however my problem
now is the MONITOR DATA file. 

 

The size of the file grows quickly, it about 1 hour the file consumes 90
cyls

 

My goal is to collect the data on a ongoing basis, at least for a few
days...

 

Any help on setting the size of MONWRITE's 191 disk and a method to keep
a few days worth of data would be appreciated.

 

For now I want to monitor CPU and Storage usage.

 

Thanks

 

Brian

 



Looking for a way to schedule tasks automatically in VM...years ago there use to be VMUTIL

2007-11-01 Thread Hamilton, Brian
Thanks

 

Brian



Re: Looking for a way to schedule tasks automatically in VM...years ago there use to be VMUTIL

2007-11-01 Thread Rich Smrcina

And there still is, check 'CMS Commands and Utilities'.

Hamilton, Brian wrote:

Thanks

 


Brian



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Re: Looking for a way to schedule tasks automatically in VM...years ago there use to be VMUTIL

2007-11-01 Thread Dave Jones

Hi, Brian.

Go here:
http://www.vsoft-software.com/downloads.html

and grab the SCHEDULE package, written by Simon Kharnas. It's a very 
good, imho, scheduling package.


Hamilton, Brian wrote:

Thanks

 


Brian




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Re: Looking for a way to schedule tasks automatically in VM...years ago there use to be VMUTIL

2007-11-01 Thread Kris Buelens
2007/11/1, Rich Smrcina [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 And there still is, check 'CMS Commands and Utilities'.


I somehow disagree: z/VM only includes WAKEUP, the heart of VMUTIL indeed;
but not the execs to drive it (DTR$WAIT  co)

Have a look at my RxServer package, it includes VMUTIL, compatible with the
old one, but more clever.
   http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?RXSERVER
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IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: Controlling MONWRITE and the size of its 191 disk

2007-11-01 Thread Hamilton, Brian
Thanks, can you let me know what settings are active for Monitor.

Q MONITOR should display this.

Thanks

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Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 10:22 AM
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Subject: Re: Controlling MONWRITE and the size of its 191 disk

On 11/1/07, Hamilton, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The size of the file grows quickly, it about 1 hour the file consumes
90
 cyls

You're right. Raw data files are huge. One option is to make the
interval larger, but this also very much limits the detail you can see
in your real time data. If you don't care about I/O performance, you
could disable that domain and save some more. You probably have
already disabled seeks and scheduler data.

An alternative product I know of uses a condensed format for
performance data to save disk space, disk I/O and processing time.
Just checked: and on a pretty serious system we need  10 cyls per
hour. This includes Linux process data of a few systems, and a lot of
devices. The data is still with 1 minute granularity to do analysis
and reporting.

Rob
-- 
Rob van der Heij
Velocity Software, Inc
http://velocitysoftware.com/


Re: Looking for a way to schedule tasks automatically in VM...years ago there use to be VMUTIL

2007-11-01 Thread Tracy Dean
And if you're looking for a supported product that's easy to use and has 

additional functions, take a look at Operations Manager for z/VM 
(http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/zvm/operations/index.html)

For the scheduling function, look at the DEFSCHD command on page 54 (in 

Chapter 6) of the Installation and Administration Guide available at:
http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/zvm/operations/library.html

Tracy Dean, IBM


LISTFILE of a sfs directory?

2007-11-01 Thread Ian S. Worthington
I'm trying to get a list of files in a sfs directory into a pipe.  LISTFILE
doesn't seem to have been updated to handle dirids and FILELIST can't give a
plain text version.

Is there in fact anyway to get a plain list without accessing a directory?


ian 
... 

Ian S. Worthington, MBCS.
 
http://isw.me.uk/ 

Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori, sed dulcius pro patria vivere, et
dulcissimus pro patria biber. Ergo, bibiamo pro salute patriae. 

 

Re: LISTFILE of a sfs directory?

2007-11-01 Thread Ian S. Worthington
Thanks Rob.

listdir does the job.

For others, syntax is:

LISTDIR dirid

must be first stage of a pipeline

(How come its never been documented? Just spent an hour faling to get push
file + filelist trying to behave before giving up in disgust)

i
-- Original Message --
Received: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:03:04 AM GMT
From: Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: LISTFILE of a sfs directory?

 On 11/2/07, Ian S. Worthington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Is there in fact anyway to get a plain list without accessing a
directory?
 
 If you only need file name and type, Q FILEATTR may help.
 And the listdir stage is there, but I believe it was never documented...
 
 Rob
 

Re: LISTFILE of a sfs directory?

2007-11-01 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 11/2/07, Ian S. Worthington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there in fact anyway to get a plain list without accessing a directory?

If you only need file name and type, Q FILEATTR may help.
And the listdir stage is there, but I believe it was never documented...

Rob


Re: LISTFILE of a sfs directory?

2007-11-01 Thread Schuh, Richard
Harry Williams posted SFSL REXX some years ago. It may be on the VM
Download site. If not, I have a copy that Harry probably would allow me
to post or send to you.

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ian S. Worthington
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:53 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: LISTFILE of a sfs directory?

I'm trying to get a list of files in a sfs directory into a pipe.
LISTFILE
doesn't seem to have been updated to handle dirids and FILELIST can't
give a
plain text version.

Is there in fact anyway to get a plain list without accessing a
directory?


ian 
... 

Ian S. Worthington, MBCS.
 
http://isw.me.uk/ 

Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori, sed dulcius pro patria vivere, et
dulcissimus pro patria biber. Ergo, bibiamo pro salute patriae. 

 


Re: z/TPF List Server

2007-11-01 Thread Ian S. Worthington
There's 3(!) contenders over at Yahoo Groups, plus a jobs group.  With the
exception of the later, which is heavily moderated to keep out the spammers,
the noise to signal ratio was too high when I looked at them a while back. 
The traffic is just too low, for the reasons already given.

There used to be a forum on Al's site, but following the closure of his
magazine his server died and as I'd been the only person to access it in
months he was reasonably disinclined to repair it :(

Given the move to z/tpf though I do think one is called for.  I can set it up
but not sure how to get the word out to people.

ian
...

-- Original Message --
Received: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:38:25 PM GMT
From: Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: z/TPF List Server

 That confirms what I was thinking. I have never heard mention of a TPF
 list, and I have been lurking on the fringes of the TPF (PARS, ACP,
 ACP/TPF) world since the mid 1970s. Personal contacts and the
 development lab seem to obviate the need for a list. If you look at the
 number of TPF shops, it is quite small and dwindling (with the pending
 merger of WorldSpan and Galileo) compared to the number of VM, MVS, VSE
 or Linux licenses. With the smaller universe, a list really is not
 needed. 
 
  
 
 Regards, 
 Richard Schuh 
 
  
 
 
 
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Rick Giz
 Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 4:03 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: z/TPF List Server
 
  
 
 I worked in that arena for a number of years and I am not aware of
 anyone ever hosting a list server for TPF.   Best bet has always been
 personal contacts established at conferences via the user group
 http://www.tpfug.org/ or of course there is also the IBM Lab.  
 
  
 
 Regards,
 
 Rick Giz
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 770-781-3206
 
 
 
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Raymond Noal
 Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 6:18 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: z/TPF List Server
 
  
 
 Dear Lists:
 
 Is there a list server for z/TPF?
 
 HITACHI
  DATA SYSTEMS 
 
 Raymond E. Noal
 Senior Technical Engineer
 Office: (408) 970 - 7978