Re: newbie question - convert to full pack minidisk

2008-04-26 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 10:25 PM, Quay, Jonathan (IHG)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We found a bug in CP minidisk cacheing that would lock up our system.  We 
 turn off MDC at the device level in the system configuration file for our 
 guest operating system minidisks using RDEV  TYPE DASD MDC OFF.

It would take real performance data to conclude on a bug.
It may just be tuning. We know that the defaults for the MDC arbiter
are such that many systems will favor MDC and thus cause more paging
than the MDC hit rate justifies. If the paging subsystem is not
properly configured, then that may keep folks waiting or even abend
the system. It's a very popular problem at new installations.
When the I/O is not eligable for MDC, the arbiter gets no opportunity
to favor that, and you avoid the paging.
I would prefer to properly configure MDC rather than disable it. And
make sure the paging subsystem is able to handle the load when
something else makes you page.

Rob
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Velocity Software GmbH
http://velocitysoftware.com/


Re: VTAM on an IFL?

2008-04-26 Thread william JANULIN
IBM should have been able to tell you that the instruction set is different on 
an IFL that on a standard LPAR than runs zOS, CICS, VTAM, etc.



--- On Fri, 4/25/08, Thomas Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Thomas Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: VTAM on an IFL?
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Date: Friday, April 25, 2008, 8:33 PM
 We requested the 'special quote' when we first
 looked at purchasing a 
 z890. It took quite a while to get a simple 'no' as
 the answer. We also 
 requested RSCS, ISPF and Callup. All were rejected.
 
 /Tom Kern
 
 Lee Stewart wrote:
  Hi...  Is anyone out there running VTAM under VM on an
 IFL?   If so, 
  what process did you use get it?
  
  Thanks,
  Lee


  

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Re: HLASM Version

2008-04-26 Thread Jim Elliott
 We have recently discovered that HLASM V1R5.0 is now *required*
 to assemble some of the components of z/VM 5.3 CP ... in
 particular some that have mods needed by our V/Seg product.

 I discovered this by inadvertently being accessed to HLASM
 V1R4.0 while attempting to run my automated maintenance
 procedure which includes re-assembling all the V/Seg mods ...
 several will no longer assemble with the older release.

Steven:

If you have only limited requirements for HLASM, you may wish to
check out Dignus' Systems/ASM which is HLASM 1.5 compatible.

http://www.dignus.com/dasm/

Jim


Re: HLASM Version

2008-04-26 Thread Imler, Steven J
Jim,

It's not my/CA's requirement, it's yours/IBM's ...

CA's V/Seg has mods to CSECTs such as HCPNSS, HCPNSI, HCPNSP, etc. for
AUDIT and name substitution (alias) functions.  It's the HCPxxx pieces
(not the VSPxxx pieces) that won't assemble.

Nonetheless ... thanks for the info.  I keep forgetting about the Dignus
assembler (even though I'm sure there are a couple of V/Seg customers
out there using it).

JR

JR (Steven) Imler
CA
Senior Software Engineer
Tel:  +1 703 708 3479
Fax:  +1 703 708 3267
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 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Elliott
 Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 10:59 AM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: HLASM Version
 
  We have recently discovered that HLASM V1R5.0 is now *required*
  to assemble some of the components of z/VM 5.3 CP ... in
  particular some that have mods needed by our V/Seg product.
 
  I discovered this by inadvertently being accessed to HLASM
  V1R4.0 while attempting to run my automated maintenance
  procedure which includes re-assembling all the V/Seg mods ...
  several will no longer assemble with the older release.
 
 Steven:
 
 If you have only limited requirements for HLASM, you may wish to
 check out Dignus' Systems/ASM which is HLASM 1.5 compatible.
 
 http://www.dignus.com/dasm/
 
 Jim
 
 


Re: VTAM on an IFL?

2008-04-26 Thread Mark Post
 On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at  9:58 AM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], william JANULIN
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 IBM should have been able to tell you that the instruction set is different 
 on an IFL that on a standard LPAR than runs zOS, CICS, VTAM, etc.

Yes, and no.  Compared to a CP, an IFL has one less instruction.  If you try 
to execute it though, you don't get a S0C1, you get a check stop.  So, it isn't 
for technical reasons that IBM rejected the request for the quotes.  Rather, it 
was for IBM business reasons.  Some of which may no longer hold sway.  I've 
been told of a number of people that have received special quotes for IBM 
products that aren't normally licensed on an IFL.


Mark Post


Codine a line in Prorfile TCPIP

2008-04-26 Thread Suleiman Shahin

Greetings Gurus,
 
I need to add a line in the Profile TCPIP file to point to port 2323 as secure. 
Here is the line and the question follows:

 2323   TCP INTCLIEN  SECURE The  title of the certificate  i want to use for 
SSL to -PLEASE the dear  AUDITORS  ;TELNET SERVER

 
The name of the certificate is about 60 characters and will force a 
continuation line.
So how do I make that line above understandable by the stack and make the stack 
accept the title of the certificate?
 
Thanks.
 
Suleiman Shahin
 
 
 
 
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Re: VTAM on an IFL?

2008-04-26 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Which brings up a different tangent

With the IBM z10, you can mix standard and IFL engines in the same LPAR.
So, if you put all your engines in the same LPAR, what does that do to 
licensing of 390 software that can also run on an IFL?

And then on the Linux side, would you then get charged for the 390 engines?  
i.e. DB2/UDB and Oracle

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

Lee Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi...  Is anyone out there running VTAM 
under VM on an IFL?   If so, 
what process did you use get it?

Thanks,
Lee
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Sirius Computer Solutions
Phone: (303) 798-2954
Fax:   (720) 228-2321
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web:   www.siriuscom.com



Re: Hipersockets - xposted to VM-L IBM-Main

2008-04-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 04/23/2008 at 10:41 EDT, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Does it make a difference that Hipersockets are real devices dedicated 
to the 
 z/OS guest and the OSA connection is a VSWITCH?  The OSA connection on 
the 
 VSWITCH works,  the real Hipersockets do not.

Sorry if I misunderstood.  If HostA and HostB are on the same HiperSocket 
chpid and cannot ping each other, then there is a routing problem (bad IP 
address, subnet, or subnet mask, or incorrect dynamic route).

As always, draw a picture and make sure the picture is legal.  I've seen 
people with syntactically perfect configuration files but a configuration 
that violates the Natural Laws of Networking.

Then display the routing table on both HostA and HostB to see if they are 
consistent.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: VTAM on an IFL?

2008-04-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 04/25/2008 at 08:33 EDT, Thomas Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 We requested the 'special quote' when we first looked at purchasing a
 z890. It took quite a while to get a simple 'no' as the answer. We also
 requested RSCS, ISPF and Callup. All were rejected.

Well, RSCS is a feature of z/VM now so no need for special bid, but, yes, 
RSCS was indeed special bid for IFLs previous to that. 

A special bid is also available for ISPF on IFLs for use by Tivoli 
zSecure, DFSMS, and RACF panels.  No other use allowed, such as for your 
own panels.

I don't have any information on VTAM.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: VTAM on an IFL?

2008-04-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Saturday, 04/26/2008 at 09:59 EDT, william JANULIN 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 IBM should have been able to tell you that the instruction set is 
different on 
 an IFL that on a standard LPAR than runs zOS, CICS, VTAM, etc.

Bill, IFLs are not an impediment to running VM/VTAM.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: VTAM on an IFL?

2008-04-26 Thread Thomas Kern
We wanted the full-featured RSCS 3.2 that we were (are) running to 
communicate with z/OS, so that important data (erep, monitor, 
accounting, backup jobs) could be transfered to z/OS via NJE for 
processing. We have shrunk enough that VM data just isn't worth anything 
anymore. None of the bosses has decided about paying for your 
full-featured feature now, so you may be out of that money too. Data 
just isn't supposed to go into or out of VM anyway.


/Tom Kern

Alan Altmark wrote:
On Friday, 04/25/2008 at 08:33 EDT, Thomas Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

We requested the 'special quote' when we first looked at purchasing a
z890. It took quite a while to get a simple 'no' as the answer. We also
requested RSCS, ISPF and Callup. All were rejected.


Well, RSCS is a feature of z/VM now so no need for special bid, but, yes, 
RSCS was indeed special bid for IFLs previous to that. 

A special bid is also available for ISPF on IFLs for use by Tivoli 
zSecure, DFSMS, and RACF panels.  No other use allowed, such as for your 
own panels.


I don't have any information on VTAM.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott



Re: Codine a line in Prorfile TCPIP

2008-04-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Saturday, 04/26/2008 at 09:33 EDT, Suleiman Shahin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greetings Gurus,
  
 I need to add a line in the Profile TCPIP file to point to port 2323 as 
secure. 
 Here is the line and the question follows:
 
  2323   TCP INTCLIEN  SECURE The  title of the certificate  i want to 
use for 
 SSL to -PLEASE the dear  AUDITORS  ;TELNET SERVER
 
  
 The name of the certificate is about 60 characters and will force a 
 continuation line.
 So how do I make that line above understandable by the stack and make 
the stack 
 accept the title of the certificate?

You don't.  The stack doesn't use the certificate name (title) as input. 
It uses the certificate *label* (1-8 characters).

The auditor will have to ask you to display the name of the certificate 
associated with the label to see if they are pleased or not.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott