Re: VMRMSVM - z/VM Resource Manager

2009-11-03 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Ok, thanks Bill. My goal is to use VMRM to control the resource usage
with goals similar to what I do on z/OS with WLM. 

Thank You,
 
Terry Martin
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Terry,

I am not using SFS or DIRMAINT here - 
I think that IBM VM Director is or was part of those products Tracy Dean

mentioned. 

I started up VMRMSVM to use CMM and the config file is on the 191 mdisk 
and I log on to make changes.
I also log on to maint and update the USER DIRECT on the 2cc mdisk and 
then use DIRECTXA 

I got help setting up VMRMSVM from that IBM web site at the link I sent 
you and a presentation from Chris Casey of IBM . 
 
good luck

Bill Munson 
Sr. z/VM Systems Programmer 
Brown Brothers Harriman  CO.
525 Washington Blvd. 
Jersey City, NJ 07310 
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HI Bill,

So the CONFIG file for VMRMSVM does not need to be on SFS even if you
want the ability to change the configuration dynamically?

BTW, I am not using DIRMAINT or anything like that to administer the
Directory I am using DIRECTXA is that considered IBM VM DIRECTOR? 

Thank You,
 
Terry Martin
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Work - 410 786-0386
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Terry,

Nobody has said this but VMRMSVM does not need SFS to run like DFSMS
does. 

But there is some documentation that says to use SFS if you are using
IBM 
VM Director. 
and the files needed are on Maint's 193 mdisk

http://www.vm.ibm.com/sysman/vmrm/vmrmcmm.html

Bill Munson 
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525 Washington Blvd. 
Jersey City, NJ 07310 
201-418-7588

President MVMUA
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Thanks Ed. I am not running SFS and I understand that VMRM requires the 
config file to be under SFS control is this correct?  Also the only
thing 
that came on the A disk for the VMRMSVM user was the PROFILE EXEC. I
read 
that there should be a sample config file as well as some other files on

the A disk also, is there another place theses file can be found? 
 
Thank You,
 
Terry Martin
Lockheed Martin - Information Technology
z/OS  z/VM Systems - Performance and Tuning
Cell - 443 632-4191
Work - 410 786-0386
terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov
 
WFH Tuesdays and Fridays

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On 
Behalf Of Ed Neidhardt
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 12:19 PM
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Terry,
I've been using it for around 10 months now at one of my customers and
it 
appears to be doing the job. Their environment experiences huge CPU
spikes 
during it's month end processing (4-6 days of 95-100%, where normally
CPU 
is around 40%).  They are using Focus to produce a large number of
reports 
from databases with several million records in each. 
 
Before trying VMRMSVM the operators where busy adjusting relative shares

during month end to keep the VSE nightly batch cycle from running over, 
while also trying to keep the Focus machines processing to meet their 
deadline.  We tried various combinations of relative and absolute
shares, 
but were never able to get the right mix to meet everyone's deadlines.
The 
problems were: month end started on different days of the week (each day

has it's unique processing), the amount of data being processed varied
by 
hundred's of thousands records, and the mix of Focus runs would change 
(quarter end, year end, etc) 
 
Getting a larger z9 or using capacity on demand (on a monthly basis)
were 
too costly to do, especially with the much lower utilization during the 
rest of the month.
 
Using VMRMSVM to 

Re: VMRMSVM - z/VM Resource Manager

2009-11-03 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Thanks yeah I saw that. Thanks Alan!

Thank You,
 
Terry Martin
Lockheed Martin - Information Technology
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Work - 410 786-0386
terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov
 
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On Monday, 11/02/2009 at 02:15 EST, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) 
terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov wrote:
 BTW, I am not using DIRMAINT or anything like that to administer the
 Directory I am using DIRECTXA is that considered IBM VM DIRECTOR?

No, DIRECTXA and IBM Systems Director (IBM Director) are two different

things.  IBM Director is a GUI-based multiplatform management
application 
that lives outside of z/VM, but can communicate with it to perform some 
basic systems programming tasks.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: Bill Munson's Email @ Brown Brothers

2009-11-03 Thread Howard Rifkind




Hi Bill,

 

Thanks for inviting me to the last MVMUA meeting.  I really enjoyed being there.

 

Although I still don’t have anything, going to these meetings
helps me keep up with what’s going on in the z/VM world.  This is tough, as not 
actually working with
z/VM, as time goes by your skills become less relevant and therefore less
likely an employer will pick you up.

 

Attached is my resume in MS/Word format.

 

Should you hear of anything or know of anyone with whom you
might have an in, please feel free to send that person my resume.  It certainly 
would be appreciated.

 

Boy did I get sand bagged by Sirius and TDA.

 

Well that’s life. 
Thanks again.



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Howard, 
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Munson 
 
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Misplaced Bill's email address.

Can some one send it over to me off line .

Thanks.



  

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Re: brain freeze

2009-11-03 Thread August Carideo
to  sys op you mean ?
set sysoper operator



   
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OPERATOR  IDlogged off. VM messages going to another USERID. I managed to
re-direct the to a VSE guest using CONSOLE 009 3215 T OPERATOR. I'm missing
something in the DOC ? Whats a quick way to get them back to  OPERATOR


Re: brain freeze

2009-11-03 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
Logon to OPERATOR
and do  CP SET SYSOPER *

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Re: brain freeze

2009-11-03 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
Did you mean:  SET SECUSER (vse) OPERATOR

 

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Re: FW: logoff/force pending due to incomplete logon here

2009-11-03 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 11/03/2009 at 04:45 EST, Bob Levad ble...@winnebagoind.com 
wrote:
 I don't know if others have seen this behaviour, but I've seen 
discussion of
 logoff/force pending recently and found nothing similar in a quick 
internet
 search.

If you LOGOFF or are FORCEd while you are in the middle of LOGON HERE, you 
should get 
HCPLGA6051E Restart the logon procedure because reconnect processing 
cannot be done

Any time you get LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING and the condition doesn't clear 
itself in a reasonable[1] amount of time you should get a SNAPDUMP or 
restart dump and open a PMR.

If CP isn't going to give you a hint as to what to do to fix the problem 
(other than IPL), then CP needs to not get into that state in the first 
place.  Hence the need to open a PMR.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

[1] The longest you have to wait for an I/O to complete or get an error is 
twice the missing interrupt handler time for the device.  INDICATE I/O 
will tell you if the user is waiting on I/O.  Do a QUERY MITIME on any 
device you see the user waiting on.  Take the longest MITIME and double 
it.  For DASD and tape, the MITIME value comes from the device itself. 
Note that for 2nd level systems, the missing interrupt handler is turned 
OFF by default!


Re: brain freeze

2009-11-03 Thread Mike Walter
To bullet-proof yourself for next time, it might be wise to consider 
changing the OPERATOR's (or wherever your want OPERATOR msgs sent) 
PROFILE EXEC to contain the line:
'CP SET SYSOPER *'

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
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DS8100 as SCSI mode

2009-11-03 Thread Tony Bergenza
Hi all,
If someone share infomation about the procedure to configure DS8100 in SCSI
mode with ZVM 5.4 to be used by Suse Z/Linux.
Thanks  Regards
Tony


FW: logoff/force pending due to incomplete logon here

2009-11-03 Thread Bob Levad
 
I don't know if others have seen this behaviour, but I've seen discussion of
logoff/force pending recently and found nothing similar in a quick internet
search.
 
I had the HCP361E message for a user and incidentally found that I had a
logical session that I had started to logon here with, but hadn't actually
typed the password.
 
Some time after I had started the session transfer, the user had been logged
off, and was apparently not able to complete the logoff because of the
incomplete logon attempt.
 
If I typed the password in on the logon here password prompt area, the
logon fails with logoff/force pending, and clears the status.
 
If I just hit enter at the password prompt or type something invalid, the
login fails and also clears the status.
 
If I just let the screen sit there, the logoff/force pending stays.
 
I haven't tried resetting the LDEV on the off chance that the system won't
like it much.  
 
I may try it second level, but not this week.
 
(zVM 5.4.0 Service level 0802)

Is there a query command that might show a terminal that is halfway through
a logon?
 
Bob

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brain freeze

2009-11-03 Thread l character
OPERATOR  IDlogged off. VM messages going to another USERID. I managed to 
re-direct the to a VSE guest using CONSOLE 009 3215 T OPERATOR. I'm missing 
something in the DOC ? Whats a quick way to get them back to  OPERATOR