Re: RACF SETROPTS MINCHANGE
Ok, it was friday and a time for some lighthearted propeller head humor. Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/14/2010 02:58 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: RACF SETROPTS MINCHANGE On Friday, 11/12/2010 at 07:47 EST, George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote: It is because VM is a virtual system. You need to ask the auditor if he knows the difference between real and virtual If you see it and it's there, it's real. If you don't see it and it's there it's transparent. If you see it and it's not there, it is virtual. Eh? The reason SETROPTS MINCHANGE isn't there is because RACF/VM and RACF/MVS are two different offerings. Things added to MVS are not necessarily added to VM, and vice versa. And I don't think anyone has submitted a RACF/VM requirement to add it. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196
One other thing Doug didn't mention: creating/maintaining the standalone-dump program.
Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196
Firstly, please note that the information that I provided is extracted from the z/VM General Information manual. I cannot take credit for it. This is important so that all customers can look at the General Information manual for their level of z/VM to find the appropriate list. The list does change periodically from release to release.. Secondly, you do not need HLASM to create/maintain the standalone dump program. HCPSADMP checks for HLASM, HASM, and ASSEMBLE (FASM). It can use any of them. pdb (Doug Breneman) z/VM System Test IBM Endicott, NY From: David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 11/15/2010 10:28 AM Subject:Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU One other thing Doug didn’t mention: creating/maintaining the standalone-dump program.
Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196
[please, let's snip those posts to reasonable size, eh?] On Monday, 11/15/2010 at 09:41 EST, George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote: The last itme in Doug's list is precisely the point. HLASM *IS* needed to create a Production IODF from a source IOCP on z/VM. I think I see the point of confusion. IOCP does not use HLASM. However, if you want to take an existing IOCP deck and migrate to *HCD* (CBDSMIGR), then you will need HLASM, as it is used *by HCD* to create an initial IODF. Once migrated, or if you build your configuration manually in HCD, you don't need HLASM. That said, I recommend that you purchase a high-level assembler from IBM or Dignus. You never need one until it's Really Really Important. And you won't discover that until you have an emergency. But then it is too late. You also have to realize that required can be a misleading term. Example: ISPF is technically not *required* to run zSecure. Yeah, right. You *could* run that way, but who *would*? Penny wise, pound foolish. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 23:40:17 -0700, Mark Post mp...@novell.com wrote: Including, up until a year or two ago, IBM's z/VM developers. Go figure . z/VM Development has never used the Dignus assembler. Alan Altmark IBM
Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196
z/VM Development has never used the Dignus assembler. TPF does, though.
Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196
At least the z/TPF folks use it. If you are stuck with TPF 4.1 or earlier, you still need an assembler that runs under CMS. If Dignus has been ported to CMS, then it may be sufficient. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:03 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 z/VM Development has never used the Dignus assembler. TPF does, though.
Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196
On Monday, 11/15/2010 at 12:14 EST, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: At least the z/TPF folks use it. If you are stuck with TPF 4.1 or earlier, you still need an assembler that runs under CMS. If Dignus has been ported to CMS, then it may be sufficient. The web page says Available as a native assembler on CMS, OS/390, z/OS, Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196
z/VM Development has never used the Dignus assembler. TPF does, though. This is only sort of true. All official lab work is done using HLASM on Linux. There are some of us who have taken it upon ourselves to use it on a personal basis, but there is no TPF lab support for such use, either for internal use or in customer environments. Statements of satisfaction with the Dignus assembler, from myself or any other TPF developer, are strictly personal opinions and are not to be taken as implying support by either TPF or IBM. - mb Mark Boonie z/TPF Development
Re: creating second maint user
No, mainly because MAINT has many R/W minidisks that can't be shared. You can use any user for the formatting. What do you intend for the setup? Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:49 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: creating second maint user We have a bunch of servers to set up and I would like to share the MAINT id to several machines for setup and formatting. Can I just copy the MAINT directory entry in to say MAINT1, MAINT2, etc for short term? David M. Dean Information Systems BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
Re: creating second maint user
Do you have DIRMAINT? If so, look at the BATCH parameter, it can be very useful when do massive changes. Thank you, Scott From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:49 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: creating second maint user We have a bunch of servers to set up and I would like to share the MAINT id to several machines for setup and formatting. Can I just copy the MAINT directory entry in to say MAINT1, MAINT2, etc for short term? David M. Dean Information Systems BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or Protected Health Information, within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you.
