Re: How Submit a JOB from Z/VM to Z/OS using RSCS ?

2011-01-04 Thread Shedlock, George
Speaking of submitting jobs, does anyone remember of have a copy of the old 
SUB EXEC that was floating around the network some years back? In addition to 
doing the requisite SPOOL/TAG/PUNCH commands, it also provided for parameter 
substitution, includes and nested includes.

I seem to have misplaced my copy during one of my moves.

George Shedlock Jr
AEGON Information Technology
AEGON USA
502-560-3541


Sort Fields Question

2011-01-04 Thread Sergio Lima

Hello List,
 
We have a CMS file, with some fields.
One of this field is a date, in the DD/MM/YY format.
We also have 200 records medium by day.
Another field, is a numeric percentage that I need get the top 50 for each day.
So, We think execute a sort under a REXX EXEC , like this :
 
trace r
queue 1 8 63 65  
sort cpux9 batchw a cpux9 batd a 
exit   
 
But, looking on HELP of sort command can't see the descending option.
 
We think this, because after the sort, will write another REXX that read only 
the first 50 records , and write another output file.
 
Someone already have used the sort with descending order, or know if have 
another way to do this?
 
Thanks very much,
 
Sergio Lima Costa
Sao Paulo - Brazil

SFS question

2011-01-04 Thread Gentry, Stephen
How can I tell what users and/or what files are in a storage group?  I'd
prefer to know users but can trace it back if I know what files.

Thanks,

Steve



Re: SFS question

2011-01-04 Thread Dave Jones
Steve, grab Kris Buelen's SFSULIST tool from the VM download page; it
does exactly what you are looking for.

Have a good one.

On 01/04/2011 08:13 AM, Gentry, Stephen wrote:
 How can I tell what users and/or what files are in a storage group?  I'd
 prefer to know users but can trace it back if I know what files.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Steve
 
 

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V/Soft Software
www.vsoft-software.com
Houston, TX
281.578.7544


Re: Sort Fields Question

2011-01-04 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
PIPEs would be much easier.

   PIPE (endchar ?),

 input file x,

|  SORT positions,

| output file y

 

 

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.

 

 



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Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 8:10 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Sort Fields Question

 

Hello List,
 
We have a CMS file, with some fields.
One of this field is a date, in the DD/MM/YY format.
We also have 200 records medium by day.
Another field, is a numeric percentage that I need get the top 50 for
each day.
So, We think execute a sort under a REXX EXEC , like this :
 
trace r
queue 1 8 63 65  
sort cpux9 batchw a cpux9 batd a 
exit   
 
But, looking on HELP of sort command can't see the descending option.
 
We think this, because after the sort, will write another REXX that read
only the first 50 records , and write another output file.
 
Someone already have used the sort with descending order, or know if
have another way to do this?
 
Thanks very much,
 
Sergio Lima Costa
Sao Paulo - Brazil


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Re: SFS question

2011-01-04 Thread Gentry, Stephen
Thanks Dave.  I was sure there was something out there that would
provide this info.  I had SFSULIST already downloaded just didn't know
that's what it would/could do.
Steve

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Subject: Re: SFS question

Steve, grab Kris Buelen's SFSULIST tool from the VM download page; it
does exactly what you are looking for.

Have a good one.

On 01/04/2011 08:13 AM, Gentry, Stephen wrote:
 How can I tell what users and/or what files are in a storage group?
I'd
 prefer to know users but can trace it back if I know what files.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Steve
 
 

-- 
Dave Jones
V/Soft Software
www.vsoft-software.com
Houston, TX
281.578.7544


Re: Sort Fields Question

2011-01-04 Thread Fran Hensler
Sergio -
 
Take a look at HELP PIPE SORT.
 
'PIPE  cpux9 batchw a | sort 1-8 descending 63-65 |  cpux9 batd a'
 
/Fran Hensler at Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania USA for 47 years
mailto:f...@zvm.sru.edu  http://zvm.sru.edu/~fjh  +1.724.738.2153
  Yes, Virginia, there is a Slippery Rock
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On Tue, 4 Jan 2011 17:10:16 +0300 Sergio Lima said:

Hello List,

We have a CMS file, with some fields.
One of this field is a date, in the DD/MM/YY format.
We also have 200 records medium by day.
Another field, is a numeric percentage that I need get the top 50 for each day.
So, We think execute a sort under a REXX EXEC , like this :

trace r
queue 1 8 63 65
sort cpux9 batchw a cpux9 batd a 
exit

But, looking on HELP of sort command can't see the descending option.

We think this, because after the sort, will write another REXX that read only
the first 50 records , and write another output file.

Someone already have used the sort with descending order, or know if have
another way to do this?

Thanks very much,

Sergio Lima Costa
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Re: Sort Fields Question

2011-01-04 Thread Sergio Lima

Hello Frank, and Fran.
 
PIPE run well.
 

pipe  cpux9 batchw a | sort 1-8 descending 63-65 |  cpux9 batd a
 
Thanks very much for your help.
 
Regards,
 
Sergio
 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 09:37:44 -0500
 From: f...@zvm.sru.edu
 Subject: Re: Sort Fields Question
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 
 Sergio -
 
 Take a look at HELP PIPE SORT.
 
 'PIPE  cpux9 batchw a | sort 1-8 descending 63-65 |  cpux9 batd a'
 
 /Fran Hensler at Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania USA for 47 years
 mailto:f...@zvm.sru.edu http://zvm.sru.edu/~fjh +1.724.738.2153
 Yes, Virginia, there is a Slippery Rock
 --
 On Tue, 4 Jan 2011 17:10:16 +0300 Sergio Lima said:
 
 Hello List,
 
 We have a CMS file, with some fields.
 One of this field is a date, in the DD/MM/YY format.
 We also have 200 records medium by day.
 Another field, is a numeric percentage that I need get the top 50 for each 
 day.
 So, We think execute a sort under a REXX EXEC , like this :
 
 trace r
 queue 1 8 63 65
 sort cpux9 batchw a cpux9 batd a 
 exit
 
 But, looking on HELP of sort command can't see the descending option.
 
 We think this, because after the sort, will write another REXX that read only
 the first 50 records , and write another output file.
 
 Someone already have used the sort with descending order, or know if have
 another way to do this?
 
 Thanks very much,
 
 Sergio Lima Costa
 Sao Paulo - Brazil
  

Re: Sort Fields Question

2011-01-04 Thread Kris Buelens
And, as he only want the first 50, the pipe can be easily extended:
 'PIPE  cpux9 batchw a | sort 1-8 descending 63-65 | take 50 |  cpux9
bat50 a'
What then?  Process in REXX?  If so, change the pipe to write into a stem
 'PIPE  cpux9 batchw a | sort 1-8 descending 63-65 | take 50 | stem REC.'
 do i=1 to rec.0


To learn something about CMS Pipelines, consider our free, self study,
course:
   http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?TCVM2
Once you get away with PIPE, you can gain lots of time by not having to code
many REXX statements as they can be replaced by some PIPE stages.


2011/1/4 Fran Hensler f...@zvm.sru.edu

 Sergio -

 Take a look at HELP PIPE SORT.

 'PIPE  cpux9 batchw a | sort 1-8 descending 63-65 |  cpux9 batd a'

 /Fran Hensler at Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania USA for 47 years
mailto:f...@zvm.sru.edu  
 http://zvm.sru.edu/~fjhhttp://zvm.sru.edu/%7Efjh +1.724.738.2153
  Yes, Virginia, there is a Slippery Rock
 --
 On Tue, 4 Jan 2011 17:10:16 +0300 Sergio Lima said:
 
 Hello List,
 
 We have a CMS file, with some fields.
 One of this field is a date, in the DD/MM/YY format.
 We also have 200 records medium by day.
 Another field, is a numeric percentage that I need get the top 50 for each
 day.
 So, We think execute a sort under a REXX EXEC , like this :
 
 trace r
 queue 1 8 63 65
 sort cpux9 batchw a cpux9 batd a 
 exit
 
 But, looking on HELP of sort command can't see the descending option.
 
 We think this, because after the sort, will write another REXX that read
 only
 the first 50 records , and write another output file.
 
 Someone already have used the sort with descending order, or know if have
 another way to do this?
 
 Thanks very much,
 
 Sergio Lima Costa
 Sao Paulo - Brazil




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IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: SFS question

2011-01-04 Thread Kris Buelens
SFSULIST is an interactive tool.  If you need this information in a REXX
exec: Q LIMITS is your friend.  If you also need to know the files: after Q
LIMITS, you use LISTDIR; ACCESS and LISTFILE...

2011/1/4 Gentry, Stephen stephen.gen...@lafayettelife.com

 Thanks Dave.  I was sure there was something out there that would
 provide this info.  I had SFSULIST already downloaded just didn't know
 that's what it would/could do.
 Steve

 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
 Behalf Of Dave Jones
 Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:20 AM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: SFS question

 Steve, grab Kris Buelen's SFSULIST tool from the VM download page; it
 does exactly what you are looking for.

 Have a good one.

 On 01/04/2011 08:13 AM, Gentry, Stephen wrote:
  How can I tell what users and/or what files are in a storage group?
 I'd
  prefer to know users but can trace it back if I know what files.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Steve
 
 

 --
 Dave Jones
 V/Soft Software
 www.vsoft-software.com
 Houston, TX
 281.578.7544




-- 
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IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: How Submit a JOB from Z/VM to Z/OS using RSCS ?

2011-01-04 Thread Kris Buelens
I'll send my old submit stuff, dated from a former life where I had many
VM/VSE customers

2011/1/4 Shedlock, George gshedl...@aegonusa.com

 Speaking of submitting jobs, does anyone remember of have a copy of the old
 “SUB EXEC” that was floating around the network some years back? In addition
 to doing the requisite SPOOL/TAG/PUNCH commands, it also provided for
 parameter substitution, includes and nested includes.



 I seem to have misplaced my copy during one of my moves.



 *George Shedlock Jr*

 *AEGON Information Technology*

 *AEGON USA*

 *502-560-3541*




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Re: SFS question

2011-01-04 Thread Dave Jones
Steve, note that your user id must be enrolled in the file pool as an
administrator for SFSULIST to return all of the menaingful results.

DJ

On 01/04/2011 08:25 AM, Gentry, Stephen wrote:
 Thanks Dave.  I was sure there was something out there that would
 provide this info.  I had SFSULIST already downloaded just didn't know
 that's what it would/could do.
 Steve
 
 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
 Behalf Of Dave Jones
 Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:20 AM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: SFS question
 
 Steve, grab Kris Buelen's SFSULIST tool from the VM download page; it
 does exactly what you are looking for.
 
 Have a good one.
 
 On 01/04/2011 08:13 AM, Gentry, Stephen wrote:
 How can I tell what users and/or what files are in a storage group?
 I'd
 prefer to know users but can trace it back if I know what files.

 Thanks,

 Steve


 

-- 
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V/Soft Software
www.vsoft-software.com
Houston, TX
281.578.7544


Re: VTAM logmodes

2011-01-04 Thread Malcolm Beattie
(Subject line changed to reflect topic drift)

Alan Altmark writes:
 As others have said, the problem is in the logmode associated with the 
 non-SNA 3270 LU.  For some reason, VTAM sysprogs keep using ancient 
 logmodes for reasons they can't actually articulate except that's the way 
 we've always done it.   For almost a quarter century, the correct logmode 
 for any 3270 has been D4A3290 (local SNA) or D4B3290 (non-SNA).

I was unable to get these logmode names to work and they don't appear
in the z/OS 1.9 Comms Server SNA Resource Definition Reference Manual.

 The 3290 logmodes are simple, removing all screen size and capability 
 information from the PSERVIC field, and causing VTAM to query the terminal 
 to determine its configuration and capabilities.

However, the manual does document logmodes D4A32XX3 and D4B32XX3 in
the Default logon mode table (ISTINCLM) in Appendix A and their
behaviour closely matches your description:

 TITLE ’D4A32XX3’
**
*  3274 MODEL 1A (LOCAL SNA) *
*  PRIMARY SCREEN 24 X 80 (1920) *
*  ALTERNATE SCREEN TO BE DETERMINED BY APPLICATION  *

with PSERVIC being X’02800300’. The corresponding
D4B32XX3 for non-SNA seems right too (same PSERVIC except without
that 2 bit). I tried it out on my zPDT z/OS 1.9 system and it
worked fine...once I'd stripped out the helpful DemoPKG VTAM config
which didn't only have a DLOGMOD=S32793 in the VTAM entry for the
terminal devices but also had an overriding default in its USSTAB
which made the TSO command silently include a LOGMODE(S32793) as well.

Since the commands to change all this dynamically are a bit fiddly
to non-VTAM experts (all in the Comms Server SNA Ops manual) and one
weak link in the chain means the dynamic sizing doesn't work, I
guess it's simply a case of many people not quite getting 100% of the
end-to-end config to work and then giving up and waiting a few years
or so before seeing if it's got any easier.

--Malcolm

-- 
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Mainframe Systems and Software Business, Europe
IBM UK


Re: Sort Fields Question

2011-01-04 Thread Ron Schmiedge
Sergio,

Others have already pointed you at PIPE, I use it myself for
descending sorts. There is no descending option in CMS SORT. There is
a descending option in the XEDIT SORT command.

I don't know if your data is going to span across months, but sorting
the date formatted as DD/MM/YY using columns 1-8 will sort the first
of every month together, and you will not be in date order anymore.

For example, if your file contains dates from January and February,
and you sort on 1-8, you'll see this results:

01/01/11
01/02/11
02/01/11
02/02/11
03/01/11
03/02/11

and so on...

Ron

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Sergio Lima sergiovm...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello List,

 We have a CMS file, with some fields.
 One of this field is a date, in the DD/MM/YY format.
 We also have 200 records medium by day.
 Another field, is a numeric percentage that I need get the top 50 for each
 day.
 So, We think execute a sort under a REXX EXEC , like this :

 trace r
 queue 1 8 63 65
 sort cpux9 batchw a cpux9 batd a 
 exit

 But, looking on HELP of sort command can't see the descending option.

 We think this, because after the sort, will write another REXX that read
 only the first 50 records , and write another output file.

 Someone already have used the sort with descending order, or know if have
 another way to do this?

 Thanks very much,

 Sergio Lima Costa
 Sao Paulo - Brazil



Re: Assembler Question

2011-01-04 Thread Sergio Lima

Hello John.
 
Very creative.
 
I need learn much more.
 
Thanks very much
 
Regards,
 
Sergio
 


Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 13:36:27 -0600
From: john.mck...@healthmarkets.com
Subject: Re: Assembler Question
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU





I guess this is to stop the no-so-smart. The first thing that comes to mind is 
to make some slight changes to cause confusion:
 
 
You have:
 
 MVC   MAQUINA+0(1),=XL1'E5'
 MVC   MAQUINA+1(1),=XL1'E2'
 MVC   MAQUINA+2(1),=XL1'C5'
 MVC   MAQUINA+3(1),=XL1'D3'
 MVC   MAQUINA+4(1),=XL1'C1'
 MVC   MAQUINA+5(1),=XL1'C2'
 
Simple change:
 
 MVC   MAQUINA+3(1),=XL1'D3'
 MVC   MAQUINA+4(1),=XL1'C1'
 MVC   MAQUINA+5(1),=XL1'C2'
 MVC   MAQUINA+0(1),=XL1'E5'
 MVC   MAQUINA+1(1),=XL1'E5'
 MVC   MAQUINA+2(1),=XL1'E2'
 
What shows up in the module would be: LABVSE. Looks reasonable, doesn't it? 
Now, to really mess up their minds: create a guest machine with that name. 
Monitor who actually sends something to it. Then beat them with an appropriate 
stick for being an idiot.
 
If you want to simply disguise the name, then I'd likely do something simple, 
such as:
 

 MVC   MAQUINA+0(1),=XL1'05'
 MVC   MAQUINA+1(1),=XL1'12'
 MVC   MAQUINA+2(1),=XL1'25'
 MVC   MAQUINA+3(1),=XL1'33'
 MVC   MAQUINA+4(1),=XL1'41'
 MVC   MAQUINA+5(1),=XL1'52'
 L 0,MAQUINA
 AL0,=X'E0D0A0A0'
 ICM   0,B'0101',MAQUINA+4
 AL0,=X'10802070'
 STCM  0,B'0101',MAQUINA+4
 
This last is a bit nasty to the casual observer. Especially the use of the ICM 
to make the bytes in the second part of the name not be next to each other. And 
putting in the unused data in the AL instruction which don't matter and which 
does nothing in particular, will really mess up someone's mind
 
But a smarty could still disassemble the module and do the instructions by hand 
to try to figure out what is going on. Either kill them or hire them as a 
forensic technician.
 




 
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Systems Engineer IV
IT
 
Administrative Services Group
 
HealthMarkets®
 
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Of Sergio Lima
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 12:57 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Assembler Question


Hello List,
 
We wrote a sample ASSEMBLER Program  here under CMS, that will submit a JOB to 
VSE Machine, using the CP SPOOL PUNCH command.
Sorry, if you understand that here is not the good place to put this question.
The people ask to me, if is possible the name of CMS MACHINE not appear on the 
MODULE.
 
The program is this :
 
PUNCHA   CSECT  
 USING PUNCHA,3 
 USING FSCBD,4  
 PRINT GEN  
 LR3,15 
 ST14,SAVE  
*   
 LA4,FSCB1  
 MVC   FILENAME(8),8(1) 
 MVC   FILETYPE(8),16(1)
 MVC   FILEMODE(8),24(1)
*   
 MVC   FSCBFN,FILENAME  
 MVC   FSCBFT,FILETYPE  
 MVC   FSCBFM,FILEMODE  
*   
 MVC   MAQUINA+0(1),=XL1'E5'
 MVC   MAQUINA+1(1),=XL1'E2'
 MVC   MAQUINA+2(1),=XL1'C5'
 MVC   MAQUINA+3(1),=XL1'D3'
 MVC   MAQUINA+4(1),=XL1'C1'
 MVC   MAQUINA+5(1),=XL1'C2'
*   
 WRTERMFILENAME,8   
 WRTERMFILETYPE,8   
 WRTERMFILEMODE,2   
 WRTERMMAQUINA,8
*   
 SR1,1  
 LA1,DESTINA 
 SVC   202   
 DCAL4(1)
*
LECARD   FSREADFSCB=FSCB1,ERROR=EOF  
*
 PUNCHCIOAREA
 WRTERMIOAREA,80 
 B LECARD
* 

Re: VTAM logmodes

2011-01-04 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 01/04/2011 at 10:58 EST, Malcolm Beattie beatt...@uk.ibm.com 
wrote:
 Alan Altmark writes:
  As others have said, the problem is in the logmode associated with the
  non-SNA 3270 LU.  For some reason, VTAM sysprogs keep using ancient
  logmodes for reasons they can't actually articulate except that's the 
way
  we've always done it.   For almost a quarter century, the correct 
logmode
  for any 3270 has been D4A3290 (local SNA) or D4B3290 (non-SNA).
 
 I was unable to get these logmode names to work and they don't appear
 in the z/OS 1.9 Comms Server SNA Resource Definition Reference Manual.

 However, the manual does document logmodes D4A32XX3 and D4B32XX3 in
 the Default logon mode table (ISTINCLM) in Appendix A and their
 behaviour closely matches your description

From ISTINCLM ASSEMBLE:
FLAG REASON   RELEASE DATE   ORIGIN  FLAG DESCRIPTORS 
 --   --- -- --   
$01= VM39614  VM330   900117 042852: CORRECT ERRORS IN THE PSERVIC OF
 D4C3290, D4B3290, D4A3290
$03= VM46183  VM340   910402 810410: INCLUDE LOGMODE ENTRIES 
 D4B32XX3 AND D4C32XX3. 
$04= VM46559  VM340   910819 914077: INCLUDE LOGMODE ENTRY D4A32XX3 

Perhaps the 3290 versions are specific to z/VM.  It wouldn't be the first 
time that VM accidentally got Good Stuff that MVS didn't.  It apparently 
took an additional release cycle to create the properly-named 32XX 
versions common to both MVS and VM.

Alan Altmark

z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training 
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices 
office: 607.429.3323
alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
IBM Endicott


Re: VTAM logmodes

2011-01-04 Thread Schuh, Richard
Good is a relative term when discussing VTAM :-)

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

 It wouldn't 
 be the first time that VM accidentally got Good Stuff that 
 MVS didn't. 
 

Re: Toolsrun function without RSCS

2011-01-04 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
We have the master copy of our tools disk in SFS on one system.  Each system 
has a local copy on minidisk.  A job on each system accesses the master and 
applies updates to the local copy every night.  If the SFS master isn't 
available, no harm is done to the copies.


    Dennis

Perhaps if Mayor Michael Bloomberg spent less time keeping salt off our tables 
and more time getting salt on the streets, New York roads might have been 
passable this week..  -- Eric Felten, in The Wall Street Journal



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Subject: [IBMVM] Toolsrun function without RSCS

Hi...   I fondly remember TOOLSRUN from my IBM days...   We're looking 
for a similar function - a tools repository mirrored between many VMs, 
some distant.   But we aren't licensed for RSCS, and that cost becomes 
prohibitive for this customer...

So short of writing our FTP based tool, does anyone have any thoughts on 
any easy way to keep a set of local tools in sync across multiple systems?

Thanks,
Lee
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Re: How can get the Week day ?

2011-01-04 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
tyvm, Chip, for the explanation.  So this century really began in Jan 1, 
2001, not 2000.  Interesting.

Certainly glad it was the C programmers, not the BAL programmers, that 
went wrong.

A good BAL programmer knows that everything is relative 0, not 1. 




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Technically, the first year of each century is cc01, not cc00.

Due to an appalling lack of consistency, the C programmers in the 
first decade (0) of the first century (0) declared the first year 
to be 1.  :-)

-Chip-

On 1/3/11 16:03 George Henke/NYLIC said:
 Not quite sure what is the difference between the number of days since 
 the beginning of the century and the number of days since the most 
 recent year ending in '00' unless going back or ahead more than a 
 century or 2.
 
 But I suppose there is a difference or it would have been moot.
 
 *Chip Davis c...@aresti.com*
 Be careful with Date('C').  It doesn't really give you the number of
 days in the current century (as it was originally documented).  It
 returns the number of days since the beginning of the most recent year
 ending in '00', e.g. '2000'.
 
 On 1/3/11 14:25 George Henke/NYLIC said:
   REXX also has a nifty function called Century Day that simplifies 
things
   by working in century days, days since the beginning of the century,
   rather than days since the beginning of the year.



Re: SORTING DIRECTORY GAPS BY USER

2011-01-04 Thread Mike Walter
Or better yet... _why_?

It sounds as if you want to display users and mdisks, sorted by user (and 
perhaps mdisk, too) which reside between gaps. 
But _why_?  What are you attempting to do?

Mike Walter
Aon Corporation
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I don't understand your question.. If there is a GAP then there is no 
USER. ???

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:13 PM, George Henke/NYLIC 
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Does anybody have anything like a PIPE command or a utility to do this 
sort of thing, sort the DIRECTORY DISKMAP on USER within GAPS? 

I am sure DIRMAINT would obviate the necessity for such a thing, but right 
now this is all I can do.




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Re: How can get the Week day ?

2011-01-04 Thread Schuh, Richard
It is right with the DATE(B) function - 01/01/1001.

All the technicalities aside, forget about the word Century and view the 
letter C as an abstraction for the described function. Then, everything is 
consistent, even if technically incorrect.


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tyvm, Chip, for the explanation.  So this century really began in Jan 1, 2001, 
not 2000.  Interesting.

Certainly glad it was the C programmers, not the BAL programmers, that went 
wrong.

A good BAL programmer knows that everything is relative 0, not 1.



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Technically, the first year of each century is cc01, not cc00.

Due to an appalling lack of consistency, the C programmers in the
first decade (0) of the first century (0) declared the first year
to be 1.  :-)

-Chip-

On 1/3/11 16:03 George Henke/NYLIC said:
 Not quite sure what is the difference between the number of days since
 the beginning of the century and the number of days since the most
 recent year ending in '00' unless going back or ahead more than a
 century or 2.

 But I suppose there is a difference or it would have been moot.

 *Chip Davis c...@aresti.com*
 Be careful with Date('C').  It doesn't really give you the number of
 days in the current century (as it was originally documented).  It
 returns the number of days since the beginning of the most recent year
 ending in '00', e.g. '2000'.

 On 1/3/11 14:25 George Henke/NYLIC said:
   REXX also has a nifty function called Century Day that simplifies things
   by working in century days, days since the beginning of the century,
   rather than days since the beginning of the year.



Re: How can get the Week day ?

2011-01-04 Thread Chip Davis
Well, not quite, unless you're using a VERY non-ANSI-Standard version 
of Rexx. :-)


 Say Date('U',0,'B')  --  01/01/01

But you're right about the C for Century; it was always better to 
think of it as the Roman numeral for 100.  It still suffered from the 
same boundary issues as the old Julian date, just not as frequently.


The fact is, Date('C') is not even legal at Rexx Language Level 4.00 
(much less ANSI Standard) which has been around for quite a while now.


So the best option is to simply forget about the Date('C') option in 
the first place and use Date('B') instead.  If you have existing code 
that you need to convert, you can establish the Date('C') epoch as a 
constant (now 730119) offset to the Date('B') value.


-Chip-

On 1/4/11 22:25 Schuh, Richard said:

It is right with the DATE(B) function - 01/01/1001.
 
All the technicalities aside, forget about the word Century and view 
the letter C as an abstraction for the described function. Then, 
everything is consistent, even if technically incorrect.


*From:* *George Henke/NYLIC*
tyvm, Chip, for the explanation.  So this century really began in
Jan 1, 2001, not 2000.  Interesting.

*From:* *Chip Davis c...@aresti.com*
Technically, the first year of each century is cc01, not cc00.

On 1/3/11 16:03 George Henke/NYLIC said:
  Not quite sure what is the difference between the number of days
since
  the beginning of the century and the number of days since the most
  recent year ending in '00' unless going back or ahead more than a
  century or 2.
 
  But I suppose there is a difference or it would have been moot.
 
  *Chip Davis c...@aresti.com*
  Be careful with Date('C').  It doesn't really give you the number of
  days in the current century (as it was originally documented).  It
  returns the number of days since the beginning of the most recent
year
  ending in '00', e.g. '2000'.
 
  On 1/3/11 14:25 George Henke/NYLIC said:
REXX also has a nifty function called Century Day that
simplifies things
by working in century days, days since the beginning of the
century,
rather than days since the beginning of the year.