Anyone using Dirmaint with a z10?

2011-03-20 Thread RPN01
We just installed a z10 processor this morning, and the Dirmaint satellite
on it won¹t install a directory. The message I get says that there is no
DIRECTORY statement which matches the serial and model number, and then has
the serial and model in parens. OK, so I cut and paste the serial and model
and copied it into a directory statement in Dirmaint (which actually matched
what I had there, but hey, I wanted to be sure it was right). I tried direct
again, and it still says the same thing.

The old statement for our z9 was:

DIRECTORY 0123 3390 54GRES 0123 025A7E-2094 GRIZZLY


And I replaced it with the following for the z10:

DIRECTORY 0123 3390 54GRES 0123 02B3E6-2097 GRIZZLY

What small gem of wisdom am I missing here?

-- 
Robert P. Nix  Mayo Foundation.~.
RO-OC-1-18 200 First Street SW/V\
507-284-0844   Rochester, MN 55905   /( )\
-^^-^^
In theory, theory and practice are the same, but
 in practice, theory and practice are different.




Re: VARY command update?

2011-03-20 Thread Jeff Gribbin
... and good stuff too from Melinda Varian and others on the Distribution
Page ...

http://vm.marist.edu/~pipeline/

http://vm.marist.edu/~pipeline/#MWV


Re: Anyone using Dirmaint with a z10?

2011-03-20 Thread Kris Buelens
You've got the model from Q CPUID?  (a z10 BC is a 2098, an EC is a 2097)
No hex 41 somewhere?  SET OUTPUT 41 _  can make those visible.
The DIRMSAT has no CPUID statement in its directory entry?  So CP FOR
DIRMSAT CMD Q CPUID can help.

2011/3/20 RPN01 nix.rob...@mayo.edu

  We just installed a z10 processor this morning, and the Dirmaint
 satellite on it won’t install a directory. The message I get says that there
 is no DIRECTORY statement which matches the serial and model number, and
 then has the serial and model in parens. OK, so I cut and paste the serial
 and model and copied it into a directory statement in Dirmaint (which
 actually matched what I had there, but hey, I wanted to be sure it was
 right). I tried direct again, and it still says the same thing.

 The old statement for our z9 was:

 DIRECTORY 0123 3390 54GRES 0123 025A7E-2094 GRIZZLY


 And I replaced it with the following for the z10:

 DIRECTORY 0123 3390 54GRES 0123 02B3E6-2097 GRIZZLY

 What small gem of wisdom am I missing here?

 --
 Robert P. Nix  Mayo Foundation.~.
 RO-OC-1-18 200 First Street SW/V\
 507-284-0844   Rochester, MN 55905   /( )\
 -^^-^^
 In theory, theory and practice are the same, but
  in practice, theory and practice are different.




-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: Anyone using Dirmaint with a z10?

2011-03-20 Thread Scott Rohling
I recall using SET CPUID (command or directory) to make yourself immune to
the system CPUID changing..

- Set the DIRMAINT guests (DIRMAINT/DIRMSAT/DATAMOVE) to a simple CPUID
number (e.g. 1)
- Use the CPUID in the directory (1)
- Use different numbers if you need to distinguish between systems (2,
etc) -- DIRMSAT machines only -- everyone else can stay 1 in the
complex.

I tried this a long time ago and it worked fine - but others were
uncomfortable with 'hiding' the real CPUID... I can't recall the objections
now.

You can also play games with CPUID to make SYSTEM NETID immune ..  (1 is
always MYVM1, 2 is MYVM2, etc).

I think setting CPUID (making it truly virtual) can be a useful method in
the right circumstances

(sorry - perhaps not germane to Robert's problem (though it may be a future
strategy?)  - but Kris's comment on the CPUID got me thinking about it
again)

Scott Rohling


On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.comwrote:

 You've got the model from Q CPUID?  (a z10 BC is a 2098, an EC is a 2097)
 No hex 41 somewhere?  SET OUTPUT 41 _  can make those visible.
 The DIRMSAT has no CPUID statement in its directory entry?  So CP FOR
 DIRMSAT CMD Q CPUID can help.


 2011/3/20 RPN01 nix.rob...@mayo.edu

  We just installed a z10 processor this morning, and the Dirmaint
 satellite on it won’t install a directory. The message I get says that there
 is no DIRECTORY statement which matches the serial and model number, and
 then has the serial and model in parens. OK, so I cut and paste the serial
 and model and copied it into a directory statement in Dirmaint (which
 actually matched what I had there, but hey, I wanted to be sure it was
 right). I tried direct again, and it still says the same thing.

 The old statement for our z9 was:

 DIRECTORY 0123 3390 54GRES 0123 025A7E-2094 GRIZZLY


 And I replaced it with the following for the z10:

 DIRECTORY 0123 3390 54GRES 0123 02B3E6-2097 GRIZZLY

 What small gem of wisdom am I missing here?

 --
 Robert P. Nix  Mayo Foundation.~.
 RO-OC-1-18 200 First Street SW/V\
 507-284-0844   Rochester, MN 55905   /( )\
 -^^-^^
 In theory, theory and practice are the same, but
  in practice, theory and practice are different.




 --
 Kris Buelens,
 IBM Belgium, VM customer support



Re: Anyone using Dirmaint with a z10?

2011-03-20 Thread Alan Altmark
On Sunday, 03/20/2011 at 05:53 EDT, RPN01 nix.rob...@mayo.edu wrote:
 We just installed a z10 processor this morning, and the Dirmaint 
satellite on 
 it won?t install a directory. The message I get says that there is no 
DIRECTORY 
 statement which matches the serial and model number, and then has the 
serial 
 and model in parens. OK, so I cut and paste the serial and model and 
copied it 
 into a directory statement in Dirmaint (which actually matched what I 
had 
 there, but hey, I wanted to be sure it was right). I tried direct again, 
and it 
 still says the same thing.
 
 The old statement for our z9 was:
 
 DIRECTORY 0123 3390 54GRES 0123 025A7E-2094 GRIZZLY
 
 
 And I replaced it with the following for the z10:
 
 DIRECTORY 0123 3390 54GRES 0123 02B3E6-2097 GRIZZLY
 
 What small gem of wisdom am I missing here?

My guess is that you forgot to turn off minidisk cache for the shared 
disks on the satellite system and you're not seeing the directory update. 
I had that problem a couple of weeks ago.  I couldn't figure it out until 
I linked to the DIRMAINT 1DF on the satellite system and noticed that the 
file content didn't match the primary system.  (slap forehead)

I suggested to one of the developers that satellites should turn off MDC 
for all config and db disks if their partner DIRMAINT server is on a 
different system.

Alan Altmark

z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training 
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices 
office: 607.429.3323
mobile; 607.321.7556
alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
IBM Endicott


Re: Temp SFS environment

2011-03-20 Thread Alain Benveniste
The work space is not allocated the same way if control and logs have many 
blocks defined or not. I did several tests to suit my needs and i remarked that 
dasd pages could be used or (vs. Memory) not depending of what coded in the 
pooldef file. That seems normal anyway to me and glad to see that this resolves 
my need.

Alain

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 17 mars 2011 à 20:23, Gentry, Stephen stephen.gen...@lafayettelife.com a 
écrit :

 Wasn't the original poster trying to do this with virtual disk(s)?  And
 if that's the case it has a high potential of being in memory anyway?
 Or did I miss something.
 Steve
 
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 Behalf Of David Boyes
 Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 2:51 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: Temp SFS environment
 
 All that brings a subsidiary question : is it important to preserve
 the machine xc 
 in the VMSERVx directories (I should read the doc I think...) ?
 
 You need the XC mode setting if you want SFS to use VM dataspaces to map
 parts of the data into memory (which would be consistent with the errors
 you saw) for performance reasons. It works fine without it (as you've
 seen), but performance will be impaired with very heavily loaded SFS
 servers.