Re: Backout PTF(s) applied

2011-04-20 Thread Tami Zebrowski-Darrow
Hi Steve,  
 
  
   The VMSES/E way to remove a PTF is with VMFREM.  If you put on an 
RSU the best way to remove it is to take a backup before you 
 
install it. 
 
 
   VMFREM has a TEST option so I would recommend that you use it   
  
first.  If all looks okay then run VMFREM without the TEST 
   
option.  If something does not look right then you can always
 
open a call to the support center. Pay attention to
   
any messages. For example, if a build list was serviced  
 
with the PTF then you will need to do a VMFBLD and rerun  

VMFREM (should tell you this in a message).  
  
   The default for VMFREM in UNAPPLY so if you want to also remove   

the parts associated with the PTF you need to use UNRECEIVE. 
 
Also note that the removed PTF(s) will be put in the exclude 
 
list, by default.  So if you want to apply that PTF again you
 
will have to manually remove it from the exclude list,   
 
such as HCPVM $EXCLIST.  Be aware that a removed PTF may be 
  
a pre-req for another PTF.  If so, then SERVICE or VMFAPPLY 
  
will fail, you can remove it from the exclude list and then 
  
restart SERVICE or VMAPPLY.
  Refer to the VMSES/E Introduction and Reference, Chapter 20, under
the VMFREM EXEC for usage examples. 
 
 
 
   
Sincerely, 
 
 
Tami Zebrowski-Darrow  
  
z/VM VMSES/E Service and Support
IBM Endicott



Re: Backout PTF(s) applied

2011-04-19 Thread Mike Walter
Steve,

CP does not use the 0190 and 0490 disks... those are the CMS system 
residence volumes.

When you apply service to CP that goes in the CP nucleus (i.e. into the 
"CPLOAD MODULE" on the MAINT CF1 disk), then you only need to be sure that 
you have a backup copy of the CPLOAD MODULE on the CF1 disk.  Before 
building service (perhaps with the SERVICE command), I manually link the 
MAINT CF1 disk R/W, and COPYFILE CPLOAD MODULE fm -1CPLOAD MODULE fm 
(OLDDATE REPLACE.  IBM's PUT2PROD makes backups, too - but I prefer to 
have something that I know, and where I know it is every time.

If the maintenance causes problems, you "just":   SHUTDOWN  REIPL  MODULE 
-1CPLOAD
(FYI, the filetype MUST be MODULE!)

More detail: I actually keep several older copies of the CPLOAD MODULE, 
each time manually bumping their filename higher, as in -1CPLOAD, 
-2CPLOAD, -3CPLOAD, etc. in a manual version of a z/OS GDG dataset name. 
And I keep the a "@CPLOAD MODULE" which is the CPLOAD MODULE that was on 
the disk when we first brought up that z/VM version. 

Once the -1CPLOAD MODULE has been IPLed you can choose what you want to do 
about backing out the errant CP maintenance.  That's why you pay IBM the 
S&S fee, let it be their problem (keeping jobs in the U.S. - maybe!).

Mike Walter
Aon Corporation
The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's.



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Hello Listers,

What is the best way/practice to backout a ptf or ptfs that has been 
applied and PUT2PROD?

I am about to apply some service (2 ptfs) to CP and can't seem to find 
what is best way to restore my environment prior to applying the ptfs.  I 
would prefer not to restore dasd.  It would be preferrable if there is an 
exec that can revert the affected elements. 

I have heard of VMFREM?  And also heard of not using PUT2PROD but rather 
swap 490 and 190. 

Any assistance or documentation on how to backout a couple of ptfs would 
be appreciated.

Kind Regards,
Steve






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Re: Backout PTF(s) applied

2011-04-19 Thread David Boyes
> However, I don't think my question(s) were answered in that RED alert
> unless it describes to me how best to backout ptfs applied.  
 
Call the support center is the best answer. Those folks actually understand SES 
well enough to tell you how to do it without screwing things up. If you don't 
know what all the options to VMFREM actually do, you stand an excellent chance 
of making your system unserviceable. 

That's why the support center gets the big bucks. They live for this stuff. 

-- db

PS - yes, I would like some more koolaid, Mr. Leary. 


Re: Backout PTF(s) applied

2011-04-19 Thread Perez, Steve S
Thanks, Bill. 

However, I don't think my question(s) were answered in that RED alert unless it 
describes to me how best to backout ptfs applied.  And from reviewing the 
alert, I was not able to find that answer.  And no, I do not have the PTF 
applied that the RED alert indicated.

Thanks for your response.  I will see if others here have feedback or 
experiences here prior to contacting IBM.


Kind Regards,
Steve 



Steve S. Perez
zSeries Technical Services

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Of Bill Munson
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 3:50 PM
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Subject: Re: Backout PTF(s) applied

Steve. 
There is a PTF closed yesterday to fix the RED Alert ptf sent out this morning. 

Call IBM. 

Munson 
 


- Original Message -
From: Steve Perez [sspe...@corelogic.com]
Sent: 04/19/2011 03:43 PM EST
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Backout PTF(s) applied



Hello Listers,

What is the best way/practice to backout a ptf or ptfs that has been applied 
and PUT2PROD?

I am about to apply some service (2 ptfs) to CP and can't seem to find =


what is best way to restore my environment prior to applying the ptfs.  I=

 
would prefer not to restore dasd.  It would be preferrable if there is an=

 
exec that can revert the affected elements.  

I have heard of VMFREM?  And also heard of not using PUT2PROD but rather =


swap 490 and 190.  

Any assistance or documentation on how to backout a couple of ptfs would =


be appreciated.

Kind Regards,
Steve
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Re: Backout PTF(s) applied

2011-04-19 Thread Bill Munson
Steve. 
There is a PTF closed yesterday to fix the RED Alert ptf sent out this morning. 

Call IBM. 

Munson 
 


- Original Message -
From: Steve Perez [sspe...@corelogic.com]
Sent: 04/19/2011 03:43 PM EST
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Backout PTF(s) applied



Hello Listers,

What is the best way/practice to backout a ptf or ptfs that has been 
applied and PUT2PROD?

I am about to apply some service (2 ptfs) to CP and can't seem to find =


what is best way to restore my environment prior to applying the ptfs.  I=

 
would prefer not to restore dasd.  It would be preferrable if there is an=

 
exec that can revert the affected elements.  

I have heard of VMFREM?  And also heard of not using PUT2PROD but rather =


swap 490 and 190.  

Any assistance or documentation on how to backout a couple of ptfs would =


be appreciated.

Kind Regards,
Steve
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Backout PTF(s) applied

2011-04-19 Thread Steve Perez
Hello Listers,

What is the best way/practice to backout a ptf or ptfs that has been 
applied and PUT2PROD?

I am about to apply some service (2 ptfs) to CP and can't seem to find 

what is best way to restore my environment prior to applying the ptfs.  I
 
would prefer not to restore dasd.  It would be preferrable if there is an
 
exec that can revert the affected elements.  

I have heard of VMFREM?  And also heard of not using PUT2PROD but rather 

swap 490 and 190.  

Any assistance or documentation on how to backout a couple of ptfs would 

be appreciated.

Kind Regards,
Steve