Re: Coping the RES volume
Title: Coping the RES volume Hello Larry, The way I work there is never a dumb question. I used CPFMTXA and did the copy all worked great. Then to change the name I did the CPFMTXA 780 890RES LABEL Took about 15 minutes for 4 drives. The COPY ALL did the trick. Thanks for following up. It does help. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ext. 40441 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Macioce, Larry Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 11:13 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Coping the RES volume Im going to ask a dumb question . Did you do a cpfmtxa to label the disk? I have dumped(not copied) and restored vols using this method. DUMP TRACKS(0,0,3338,14) INDDNAME(DASD) OUTDDNAME(TAPE) ADMIN CPVOLUME CANCELERROR RESTORE TRACKS(0,0,3338,14) INDDNAME(TAPE) OUTDDNAME(DASD) ADMIN - CPVOLUME CANCELERROR PURGE mace From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward M. Martin Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 10:57 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Coping the RES volume Hello Everyone, Is there away to copy a SYSRES volume and make it usable without doing the CPformat first? Or do I have to do a COPY ALL? I did a COPY CPVOL and am having a problem putting my alternate directory on line. directxa z890 direct z/VM USER DIRECTORY CREATION PROGRAM - VERSION 4 RELEASE 3.0 HCPDIR787E I/O ERROR 0780 INCORRECT RECORD LENGTH DETECTED EOJ DIRECTORY NOT UPDATED Thanks to you all. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ext. 40441 *** * The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. *** *
Coping the RES volume
Title: Coping the RES volume Hello Everyone, Is there away to copy a SYSRES volume and make it usable without doing the CPformat first? Or do I have to do a COPY ALL? I did a COPY CPVOL and am having a problem putting my alternate directory on line. directxa z890 direct z/VM USER DIRECTORY CREATION PROGRAM - VERSION 4 RELEASE 3.0 HCPDIR787E I/O ERROR 0780 INCORRECT RECORD LENGTH DETECTED EOJ DIRECTORY NOT UPDATED Thanks to you all. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ext. 40441
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Ed--The most sure way to copy SYSRES or any volume on VM is to use DDR. If you are concerned about getting a super clean copy, shut down the system the input volume is on and either copy from another system, or use the stand alone DDR program. Even without that, however, all you will do is have some incomplete console files or whatever else may have been running. You would have to do a FORCE START at IPL if you are copying a running system. No need to CPFORMAT anything ahead of time. Here's what the commands look like: DDR IN input_address 3390 OUT output_address 3390 COPY ALL This is assuming that you haven't been getting fancy and putting things like the directory and other CP owned areas on other volumes. Unless you are sure of what you are doing DO NOT ipl the copied volume while the copy_from volume is running. Jim At 10:57 AM 6/12/2006, you wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --_=_NextPart_001_01C68E30.8576F26E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Everyone, Is there away to copy a SYSRES volume and make it usable without doing the CPformat first? Or do I have to do a COPY ALL? I did a COPY CPVOL and am having a problem putting my alternate directory on line. directxa z890 direct =20 z/VM USER DIRECTORY CREATION PROGRAM - VERSION 4 RELEASE 3.0=20 HCPDIR787E I/O ERROR 0780 INCORRECT RECORD LENGTH DETECTED =20 EOJ DIRECTORY NOT UPDATED =20 Thanks to you all. Ed Martin=20 Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ext. 40441 --_=_NextPart_001_01C68E30.8576F26E Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN Hello Everyone, Is there away to copy a SYSRES volume and = make it usable without doing the CPformat = first? Or do I have to do a COPY ALL? I did a COPY CPVOL and am having a = problem putting my alternate directory on = line. directxa z890 = direct = nbsp; n= bsp; nb= sp; z/VM USER DIRECTORY CREATION PROGRAM - VERSION 4 RELEASE 3.0 = HCPDIR787E I/O ERROR 0780 INCORRECT RECORD LENGTH = DETECTED EOJ DIRECTORY NOT = UPDATED = = nbsp; Thanks to you all. Ed Martin = Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ext. = 40441 --_=_NextPart_001_01C68E30.8576F26E-- Jim Bohnsack Cornell Univ. (607) 255-1760
Re: Coping the RES volume
Hello Mike and Jim, Thanks for the response. I am making a second level machine. Pretty much the same as the others I have made. IPLs clean and I am doing well. It just seems to me that COPY CPVOL should get all the required CP stuff. I keep forgetting that COPY CPVOL just does not get all of the Directory area. Thanks for all bits and pieces. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ext. 40441 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 11:54 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Coping the RES volume Ed, COPY CPVOL may not do what you want for the directory area; the manual indicates that it copies all PERM, PARM, and *active* directory space. If you are trying to write to some alternate area, those cylinders would need to have been formatted by CPFMTXA (or ICKDSF, which is called by CPFMTXA) ahead of time, or DDR copied from a location that was already formatted. Additionally, the HELP for HCPDIR787E, indicates another possible problem: The device type specified on the DIRECTORY statement did not match the device type of the directory volume. Are the new and old volumes the same device type and model? Formatting/Allocating the specific cylinder required for the alternate directory on the output volume should be fast and pretty easy. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. Edward M. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 06/12/2006 09:57 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Coping the RES volume Hello Everyone, Is there away to copy a SYSRES volume and make it usable without doing the CPformat first? Or do I have to do a COPY ALL? I did a COPY CPVOL and am having a problem putting my alternate directory on line. directxa z890 direct z/VM USER DIRECTORY CREATION PROGRAM - VERSION 4 RELEASE 3.0 HCPDIR787E I/O ERROR 0780 INCORRECT RECORD LENGTH DETECTED EOJ DIRECTORY NOT UPDATED Thanks to you all. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ext. 40441 The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited.
Re: Coping the RES volume
Title: Coping the RES volume Im going to ask a dumb question . Did you do a cpfmtxa to label the disk? I have dumped(not copied) and restored vols using this method. DUMP TRACKS(0,0,3338,14) INDDNAME(DASD) OUTDDNAME(TAPE) ADMIN CPVOLUME CANCELERROR RESTORE TRACKS(0,0,3338,14) INDDNAME(TAPE) OUTDDNAME(DASD) ADMIN - CPVOLUME CANCELERROR PURGE mace From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward M. Martin Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 10:57 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Coping the RES volume Hello Everyone, Is there away to copy a SYSRES volume and make it usable without doing the CPformat first? Or do I have to do a COPY ALL? I did a COPY CPVOL and am having a problem putting my alternate directory on line. directxa z890 direct z/VM USER DIRECTORY CREATION PROGRAM - VERSION 4 RELEASE 3.0 HCPDIR787E I/O ERROR 0780 INCORRECT RECORD LENGTH DETECTED EOJ DIRECTORY NOT UPDATED Thanks to you all. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ext. 40441 *** * The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. *** *
