DB2 running in a Linux enviornment

2011-04-21 Thread clifford jackson

what are the PROS and CONS of running DB2 under Linux with the Linux running 
under z/VM as to running DB2 under z/VM without Linux..
 
 
 
Cliff Jackson
Senior Systems Programmer
703-607-1393  

Re: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment

2011-04-21 Thread Dave Jones
Hi, Cliff.

One of the pros for running DB2 on zLinux is that the version of DB2 for
zLinux is under active development by the IBM DB2 group and supports
more features and capabilities than does the DB2 for z/VM. I think the
DB2 for z/VM is basically in maintenance mode only these days.

DJ

On 04/21/2011 10:12 AM, clifford jackson wrote:
 what are the PROS and CONS of running DB2 under Linux with the Linux
 running under z/VM as to running DB2 under z/VM without Linux..
  
  
  
 Cliff Jackson
 Senior Systems Programmer
 703-607-1393

-- 
Dave Jones
V/Soft Software
www.vsoft-software.com
Houston, TX
281.578.7544


Re: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment

2011-04-21 Thread clifford jackson

Dave, what about storage capacity for large data bases and performance.
 
 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 10:17:46 -0500
 From: d...@vsoft-software.com
 Subject: Re: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 
 Hi, Cliff.
 
 One of the pros for running DB2 on zLinux is that the version of DB2 for
 zLinux is under active development by the IBM DB2 group and supports
 more features and capabilities than does the DB2 for z/VM. I think the
 DB2 for z/VM is basically in maintenance mode only these days.
 
 DJ
 
 On 04/21/2011 10:12 AM, clifford jackson wrote:
  what are the PROS and CONS of running DB2 under Linux with the Linux
  running under z/VM as to running DB2 under z/VM without Linux..
  
  
  
  Cliff Jackson
  Senior Systems Programmer
  703-607-1393
 
 -- 
 Dave Jones
 V/Soft Software
 www.vsoft-software.com
 Houston, TX
 281.578.7544
  

Re: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment

2011-04-21 Thread Rogério Soares
Cliff, We have about 15 z/Linux servers running db2 V9.5 and
V9.7 servers between 4 and 6 GB of storage,  using Luns and  with No File
System cache db2 option enable, with REORDER option off to this servers.. We
have experiemented great performances.




On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:32 PM, clifford jackson 
cliffordjackson...@msn.com wrote:

  Dave, what about storage capacity for large data bases and performance.

  Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 10:17:46 -0500
  From: d...@vsoft-software.com
  Subject: Re: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment
  To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU

 
  Hi, Cliff.
 
  One of the pros for running DB2 on zLinux is that the version of DB2 for
  zLinux is under active development by the IBM DB2 group and supports
  more features and capabilities than does the DB2 for z/VM. I think the
  DB2 for z/VM is basically in maintenance mode only these days.
 
  DJ
 
  On 04/21/2011 10:12 AM, clifford jackson wrote:
   what are the PROS and CONS of running DB2 under Linux with the Linux
   running under z/VM as to running DB2 under z/VM without Linux..
  
  
  
   Cliff Jackson
   Senior Systems Programmer
   703-607-1393
 
  --
  Dave Jones
  V/Soft Software
  www.vsoft-software.com
  Houston, TX
  281.578.7544



Re: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment

2011-04-21 Thread Gentry, Stephen
Rogério, what mainframe/hardware are you running this on?  IFL?  z/VM?

Thanks,

Steve

 

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Rogério Soares
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:38 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment

 

Cliff, We have about 15 z/Linux servers running db2 V9.5 and 
V9.7 servers between 4 and 6 GB of storage,  using Luns and  with No File 
System cache db2 option enable, with REORDER option off to this servers.. We 
have experiemented great performances.





On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:32 PM, clifford jackson cliffordjackson...@msn.com 
wrote:

Dave, what about storage capacity for large data bases and performance.
 
 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 10:17:46 -0500
 From: d...@vsoft-software.com
 Subject: Re: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU


 
 Hi, Cliff.
 
 One of the pros for running DB2 on zLinux is that the version of DB2 for
 zLinux is under active development by the IBM DB2 group and supports
 more features and capabilities than does the DB2 for z/VM. I think the
 DB2 for z/VM is basically in maintenance mode only these days.
 
 DJ
 
 On 04/21/2011 10:12 AM, clifford jackson wrote:
  what are the PROS and CONS of running DB2 under Linux with the Linux
  running under z/VM as to running DB2 under z/VM without Linux..
  
  
  
  Cliff Jackson
  Senior Systems Programmer
  703-607-1393
 
 -- 
 Dave Jones
 V/Soft Software
 www.vsoft-software.com
 Houston, TX
 281.578.7544

 



Re: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment

2011-04-21 Thread Rogério Soares
Actually we running with Z196 with Z/VM 6.1, on a lpar with 200GB of Storage
and 20 IFLS



On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Gentry, Stephen 
stephen.gen...@lafayettelife.com wrote:

 Rogério, what mainframe/hardware are you running this on?  IFL?  z/VM?

 Thanks,

 Steve



 *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On
 Behalf Of *Rogério Soares
 *Sent:* Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:38 AM

 *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 *Subject:* Re: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment



 Cliff, We have about 15 z/Linux servers running db2 V9.5
 and V9.7 servers between 4 and 6 GB of storage,  using Luns and  with No
 File System cache db2 option enable, with REORDER option off to this
 servers.. We have experiemented great performances.



 On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:32 PM, clifford jackson 
 cliffordjackson...@msn.com wrote:

 Dave, what about storage capacity for large data bases and performance.

  Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 10:17:46 -0500
  From: d...@vsoft-software.com
  Subject: Re: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment
  To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU


 
  Hi, Cliff.
 
  One of the pros for running DB2 on zLinux is that the version of DB2 for
  zLinux is under active development by the IBM DB2 group and supports
  more features and capabilities than does the DB2 for z/VM. I think the
  DB2 for z/VM is basically in maintenance mode only these days.
 
  DJ
 
  On 04/21/2011 10:12 AM, clifford jackson wrote:
   what are the PROS and CONS of running DB2 under Linux with the Linux
   running under z/VM as to running DB2 under z/VM without Linux..
  
  
  
   Cliff Jackson
   Senior Systems Programmer
   703-607-1393
 
  --
  Dave Jones
  V/Soft Software
  www.vsoft-software.com
  Houston, TX
  281.578.7544





Re: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment

2011-04-21 Thread Gentry, Stephen
Yeah, I guess you would have great performance.  8-)

Thanks for the info.

Steve

 

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Rogério Soares
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 12:02 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment

 


Actually we running with Z196 with Z/VM 6.1, on a lpar with 200GB of Storage 
and 20 IFLS

 

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Gentry, Stephen 
stephen.gen...@lafayettelife.com wrote:

Rogério, what mainframe/hardware are you running this on?  IFL?  z/VM?

Thanks,

Steve

 

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Rogério Soares
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:38 AM


To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment

 

Cliff, We have about 15 z/Linux servers running db2 V9.5 and 
V9.7 servers between 4 and 6 GB of storage,  using Luns and  with No File 
System cache db2 option enable, with REORDER option off to this servers.. We 
have experiemented great performances.




On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:32 PM, clifford jackson cliffordjackson...@msn.com 
wrote:

Dave, what about storage capacity for large data bases and performance.
 
 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 10:17:46 -0500
 From: d...@vsoft-software.com
 Subject: Re: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU


 
 Hi, Cliff.
 
 One of the pros for running DB2 on zLinux is that the version of DB2 for
 zLinux is under active development by the IBM DB2 group and supports
 more features and capabilities than does the DB2 for z/VM. I think the
 DB2 for z/VM is basically in maintenance mode only these days.
 
 DJ
 
 On 04/21/2011 10:12 AM, clifford jackson wrote:
  what are the PROS and CONS of running DB2 under Linux with the Linux
  running under z/VM as to running DB2 under z/VM without Linux..
  
  
  
  Cliff Jackson
  Senior Systems Programmer
  703-607-1393
 
 -- 
 Dave Jones
 V/Soft Software
 www.vsoft-software.com
 Houston, TX
 281.578.7544

 

 



Re: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment

2011-04-21 Thread Rogério Soares
hehehe, with some troubles too ;) but nothing that listeners can't help with
great informations.

By the way: THANKS for all peoples that help me A LOT recently.



On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Gentry, Stephen 
stephen.gen...@lafayettelife.com wrote:

 Yeah, I guess you would have great performance.  8-)

 Thanks for the info.

 Steve



 *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On
 Behalf Of *Rogério Soares
 *Sent:* Thursday, April 21, 2011 12:02 PM

 *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 *Subject:* Re: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment




 Actually we running with Z196 with Z/VM 6.1, on a lpar with 200GB of
 Storage and 20 IFLS



 On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Gentry, Stephen 
 stephen.gen...@lafayettelife.com wrote:

 Rogério, what mainframe/hardware are you running this on?  IFL?  z/VM?

 Thanks,

 Steve



 *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On
 Behalf Of *Rogério Soares
 *Sent:* Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:38 AM


 *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 *Subject:* Re: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment



 Cliff, We have about 15 z/Linux servers running db2 V9.5
 and V9.7 servers between 4 and 6 GB of storage,  using Luns and  with No
 File System cache db2 option enable, with REORDER option off to this
 servers.. We have experiemented great performances.


 On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:32 PM, clifford jackson 
 cliffordjackson...@msn.com wrote:

 Dave, what about storage capacity for large data bases and performance.

  Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 10:17:46 -0500
  From: d...@vsoft-software.com
  Subject: Re: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment
  To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU


 
  Hi, Cliff.
 
  One of the pros for running DB2 on zLinux is that the version of DB2 for
  zLinux is under active development by the IBM DB2 group and supports
  more features and capabilities than does the DB2 for z/VM. I think the
  DB2 for z/VM is basically in maintenance mode only these days.
 
  DJ
 
  On 04/21/2011 10:12 AM, clifford jackson wrote:
   what are the PROS and CONS of running DB2 under Linux with the Linux
   running under z/VM as to running DB2 under z/VM without Linux..
  
  
  
   Cliff Jackson
   Senior Systems Programmer
   703-607-1393
 
  --
  Dave Jones
  V/Soft Software
  www.vsoft-software.com
  Houston, TX
  281.578.7544







Re: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment

2011-04-21 Thread Dave Jones
While I have no direct, hands on knowledge of DB2 on zLinux, I *can*
state that Oracle runs very well in such an environment, and can serve
out very large databases with very good to excellent performance. A bit
of system's tuning is required, of course, but it's well worth the effort.

Note that DB2 for z/VM runs in a CMS based environment, which is 31-bit,
while the zLinux environment is 64-bit. I believe DB2 for zLinux is also
64-bit capable, allowing bigger databases in storage, etc.

DJ

On 04/21/2011 10:32 AM, clifford jackson wrote:
 Dave, what about storage capacity for large data bases and performance.
  
 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 10:17:46 -0500
 From: d...@vsoft-software.com
 Subject: Re: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU

 Hi, Cliff.

 One of the pros for running DB2 on zLinux is that the version of DB2 for
 zLinux is under active development by the IBM DB2 group and supports
 more features and capabilities than does the DB2 for z/VM. I think the
 DB2 for z/VM is basically in maintenance mode only these days.

 DJ

 On 04/21/2011 10:12 AM, clifford jackson wrote:
  what are the PROS and CONS of running DB2 under Linux with the Linux
  running under z/VM as to running DB2 under z/VM without Linux..
 
 
 
  Cliff Jackson
  Senior Systems Programmer
  703-607-1393

 --
 Dave Jones
 V/Soft Software
 www.vsoft-software.com
 Houston, TX
 281.578.7544

-- 
Dave Jones
V/Soft Software
www.vsoft-software.com
Houston, TX
281.578.7544


Re: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment

2011-04-21 Thread David Boyes
Optimal use of personnel
Efficient overcommitment of resources
Conservation of limited LPAR resource (even on the biggest boxes, you can only 
have so many)
Network efficiency and redundancy
Built in automation function (PROP)
Rapid recovery using standard tools (ADRDSSU lets you put the whole environment 
back with the same tools you use for z/OS if you have it - cuts recovery time 
substantially)
Simple production of security zones

Need I continue?

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of clifford jackson
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:13 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment

what are the PROS and CONS of running DB2 under Linux with the Linux running 
under z/VM as to running DB2 under z/VM without Linux..



Cliff Jackson
Senior Systems Programmer
703-607-1393


Re: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment

2011-04-21 Thread Kris Buelens
One of my customers is very happy with the replacement of his old DB2/VM
with UDB under Linux under z/VM.

   - better performance
   - better management tools, more suited for 24/24 7/7


2011/4/21 Dave Jones d...@vsoft-software.com

 Hi, Cliff.

 One of the pros for running DB2 on zLinux is that the version of DB2 for
 zLinux is under active development by the IBM DB2 group and supports
 more features and capabilities than does the DB2 for z/VM. I think the
 DB2 for z/VM is basically in maintenance mode only these days.

 DJ

 On 04/21/2011 10:12 AM, clifford jackson wrote:
  what are the PROS and CONS of running DB2 under Linux with the Linux
  running under z/VM as to running DB2 under z/VM without Linux..
 
 
 
  Cliff Jackson
  Senior Systems Programmer
  703-607-1393

 --
 Dave Jones
 V/Soft Software
 www.vsoft-software.com
 Houston, TX
 281.578.7544




-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment

2011-04-21 Thread Graves Nora E
Cliff,

To add to this, the JDBC drivers for DB2 under z/VM are not being
upgraded, either.  This causes a problem with some 3rd party software
connecting to the database.


Nora Graves
nora.e.gra...@irs.gov
Main IRS, Room 6531
(202) 622-6735 
Fax (202) 622-3123
SE:W:CAR:MP:D:KS:BRSI

-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
Behalf Of Dave Jones
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:18 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment

Hi, Cliff.

One of the pros for running DB2 on zLinux is that the version of DB2 for
zLinux is under active development by the IBM DB2 group and supports
more features and capabilities than does the DB2 for z/VM. I think the
DB2 for z/VM is basically in maintenance mode only these days.

DJ

On 04/21/2011 10:12 AM, clifford jackson wrote:
 what are the PROS and CONS of running DB2 under Linux with the Linux
 running under z/VM as to running DB2 under z/VM without Linux..
  
  
  
 Cliff Jackson
 Senior Systems Programmer
 703-607-1393

-- 
Dave Jones
V/Soft Software
www.vsoft-software.com
Houston, TX
281.578.7544


Re: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment

2011-04-21 Thread Anthony Pignataro
FYI.. DB2 under VM still has periodic (every 18 months or so) new releases 
and is actively supported.


Tony Pignataro








From:   clifford jackson cliffordjackson...@msn.com
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Date:   04/21/2011 11:38 AM
Subject:Re: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment
Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU



Dave, what about storage capacity for large data bases and performance.
 
 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 10:17:46 -0500
 From: d...@vsoft-software.com
 Subject: Re: DB2 running in a Linux enviornment
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 
 Hi, Cliff.
 
 One of the pros for running DB2 on zLinux is that the version of DB2 for
 zLinux is under active development by the IBM DB2 group and supports
 more features and capabilities than does the DB2 for z/VM. I think the
 DB2 for z/VM is basically in maintenance mode only these days.
 
 DJ
 
 On 04/21/2011 10:12 AM, clifford jackson wrote:
  what are the PROS and CONS of running DB2 under Linux with the Linux
  running under z/VM as to running DB2 under z/VM without Linux..
  
  
  
  Cliff Jackson
  Senior Systems Programmer
  703-607-1393
 
 -- 
 Dave Jones
 V/Soft Software
 www.vsoft-software.com
 Houston, TX
 281.578.7544