Re: DDR Back-up with verifying Tape label

2010-05-06 Thread David Boyes

What do you mean 'the version of DDR that works with CMS Pipelines'?

http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?DRPC

It's been out there for almost 2 years now. I don't know why it isn't the 
default version of DDR by now. Too much other stuff to do, I guess.

> coud you give me sample DDR procedure or program to verify TAPE Label during 
> DDR Pack-dump?

Read the description of the FILEDEF and LABELDEF commands in your CMS 
documentation to define the label information you want to use and the list of 
volumes you want it to use (essentially this is the same as any other OS 
simulation multivolume SL tape operation).  You then feed the DDR module from 
the DRPC package a prebuilt file containing standard DDR statements as 
documented in the DDR help file and pipe it to TAP1, eg PIPE DDR fn ft fm | 
TAP1 SL The CMS OS sim processing kicks in to actually handle the tape 
labels, and it's just like any other labeled tape.

If IBM wants more detail, I'm always open to contracting. After all, you guys 
are getting paid for this.

-- db



Re: DDR Back-up with verifying Tape label

2010-05-05 Thread TaeMin Baek
David,

What do you mean 'the version of DDR that works with CMS Pipelines'?
We use default DDR in z/VM V6.1 now. do i need to order special version of 
DDR?
or if dafault DDR in z/VM V6.1 is fine, coud you give me sample DDR 
procedure or program to verify TAPE Label during DDR Pack-dump?

Regards



Tae Min Baek
 Mmaa Bldg, 467-12 Dogok-Dong

Advisory IT Architect
 Seoul, 135700
z/Linux Team
 Korea
IBM Sales & Distribution, STG Sales
 

Phone:
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From:   David Boyes 
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Date:   2010-05-04 오후 08:56
Subject:    Re: DDR Back-up with verifying Tape label
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> If you mean the volser of the tape, no.  DDR uses unlabeled tapes.

Or use the version of DDR that works with CMS Pipelines (NOT PIPEDDR) and 
have the TAPn stage manage the labels. Works nicely.

Do I need to do a requirement for IBM to ship the version of DDR that 
supports this as the default DDR? It'd be real nice if the CMS file 
support was also added to the "standard" one...

-- db

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Re: DDR Back-up with verifying Tape label

2010-05-04 Thread David Boyes
Kewl. ++good, citizen. 8-) I'll write up the CMS part just in case.

-- db


From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Eric R Farman
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:47 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: DDR Back-up with verifying Tape label

Hi Dave,

Can't speak to CMS file support, but the existing requirement for DDR/PIPES is 
sufficient for us to complete that work.

Regards,
   Eric

Eric Farman
z/VM I/O Development
IBM Endicott, NY


From:

David Boyes 

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Date:

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Re: DDR Back-up with verifying Tape label

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> If you mean the volser of the tape, no.  DDR uses unlabeled tapes.

Or use the version of DDR that works with CMS Pipelines (NOT PIPEDDR) and have 
the TAPn stage manage the labels. Works nicely.

Do I need to do a requirement for IBM to ship the version of DDR that supports 
this as the default DDR? It'd be real nice if the CMS file support was also 
added to the "standard" one...

-- db



Re: DDR Back-up with verifying Tape label

2010-05-04 Thread Eric R Farman
Hi Dave,

Can't speak to CMS file support, but the existing requirement for 
DDR/PIPES is sufficient for us to complete that work.

Regards,
Eric

Eric Farman
z/VM I/O Development
IBM Endicott, NY




From:
David Boyes 
To:
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Date:
05/04/2010 07:56 AM
Subject:
Re: DDR Back-up with verifying Tape label
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> If you mean the volser of the tape, no.  DDR uses unlabeled tapes.

Or use the version of DDR that works with CMS Pipelines (NOT PIPEDDR) and 
have the TAPn stage manage the labels. Works nicely.

Do I need to do a requirement for IBM to ship the version of DDR that 
supports this as the default DDR? It'd be real nice if the CMS file 
support was also added to the "standard" one...

-- db




Re: DDR Back-up with verifying Tape label

2010-05-04 Thread Mrohs, Ray
We used to run a product called XDR in place of DDR. It used standard labels 
and had a few other nice features like CMS file level restores. I'm not sure if 
the company is still around but their web site is still up:
http://www.seqsoft.com/

Ray Mrohs 


Re: DDR Back-up with verifying Tape label

2010-05-04 Thread David Boyes
> If you mean the volser of the tape, no.  DDR uses unlabeled tapes.

Or use the version of DDR that works with CMS Pipelines (NOT PIPEDDR) and have 
the TAPn stage manage the labels. Works nicely.

Do I need to do a requirement for IBM to ship the version of DDR that supports 
this as the default DDR? It'd be real nice if the CMS file support was also 
added to the "standard" one...

-- db


Re: DDR Back-up with verifying Tape label

2010-05-04 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 05/04/2010 at 02:19 EST, TaeMin Baek  
wrote:
> i don't have tape operation manager. 
> Is there any way to verify TAPE LABEL during DDR Backup to prevent 
operator not 
> inserting worng tape? 

If you mean the volser of the tape, no.  DDR uses unlabeled tapes.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


DDR Back-up with verifying Tape label

2010-05-04 Thread TaeMin Baek
Dear,

i don't have tape operation manager.
Is there any way to verify TAPE LABEL during DDR Backup to prevent 
operator not inserting worng tape? 


Regards



Tae Min Baek
 Mmaa Bldg, 467-12 Dogok-Dong

Advisory IT Architect
 Seoul, 135700
z/Linux Team
 Korea
IBM Sales & Distribution, STG Sales
 

Phone:
+822-3781-8224
 

Mobile:
+82-010-4995-8224
 

e-mail:
tmb...@kr.ibm.com
 

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