Re: ERASE SMF DATA on ALTERNATE DISK
If RACFSMF failed, then you can indeed have data on 301 and 302. When the active SMF disk gets full, RACF will not be able to switch and SMF recording stops. So, we created REXX code for our system automation to check for this situation. You could try a simple XAUTOLOG RACFSMF and see if that cleans the situation. Otherwise: from any user with RACF permission to LINK to RACFVM 301 or 302, you can issue CP LINK RACFVM 30x M ACCESS Z and do what you like, such as ERASE... q Q1. Why do some many VM users continuously log ON and OFF do switch userids, where a simple LINK from their own user could be enough? Q2 And, when a LOGON is required (or the best after all) why don't they use LOGON BY, but try they to remember the passwords of all these service machines? Since I'm back in the field for many customers I have to explain this over and over again. Even without RACF, there is a LOGON BY capability. /q 2010/3/10 Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com On Wednesday, 03/10/2010 at 12:11 EST, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov wrote: I want to ERASE the SMF DATA file from the ALTERNATE disk(302 in my case). How can I do this without logging on to the RACFVM Server. Can I do this from the RACFSMF machine? RACFSMF already does that after it archives the file to the 192 disk. RACFSMF is designed to be autologged at the same time every day (e.g. midnight). Its behavior is governed by the settings in the PROFILE EXEC (SMFPROF EXEC). But, in general, an SMSG RACFVM SMF SWITCH causes RACF to close the active SMF log and detach the disk it is on. You have to look at the SMF CONTROL file on RACFVM's 191 in order to know which disk is CURRENT so you know which disk to go after. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: ERASE SMF DATA on ALTERNATE DISK
Thanks Kris this is what I was looking for. I am setting this all up and did have some problems with RACFSMF which gave me data on both 301 and 302 because of a SWITCH. So I wanted to clear the alternate one to test out my changes to RACFSMF. I certainly LINK to other users all of the time but was not sure about if I would hurt anything by LINKING to the 302 disk in write mode and erasing from another user that was the real question/worry. Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Citic z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support Office - 443 348-2102 Cell - 443 632-4191 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 2:56 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: ERASE SMF DATA on ALTERNATE DISK If RACFSMF failed, then you can indeed have data on 301 and 302. When the active SMF disk gets full, RACF will not be able to switch and SMF recording stops. So, we created REXX code for our system automation to check for this situation. You could try a simple XAUTOLOG RACFSMF and see if that cleans the situation. Otherwise: from any user with RACF permission to LINK to RACFVM 301 or 302, you can issue CP LINK RACFVM 30x M ACCESS Z and do what you like, such as ERASE... q Q1. Why do some many VM users continuously log ON and OFF do switch userids, where a simple LINK from their own user could be enough? Q2 And, when a LOGON is required (or the best after all) why don't they use LOGON BY, but try they to remember the passwords of all these service machines? Since I'm back in the field for many customers I have to explain this over and over again. Even without RACF, there is a LOGON BY capability. /q 2010/3/10 Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com On Wednesday, 03/10/2010 at 12:11 EST, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov wrote: I want to ERASE the SMF DATA file from the ALTERNATE disk(302 in my case). How can I do this without logging on to the RACFVM Server. Can I do this from the RACFSMF machine? RACFSMF already does that after it archives the file to the 192 disk. RACFSMF is designed to be autologged at the same time every day (e.g. midnight). Its behavior is governed by the settings in the PROFILE EXEC (SMFPROF EXEC). But, in general, an SMSG RACFVM SMF SWITCH causes RACF to close the active SMF log and detach the disk it is on. You have to look at the SMF CONTROL file on RACFVM's 191 in order to know which disk is CURRENT so you know which disk to go after. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: ERASE SMF DATA on ALTERNATE DISK
q Q3. Why don't more people use VMLINK? /q VMLINK RACFVM 30x (WRITE one command, no searching for a free filemode, etc. Or even better: VMLINK RACFVM 30x (WRITE FILELIST Make any changes to the disk while in FILELIST, and the disk is detached when you press PF3. On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:56 AM, Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com wrote: If RACFSMF failed, then you can indeed have data on 301 and 302. When the active SMF disk gets full, RACF will not be able to switch and SMF recording stops. So, we created REXX code for our system automation to check for this situation. You could try a simple XAUTOLOG RACFSMF and see if that cleans the situation. Otherwise: from any user with RACF permission to LINK to RACFVM 301 or 302, you can issue CP LINK RACFVM 30x M ACCESS Z and do what you like, such as ERASE... q Q1. Why do some many VM users continuously log ON and OFF do switch userids, where a simple LINK from their own user could be enough? Q2 And, when a LOGON is required (or the best after all) why don't they use LOGON BY, but try they to remember the passwords of all these service machines? Since I'm back in the field for many customers I have to explain this over and over again. Even without RACF, there is a LOGON BY capability. /q -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support -- Bruce Hayden z/VM and Linux on System z ATS IBM, Endicott, NY
Re: ERASE SMF DATA on ALTERNATE DISK
aSometimes it's difficult to remember all these new fangled tools... :) /a I know VMLINK is there, but find myself consistently using LINK and ACCESS because that's what I learned when I was a wee lad in the VM world. On 03/10/2010 06:38 AM, Bruce Hayden wrote: q Q3. Why don't more people use VMLINK? /q VMLINK RACFVM 30x (WRITE one command, no searching for a free filemode, etc. Or even better: VMLINK RACFVM 30x (WRITE FILELIST Make any changes to the disk while in FILELIST, and the disk is detached when you press PF3. -- Rich Smrcina Phone: 414-491-6001 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2010 - Apr 9-13, 2010 Covington, KY
Re: ERASE SMF DATA on ALTERNATE DISK
On 03/10/2010 08:12 AM, Scott Rohling wrote: Somewhat related -- you can do an ACCESS (ERASE to wipe the disk clean without doing file deletes. Scott Now that's just dark twisted magic. -- Rich Smrcina Phone: 414-491-6001 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2010 - Apr 9-13, 2010 Covington, KY
Re: ERASE SMF DATA on ALTERNATE DISK
ACCESS (ERASE Yes, I know that too, but, unless you write something to it afterwards, the files simply come back with the next ACCESS. So, no solution for RACFVM 30x For Q3: you got me, I was lazy and didn't want to look up how to request a write LINK Yes, I have my own LNK, started before VMLINK came out, and its syntax is much closer to LINK, so I don't use VMLINK often. LNK userid vdev!191 vdev2!* mode!RR pswd accessmode!* (options Most important options: FILELIST and DETACH, and special shorties like FD stans for FILELIST DETACH and MFD makes a MR link plus FILELIST DETACH So, a quick peek to eg VMUTIL 191 is LNK VMUTIL (FD and for the SMF issue:: LNK RACFVM 301 (MFD LNK is included with some of the tools I placed on the download lib (at least in PRFRUN). 2010/3/10 Rich Smrcina r...@velocitysoftware.com On 03/10/2010 08:12 AM, Scott Rohling wrote: Somewhat related -- you can do an ACCESS (ERASE to wipe the disk clean without doing file deletes. Scott Now that's just dark twisted magic. -- Rich Smrcina Phone: 414-491-6001 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2010 - Apr 9-13, 2010 Covington, KY -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: ERASE SMF DATA on ALTERNATE DISK
On Wednesday, 03/10/2010 at 09:35 EST, Rich Smrcina r...@velocitysoftware.com wrote: On 03/10/2010 08:12 AM, Scott Rohling wrote: Somewhat related -- you can do an ACCESS (ERASE to wipe the disk clean without doing file deletes. Scott Now that's just dark twisted magic. But it's only sticky if you subsequently modify the disk. If you detach it or re-ACCESS it without the ERASE option, the files will all come back. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: ERASE SMF DATA on ALTERNATE DISK
On 03/10/2010 10:34 AM, Alan Altmark wrote: But it's only sticky if you subsequently modify the disk. If you detach it or re-ACCESS it without the ERASE option, the files will all come back. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott Erase with undo. -- Rich Smrcina Phone: 414-491-6001 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2010 - Apr 9-13, 2010 Covington, KY
ERASE SMF DATA on ALTERNATE DISK
Hi I want to ERASE the SMF DATA file from the ALTERNATE disk(302 in my case). How can I do this without logging on to the RACFVM Server. Can I do this from the RACFSMF machine? Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Citic z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support Office - 443 348-2102 Cell - 443 632-4191
Re: ERASE SMF DATA on ALTERNATE DISK
Does RACFSMF respond to commands sent vis SMSG the way RSCS or SMTP do? Does it have a CP or CMS command? Preferably both. /Tom Kern Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) wrote: Hi I want to ERASE the SMF DATA file from the ALTERNATE disk(302 in my case). How can I do this without logging on to the RACFVM Server. Can I do this from the RACFSMF machine? /Thank You,/ / / /Terry Martin/ /Lockheed Martin - Citic/ /z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support/ /Office - 443 348-2102/ /Cell - 443 632-4191/
Re: ERASE SMF DATA on ALTERNATE DISK
On Wednesday, 03/10/2010 at 12:11 EST, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov wrote: I want to ERASE the SMF DATA file from the ALTERNATE disk(302 in my case). How can I do this without logging on to the RACFVM Server. Can I do this from the RACFSMF machine? RACFSMF already does that after it archives the file to the 192 disk. RACFSMF is designed to be autologged at the same time every day (e.g. midnight). Its behavior is governed by the settings in the PROFILE EXEC (SMFPROF EXEC). But, in general, an SMSG RACFVM SMF SWITCH causes RACF to close the active SMF log and detach the disk it is on. You have to look at the SMF CONTROL file on RACFVM's 191 in order to know which disk is CURRENT so you know which disk to go after. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
