Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community

2007-08-01 Thread Stephen Buckles
LPARING?

LPAR is now a verb (i.e. to LPAR or not to LPAR)?




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But isn't lparing a VM technology??
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Dave Jones wrote:
 And I suspect that these Linux servers will be hosted on z/VM..
This was just circulated internally, too, and I was extremely annoyed 
that z/VM wasn't mentioned (although I note that LPAR was touted as 
being IBM's premier virtualisation product - not that I have anything 
particularly against LPAR, but really...).

I'm trying to find out more.

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Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community

2007-08-01 Thread Ray Mansell

Dave Jones wrote:

And I suspect that these Linux servers will be hosted on z/VM..
This was just circulated internally, too, and I was extremely annoyed 
that z/VM wasn't mentioned (although I note that LPAR was touted as 
being IBM's premier virtualisation product - not that I have anything 
particularly against LPAR, but really...).


I'm trying to find out more.

Ray M


Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community

2007-08-01 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 8/1/07, Ray Mansell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  And I suspect that these Linux servers will be hosted on z/VM..
 This was just circulated internally, too, and I was extremely annoyed
 that z/VM wasn't mentioned (although I note that LPAR was touted as
 being IBM's premier virtualisation product - not that I have anything
 particularly against LPAR, but really...).

(nearly 4000) / 30   :  that's more than 60 I think


Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community

2007-08-01 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 08/01/2007 at 09:36 EDT, Ray Mansell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Dave Jones wrote:
  And I suspect that these Linux servers will be hosted on z/VM..
 This was just circulated internally, too, and I was extremely annoyed
 that z/VM wasn't mentioned (although I note that LPAR was touted as
 being IBM's premier virtualisation product - not that I have anything
 particularly against LPAR, but really...).
 
 I'm trying to find out more.

These will be deployed on z/VM.  The architects of this endeavor are 
working closely with the lab to ensure that the project is a success. 
(Just as our customers do!)

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community

2007-08-01 Thread Ray Mansell

Macioce, Larry wrote:

But isn't lparing a VM technology??
Larry
  
Yes - LPAR and z/VM share a common ancestor, and there's still some of 
my own code in LPAR from wy back, but these days they are very 
different beasts.


Ray M


Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community

2007-08-01 Thread August Carideo
Virtual machines is MF VM
VMware is like lparing
on the MF lparing did away for the need for VM at some shops instead of
running 3 virt machines under VM , run 3 lpars etc

where was the actual article ? I would like to show it to some management
here



   
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 And I suspect that these Linux servers will be hosted on z/VM..
This was just circulated internally, too, and I was extremely annoyed
that z/VM wasn't mentioned (although I note that LPAR was touted as
being IBM's premier virtualisation product - not that I have anything
particularly against LPAR, but really...).

I'm trying to find out more.

Ray M
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Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community

2007-08-01 Thread Dave Jones

August, the actual article can be found here:

http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/17998


August Carideo wrote:

Virtual machines is MF VM
VMware is like lparing
on the MF lparing did away for the need for VM at some shops instead of
running 3 virt machines under VM , run 3 lpars etc

where was the actual article ? I would like to show it to some management
here



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Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community

2007-08-01 Thread August Carideo
thank you
Augie



   
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August, the actual article can be found here:

http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/17998


August Carideo wrote:
 Virtual machines is MF VM
 VMware is like lparing
 on the MF lparing did away for the need for VM at some shops instead of
 running 3 virt machines under VM , run 3 lpars etc

 where was the actual article ? I would like to show it to some management
 here


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Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community

2007-08-01 Thread pfa
Hi Alan, 

Is there any chance IBM could possibly come out with an official 
announcement or publication indicating their $250M savings by 
consolidating to zSeries Linux?  That might be a good marketing tool. 
Sometimes we need to convince the uppers that this is a good way to go 
(I'm still trying to do that here!)   Every bit of fuel we can get 
helps!!!
 
Thank You.
Paul Adrian.




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On Wednesday, 08/01/2007 at 09:36 EDT, Ray Mansell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Dave Jones wrote:
  And I suspect that these Linux servers will be hosted on z/VM..
 This was just circulated internally, too, and I was extremely annoyed
 that z/VM wasn't mentioned (although I note that LPAR was touted as
 being IBM's premier virtualisation product - not that I have anything
 particularly against LPAR, but really...).
 
 I'm trying to find out more.

These will be deployed on z/VM.  The architects of this endeavor are 
working closely with the lab to ensure that the project is a success. 
(Just as our customers do!)

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott



Re: FW: IBM saves $250 million consolidating Linux servers on to mainframes | NetworkWorld.com Community

2007-08-01 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 08/01/2007 at 12:35 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there any chance IBM could possibly come out with an official 
announcement 
 or publication indicating their $250M savings by consolidating to 
zSeries 
 Linux?  That might be a good marketing tool.  Sometimes we need to 
convince 
 the uppers that this is a good way to go (I'm still trying to do that 
here!)   
 Every bit of fuel we can get helps!!! 

Good things come to those who wait.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott