Re: HCM/HCD from IOCP
No love! From the support center: Chapter 11 of the I/O Config. manual shows under 'Important Notice' that HLASM is required. There are no alternatives at this time. Thanks and Best Regards, Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 10:12 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HCM/HCD from IOCP On Friday, 11/05/2010 at 10:01 EDT, Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com wrote: Does your company have HLASM on any other System z O.S.? If so it would seem that you could send the file there, run HLASM on it, and send the results back to z/VM. Or... talk to your IBM rep or IBM business partner to see if IBM might HLASM this file for your one-time conversion effort. I seem to remember an IBM'er stating within the past few weeks that such was possible - check the IBMVM-L archives using the web browser version in place of e-mail. If you don't have that web site, it is: http://listserv.uark.edu/archives/ibmvm.html Your first step is to talk to the Support Center and, if needed, product management. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
Re: HCM/HCD from IOCP
On Tuesday, 11/16/2010 at 08:48 EST, Frank M. Ramaekers framaek...@ailife.com wrote: No love! From the support center: Chapter 11 of the I/O Config. manual shows under 'Important Notice' that HLASM is required. There are no alternatives at this time. I agree with the Support Center. The assembler is required in order to import an IOCP deck into HCD. So if you want the convenience of that, you buy the assembler. If you don't use HCD, you don't need the assembler. If you want to use HCD, but don't wish to import an existing IOCP deck, choosing to re-enter the data manually (eeeww!), then you don't need the assembler. I was trying (and failed, obviously...I am too subtle!) to make a point about hard dependencies. HLASM is not *required* to manage an I/O configuration, a basic hw management function. If it were, there would be grounds for serious complaint. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: HCM/HCD from IOCP
I agree with the Support Center. The assembler is required in order to import an IOCP deck into HCD. So if you want the convenience of that, you buy the assembler. If you don't use HCD, you don't need the assembler. If you want to use HCD, but don't wish to import an existing IOCP deck, choosing to re-enter the data manually (eeeww!), then you don't need the assembler. Thus clearly demonstrating how much more intelligent having the OS figure this kind of stuff out and worry about it on its own (ie the way CP does it) is over the IODF/HCD route. 8-)
Re: HCM/HCD from IOCP
When VM is using an IODF and MVS is on the box doesn't the changes show up in VM when the IODF is activated in HCD? I though the Dynamic commands in VM only needed to happen if you are using an IOCDS and IOCP to maintain the HW. When the Hardware Configuration(HAS) matches the loaded IOCDS and the SET IOCDS_ACTIVE Ax command is issued Then you get a good RC If they do not match then you get an error. Larry Davis From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of George Henke/NYLIC Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 3:17 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HCM/HCD from IOCP 1. Just get, via FTP, emulator upload, sneaker net, or whatever, the IOCP source from whoever maintains it, 2. Make your changes and send it back to them. 3. When they process it through HCD it will produce a production IODF file which can then be exported as a sequential file back to you. 4. Then you just load it onto you parm disk and follow the dynamic reconfig process given in SET IOCDS ACTIVE in CP COMMANDS. Frank M. Ramaekers framaek...@ailife.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/11/2010 03:00 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: HCM/HCD from IOCP 5. Can't do that, you don't actually get access to any source (that I can tell): 1HCD Time: 13:49 Date: 10-11-11 Page:1 z/VM 5.4.0 HCD 0(1) FILE=A1 IOCP A -Statement Orig Sev MsgidMessage Text 0E CBDD600I HLASM MODULE not found. -Total Messages Terminating Error Warning Informational 1 1 0Return Code was 8 Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 9:01 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HCM/HCD from IOCP Does your company have HLASM on any other System z O.S.? If so it would seem that you could send the file there, run HLASM on it, and send the results back to z/VM. Or... talk to your IBM rep or IBM business partner to see if IBM might HLASM this file for your one-time conversion effort. I seem to remember an IBM'er stating within the past few weeks that such was possible - check the IBMVM-L archives using the web browser version in place of e-mail. If you don't have that web site, it is: http://listserv.uark.edu/archives/ibmvm.html Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. Frank M. Ramaekers framaek...@ailife.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/05/2010 07:50 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject HCM/HCD from IOCP I want to convert my IOCP to HCM/HCD, but one of the requirements is HLASM, which I do not have and will not be able to convince management to purchase for a one time conversion. Options? TIA, Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76701 _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com. The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail. _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents
Re: HCM/HCD from IOCP
As an alternative, you can also use the Dignus System Assembler product in place of HLASM. Rick Barlow Nationwide Insurance. On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Frank M. Ramaekers framaek...@ailife.comwrote: I want to convert my IOCP to HCM/HCD, but one of the requirements is HLASM, which I do not have and will not be able to convince management to purchase for a one time conversion. Options? TIA, Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76701 _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
HCM/HCD from IOCP
I want to convert my IOCP to HCM/HCD, but one of the requirements is HLASM, which I do not have and will not be able to convince management to purchase for a one time conversion. Options? TIA, Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76701 _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
Re: HCM/HCD from IOCP
Does your company have HLASM on any other System z O.S.? If so it would seem that you could send the file there, run HLASM on it, and send the results back to z/VM. Or... talk to your IBM rep or IBM business partner to see if IBM might HLASM this file for your one-time conversion effort. I seem to remember an IBM'er stating within the past few weeks that such was possible - check the IBMVM-L archives using the web browser version in place of e-mail. If you don't have that web site, it is: http://listserv.uark.edu/archives/ibmvm.html Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. Frank M. Ramaekers framaek...@ailife.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/05/2010 07:50 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject HCM/HCD from IOCP I want to convert my IOCP to HCM/HCD, but one of the requirements is HLASM, which I do not have and will not be able to convince management to purchase for a one time conversion. Options? TIA, Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76701 _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com. The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail.
Re: HCM/HCD from IOCP
Yes, we have it on z/VSE 4.2. Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 9:01 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HCM/HCD from IOCP Does your company have HLASM on any other System z O.S.? If so it would seem that you could send the file there, run HLASM on it, and send the results back to z/VM. Or... talk to your IBM rep or IBM business partner to see if IBM might HLASM this file for your one-time conversion effort. I seem to remember an IBM'er stating within the past few weeks that such was possible - check the IBMVM-L archives using the web browser version in place of e-mail. If you don't have that web site, it is: http://listserv.uark.edu/archives/ibmvm.html Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. Frank M. Ramaekers framaek...@ailife.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/05/2010 07:50 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject HCM/HCD from IOCP I want to convert my IOCP to HCM/HCD, but one of the requirements is HLASM, which I do not have and will not be able to convince management to purchase for a one time conversion. Options? TIA, Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76701 _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com. The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail. _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
Re: HCM/HCD from IOCP
On Friday, 11/05/2010 at 10:01 EDT, Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com wrote: Does your company have HLASM on any other System z O.S.? If so it would seem that you could send the file there, run HLASM on it, and send the results back to z/VM. Or... talk to your IBM rep or IBM business partner to see if IBM might HLASM this file for your one-time conversion effort. I seem to remember an IBM'er stating within the past few weeks that such was possible - check the IBMVM-L archives using the web browser version in place of e-mail. If you don't have that web site, it is: http://listserv.uark.edu/archives/ibmvm.html Your first step is to talk to the Support Center and, if needed, product management. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott
Re: HCM/HCD from IOCP
Frank: If you have LPARs zOS and zVM you can use only one zOS version of HCD/HCM. Only one LPAR must be a IOCDS' owner at a time. With more than one CEC, only one HCM can export the several IOCPs to the others zOS images. The zVM images respect the IOCP changes made by zOS (it acts as plug-and-play)... __ Clovis | | From: | | --| |Frank M. Ramaekers framaek...@ailife.com | --| | | To:| | --| |IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU | --| | | Date: | | --| |05/11/2010 12:59 | --| | | Subject: | | --| |Re: HCM/HCD from IOCP | --| | | Sent by: | | --| |The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU | --| Yes, we have it on z/VSE 4.2. Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 9:01 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HCM/HCD from IOCP Does your company have HLASM on any other System z O.S.? If so it would seem that you could send the file there, run HLASM on it, and send the results back to z/VM. Or... talk to your IBM rep or IBM business partner to see if IBM might HLASM this file for your one-time conversion effort. I seem to remember an IBM'er stating within the past few weeks that such was possible - check the IBMVM-L archives using the web browser version in place of e-mail. If you don't have that web site, it is: http://listserv.uark.edu/archives/ibmvm.html Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. Frank M. Ramaekers framaek...@ailife.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/05/2010 07:50 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject HCM/HCD from IOCP I want to convert my IOCP to HCM/HCD, but one of the requirements is HLASM, which I do not have and will not be able to convince management to purchase for a one time conversion. Options? TIA, Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76701 _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com. The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential
Re: HCM/HCD from IOCP
the power-on reset. You would not have to remember what you did or keep a record because your changes are safe in the active IOCDS file. Notices | Terms of use | Support | Contact z/VM URL: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zvm/v5r4/topic/com.ibm.zvm.v54.hcpe2/hcsg1b30214.htm#wq631 Copyright IBM Corporation 1990, 2008 This information center is Built on Eclipse™ ( www.eclipse.org ). Frank M. Ramaekers framaek...@ailife.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/05/2010 10:59 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: HCM/HCD from IOCP Yes, we have it on z/VSE 4.2. Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 9:01 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: HCM/HCD from IOCP Does your company have HLASM on any other System z O.S.? If so it would seem that you could send the file there, run HLASM on it, and send the results back to z/VM. Or... talk to your IBM rep or IBM business partner to see if IBM might HLASM this file for your one-time conversion effort. I seem to remember an IBM'er stating within the past few weeks that such was possible - check the IBMVM-L archives using the web browser version in place of e-mail. If you don't have that web site, it is: http://listserv.uark.edu/archives/ibmvm.html Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. Frank M. Ramaekers framaek...@ailife.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/05/2010 07:50 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject HCM/HCD from IOCP I want to convert my IOCP to HCM/HCD, but one of the requirements is HLASM, which I do not have and will not be able to convince management to purchase for a one time conversion. Options? TIA, Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76701 _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com. The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail. _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
