Re: How to manage multiple LPARs without RSCS

2010-06-25 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Rick Barlow  wrote:

> Does anyone have a method they use to manage multiple z/VM LPARs from a
> single point without the benefit of RSCS for NJE connections?  We have
> always had RSCS and used PROP or VM:Operator with a single logical operator
> being able to interact  with groups or all of the LPARs.  There is some
> question whether will want to keep licensing RSCS.

With a few FICON chpids you can do ISFC which lets you do IUCV between
systems. Don't have to go for full CSE, just need a single authoritive
domain for the LPARs. That will let you share data via SFS, do
cross-system messages with CMS Pipelines, and even look at ESAMON data
from the other systems.

If you can't afford the CTC's, current IPGATE version can at least do
the SFS part. This can even do userid mapping if you need.

Rob


Re: How to manage multiple LPARs without RSCS

2010-06-25 Thread Kris Buelens
You can also use the CMS multitasking IPC queues and create a rexx server.
I used a sample of Brian Wade, and I guess it is still available on the VM
website.  You'd also need the TCP/IP drivers for x-system access to the IPC
queues, IIRC this driver is on VM's download pages.

2010/6/24 Mark Wheeler 

>  Rick,
>
> If you're moving files with SENDFILE, have you implemented UFTD? You can
> then issue
> SENDFILE MY FILE A TO user...@vm1.myco.com (UFTSYNC NETDATA
>
> I can't say this will help with VM:Operator, but it looks like JR pointed
> out a possible solution in another reply.
>
> Mark Wheeler
> UnitedHealth Group
>
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> From: rrhbar...@gmail.com
>
> Subject: How to manage multiple LPARs without RSCS
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
>
> Does anyone have a method they use to manage multiple z/VM LPARs from a
> single point without the benefit of RSCS for NJE connections?  We have
> always had RSCS and used PROP or VM:Operator with a single logical operator
> being able to interact  with groups or all of the LPARs.  There is some
> question whether will want to keep licensing RSCS.
>
> Rick
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Re: How to manage multiple LPARs without RSCS

2010-06-24 Thread Mark Wheeler

Rick,

 

If you're moving files with SENDFILE, have you implemented UFTD? You can then 
issue

SENDFILE MY FILE A TO user...@vm1.myco.com (UFTSYNC NETDATA

 

I can't say this will help with VM:Operator, but it looks like JR pointed out a 
possible solution in another reply.

 

Mark Wheeler

UnitedHealth Group  
 


Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 08:18:06 -0400
From: rrhbar...@gmail.com
Subject: How to manage multiple LPARs without RSCS
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU

Does anyone have a method they use to manage multiple z/VM LPARs from a single 
point without the benefit of RSCS for NJE connections?  We have always had RSCS 
and used PROP or VM:Operator with a single logical operator being able to 
interact  with groups or all of the LPARs.  There is some question whether will 
want to keep licensing RSCS.

Rick
  
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Re: How to manage multiple LPARs without RSCS

2010-06-24 Thread Imler, Steven J
If you have VM:Operator, version 3.0 added the RVS feature that supports
this using TCPIP.

 

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CA 
Sr Sustaining Engineer
Tel:  +1-703-708-3479
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Subject: How to manage multiple LPARs without RSCS

 

Does anyone have a method they use to manage multiple z/VM LPARs from a
single point without the benefit of RSCS for NJE connections?  We have
always had RSCS and used PROP or VM:Operator with a single logical
operator being able to interact  with groups or all of the LPARs.  There
is some question whether will want to keep licensing RSCS.

Rick



How to manage multiple LPARs without RSCS

2010-06-24 Thread Rick Barlow
Does anyone have a method they use to manage multiple z/VM LPARs from a
single point without the benefit of RSCS for NJE connections?  We have
always had RSCS and used PROP or VM:Operator with a single logical operator
being able to interact  with groups or all of the LPARs.  There is some
question whether will want to keep licensing RSCS.

Rick