Re: I know it's dumb, but.......
Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In other references, I think that it is deprecated instead of depreciated. To disapprove is somewhat different than to reduce in value or esteem. In regard to Phil's reference to SI, I think they carefully specify that their definitions apply only to the powers of 10. They have pushed the idea of inserting a BI in the prefix for the binary prefixes. That makes it a real bummer to try to pronounce something like gibigabyte, which is one of the easier ones. I have a difficult enough time with English, let alone the munged Greek prefixes Actually, the currently common usage of deprecate to mean disparage is relatively new; depreciate is at least as correct. See http://www.answers.com/deprecate, which says in part: The first and fully accepted meaning of deprecate is to express disapproval of. But the word has steadily encroached on the meaning of depreciate. It is now used, almost to the exclusion of depreciate, in the sense to belittle or mildly disparage, as in 'He deprecated his own contribution.' This shows up in the common term self-deprecating, which really should be self-depreciating; however, as the page notes, this usage has become so common that it's essentially standard now. My dad once asked the dean of the English department at a major university about it, and he had no problem with self-deprecating -- until my dad pointed out the misuse. ...phsiii (OK, now has this topic drifted far enough?)
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Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am neither Greek nor a scholar, but your explanation is as described = in any reference I have found. Now, what is the origin of the prefix = yotta? How did octo get morphed to yotta? At least the derivation = of exa from hexa is fairly easy to see. Well, I'm 1/4 Greek (ask me at SHARE and I'll show you which quarter, if I like ya!), and I found this (at http://www.sizes.com/units/yotta.htm): In SI, the decimal multiplier prefix indicating 1024 of the unit to which it is prefixed. Symbol, Y. The name comes from octo, the Latin word for eight, because the prefix represents 103 to the eighth power. The y was added to avoid using the letter o as a symbol, because it might be confused with the numeral for zero. That makes more sense when you realize they mean as in YB (like KB, MB, GB), rather than that someone would confuse octobyte with 0ctobyte (0ct0byte?). Not sure I buy this -- could be a folk etymology. But it's as plausible as any, I guess. ...phsiii (who thinks the real origin is, That's a whole yotta bytes!)
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How one pronounces those URLs is left as an exercise for the reader (and the speaker's tongue). ;-) The 5(five) characters preceding the .HTML looks like something Bill the Cat would say. Steve G. would say. Mike Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 10/05/2006 04:35 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc: Subject:Re: I know it's dumb, but... Thanks, Doug. Then you may want to google ekabytes for the others (they only turn up on VM pubs, some may be unsupported)) and fix them, too. I found only four. Your Search Engine May Vary. http://204.146.134.18/pubs/cp31064/ZSBBK.HTML http://www.vm.ibm.com/pubs/cp43032/ZSBBK.HTML http://204.146.134.18/pubs/cp510/ASCBK.HTML http://www.vm.ibm.com/pubs/cp31064/ASCBK.HTML How one pronounces those URLs is left as an exercise for the reader (and the speaker's tongue). ;-) Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. Doug Breneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 10/05/2006 04:17 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: I know it's dumb, but... I can confirm that eka is a typo in the Planning and Admin book and should be exa. The VM Information Team will be notified, and this book will be corrected. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. In addtion, on February 23, 2005, Gerard Schildberger added an append that lists some prefixes from deca 10**1 to ukekta 10**36. BTW, Gerard spelled exa correctly. Doug Breneman IBM Development Endicott, New York Thursday, October 05, 2006 2:51 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc: From: Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: I know it's dumb, but... I am neither Greek nor a scholar, but your explanation is as described in any reference I have found. Now, what is the origin of the prefix yotta? How did octo get morphed to yotta? At least the derivation of exa from hexa is fairly easy to see. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:20 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: I know it's dumb, but... On Thursday, 10/05/2006 at 02:04 AST, Parmelee, Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don?t mean to impose on all of the ?work related? discussions here, but. I have this hang up about pronunciation. I know, it?s a personal thing.. On pg 44 of z/VM CP Planning and Administration SC24-6083-03, there is a term Ekabytes. I would like to know how to pronounce it. Is it Eck as in a short e, or Eeeeak as with a long E People always like to set me straight, and this time I would appreciate it. I *think* that's a misspelling. The word is exabytes. Given its origin in the Greek hexa (exa is 10^6), the pronounciation should be eksa, not eka. But I leave it to the Greek scholars among us to confirm. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited.
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I cannot take credit for this information. It was appended by Gerard. Here is his append: preceeded/followed by (not all of which are recognized by some countries and some have been depreciated): deka or deca D or Dk 10** 1 hectoH 10** 2 kilo K 10** 3 myriaMy 10** 4 mega M 10** 6 giga G 10** 9 tera T 10**12 peta P 10**15 exa E 10**18 zettaZ 10**21 yottaY 10**24 xentaX 10**27 wektaW 10**30 vendeka V 10**33 ukekta U 10**36 ___Gerard S. I have searched the rest of the z/VM libray for 'eka' and find nooccurrences of it except in the CP Plan and Admin book. I also searched the code library and found three occurrences. I have notified the module owners of these parts, but it is relatively low on their list of things to do right now. Doug Breneman z/VM Development Endicott, NY Thursday, October 05, 2006 6:14 PMTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUcc: From: "Schuh, Richard" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: I know it's dumb, but... Whence "ukekta"? Google finds lots of references to other prefixes, but only the one you mentioned for ukekta. regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message-From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Doug BrenemanSent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 2:18 PMTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUSubject: Re: I know it's dumb, but... I can confirm that eka is a typo in the Planning and Admin book and should be exa. The VM Information Team will be notified, and this book will be corrected. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.In addtion, on February 23, 2005, Gerard Schildberger added an append that lists some prefixes from deca 10**1 to ukekta 10**36. BTW, Gerard spelled exa correctly.Doug Breneman IBM Development Endicott, New YorkThursday, October 05, 2006 2:51 PMTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUcc: From: "Schuh, Richard" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: I know it's dumb, but...I am neither Greek nor a scholar, but your explanation is as described in any reference I have found. Now, what is the origin of the prefix "yotta"? How did "octo" get morphed to "yotta"? At least the derivation of "exa" from "hexa" is fairly easy to see.Regards,Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU]On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:20 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: I know it's dumb, but... On Thursday, 10/05/2006 at 02:04 AST, "Parmelee, Phil" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don?t mean to impose on all of the ?work related? discussions here, but. I have this hang up about pronunciation. I know, it?s a personal thing.. On pg 44 of z/VM CP Planning and Administration SC24-6083-03, there is a term Ekabytes. I would like to know how to pronounce it. Is it Eck as in a short e, or Eeeeak as with a long E People always like to set me straight, and this time I would appreciate it. I *think* that's a misspelling. The word is "exabytes". Given its origin in the Greek "hexa" (exa is 10^6), the pronounciation should be "eksa", not "eka". But I leave it to the Greek scholars among us to confirm. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: I know it's dumb, but.......
In other
references, I think that it is "deprecated" instead of "depreciated". To
disapprove is somewhat different than to reduce in value or esteem. In regard to
Phil's reference to SI, I think they carefully specify that their definitions
apply only to the powers of 10. They have pushed the idea of inserting a "BI" in
the prefix for the binary prefixes. That makes it a real bummer to try to
pronounce something likegibigabyte, which is one of the easier ones. I
have a difficult enough time with English, let alone the munged Greek prefixes
:-)
Regards, Richard Schuh
-Original Message-From: The IBM z/VM Operating
System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Doug
BrenemanSent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:41 AMTo:
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUSubject: Re: I know it's dumb,
but...
I cannot take credit for this information. It was appended by
Gerard. Here is his append:
preceeded/followed by (not all of which are recognized by some
countries and some have been depreciated):
deka or deca D or Dk 10** 1
hectoH 10** 2
kilo K 10** 3
myriaMy 10** 4
mega M 10** 6
giga G 10** 9
tera T 10**12
peta P 10**15
exa E 10**18
zettaZ 10**21
yottaY 10**24
xentaX 10**27
wektaW 10**30
vendeka V 10**33
ukekta U 10**36
___Gerard S.
I have searched the rest of the z/VM libray for 'eka' and find
nooccurrences of it except in the CP Plan and Admin book. I also
searched the code library and found three occurrences. I have notified
the module owners of these parts, but it is relatively low on their list of
things to do right now.
Doug Breneman z/VM Development Endicott, NY
Thursday, October 05, 2006 6:14 PMTo:
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUcc: From: "Schuh, Richard"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: I know it's dumb,
but...
Whence
"ukekta"? Google finds lots of references to other prefixes, but only the one
you mentioned for ukekta.
regards, Richard Schuh
-Original Message-From: The IBM z/VM Operating
System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Doug
BrenemanSent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 2:18 PMTo:
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUSubject: Re: I know it's dumb,
but...
I can confirm that eka is a typo in the
Planning and Admin book and should be exa. The VM Information Team will be
notified, and this book will be corrected. Thank you for bringing this to
our attention.In addtion, on
February 23, 2005, Gerard Schildberger added an append that lists some
prefixes from deca 10**1 to ukekta 10**36. BTW, Gerard spelled exa
correctly.Doug Breneman IBM
Development Endicott, New YorkThursday, October 05, 2006 2:51 PMTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUcc: From: "Schuh,
Richard" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: I know it's dumb,
but...I am neither Greek
nor a scholar, but your explanation is as described in any reference I have
found. Now, what is the origin of the prefix "yotta"? How did "octo" get
morphed to "yotta"? At least the derivation of "exa" from "hexa" is fairly
easy to see.Regards,Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU]On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:20
AM To:
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re:
I know it's dumb, but... On Thursday,
10/05/2006 at 02:04 AST, "Parmelee, Phil" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: I don?t mean to impose
on all of the ?work related?
discussions here,
but. I have this hang up about pronunciation. I
know, it?s a personal
thing.. On pg 44 of z/VM CP Planning and
Administration SC24-6083-03, there
is a term Ekabytes. I
would like to know how to pronounce it. Is it Eck as in a short e, or
Eeeeak as with a long
E People always like to set me straight, and this
time I would
appreciate it. I *think*
that's a misspelling. The word is "exabytes". Given its origin in the Greek "hexa" (exa is 10^6), the
pronounciation should be
"eksa", not "eka". But I leave it to
the Greek scholars among us to confirm. Alan
Altmark z/VM
Development IBM
Endicott
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Some Wikipedia articles relevant to this conversation: SI Prefixes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SI_prefix Non-SI Prefixes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-SI_unit_prefix Regards, Miguel Delapaz z/VM TCP/IP Development
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On 10/6/06, Miguel Delapaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Non-SI Prefixes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-SI_unit_prefix Most of these also seem also in use as prefix in various diseases... Good thing they have a lot of spare ones. :soapbox. I am a little concerned that there still is the discrepancy between 1000^n and 1024^n depending on the context. While we could get away with this when n was 1, now that we're at n=3 the error is significant when you confuse them. At one point I believe people declared that in disk storage context a GB would mean 1000^3 where in memory it is 1024^3. I think that's silly. So how about virtual memory and paging? When we get to Exabytes the difference is as much as between an 3390 on MVS and on VM. Rob
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I always thought that 1024^n was right (powers of two and all that) and that hard drive manufactures choose 1000^n to make their wares look that much larger... Tom Rae Senior Director, Technical Services Western Canada Loblaw Companies Limited Information Systems Division Notice: This e-mail transmission may contain confidential, proprietary and/or legally privileged information and is intended only for the individual or entity named in the e-mail address. Any disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance upon the contents of this e-mail not authorized by the sender is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail transmission in error, please immediately reply to the sender, so that proper delivery of the e-mail can be effected, and then please delete the message from your Inbox. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Miguel Delapaz Sent: October 6, 2006 15:26 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: I know it's dumb, but... Yes, terribly silly. Also, OSes generally express file size in 1024^n which can be confusing when determining how many files you can cram on a disk with capacity 1000^n. Have fun trying to get everyone to change though :-) 1000^n is obviously right...but who wants to go and make up different terms when we're only off by 24? :-) More wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megabyte Regards, Miguel Delapaz z/VM TCP/IP
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Well, right depends on your perspective. I was speaking of right in terms of the general SI prefix standards. 1024^n was/is used to simplify our lives because we (computers) deal with powers of 2. Regards, Miguel Delapaz z/VM TCP/IP Development The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on 10/06/2006 02:45:57 PM: I always thought that 1024^n was right (powers of two and all that) and that hard drive manufactures choose 1000^n to make their wares look that much larger... Tom Rae
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If you stop o think about it, the use of theprefixes for decimal numbers predated the use for binaries by a long time. I doubt that you will find the usage for 1024^n until the second half of the 20th century. It is the 1024^n that is the latecomer to the party. In that sense, you are correct in stating that it is "right". The SI folks have made a concession by saying that it is OK to use the prefixes for 1024^n numbers other than computer memory and clock speeds as long as you state your usage ahead of time. I hope that ends the silly insertion of BI into the prefixes. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message-From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Miguel DelapazSent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:26 PMTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUSubject: Re: I know it's dumb, but...Yes, terribly silly. Also, OSes generally express file size in 1024^n which can be confusing when determining how many files you can cram on a disk with capacity 1000^n. Have fun trying to get everyone to change though :-) 1000^n is obviously "right"...but who wants to go and make up different terms when we're "only" off by 24? :-) More wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megabyte Regards,Miguel Delapazz/VM TCP/IP Development The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on 10/06/2006 02:09:41 PM: :soapbox. I am a little concerned that there still is the discrepancy between 1000^n and 1024^n depending on the context. While we could get away with this when n was 1, now that we're at n=3 the error is significant when you confuse them. At one point I believe people declared that in disk storage context a GB would mean 1000^3 where in memory it is 1024^3. I think that's silly. So how about virtual memory and paging? When we get to Exabytes the difference is as much as between an 3390 on MVS and on VM. Rob
I know it's dumb, but.......
I dont mean to impose on all of the work related discussions here, but. I have this hang up about pronunciation. I know, its a personal thing.. On pg 44 of z/VM CP Planning and Administration SC24-6083-03, there is a term Ekabytes. I would like to know how to pronounce it. Is it Eck as in a short e, or Eeeeak as with a long E People always like to set me straight, and this time I would appreciate it. Thank you, Phil Parmelee City of Grand Rapids, Mi. Desk: (616) 456-4286 Cell: (616) 304-6917 * This message has been prepared on resources owned by the City of Grand Rapids, MI. It is subject to the Acceptable Use Policy and Procedures of the City of Grand Rapids. The information contained herein is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access by any other party is unauthorized without the express written permission of the sender. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete this message. *
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On Thursday, 10/05/2006 at 02:04 AST, Parmelee, Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don?t mean to impose on all of the ?work related? discussions here, but. I have this hang up about pronunciation. I know, it?s a personal thing.. On pg 44 of z/VM CP Planning and Administration SC24-6083-03, there is a term Ekabytes. I would like to know how to pronounce it. Is it Eck as in a short e, or Eeeeak as with a long E People always like to set me straight, and this time I would appreciate it. I *think* that's a misspelling. The word is exabytes. Given its origin in the Greek hexa (exa is 10^6), the pronounciation should be eksa, not eka. But I leave it to the Greek scholars among us to confirm. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: I know it's dumb, but.......
You can probably pronounce Ekabytes in whatever way VM Development wants it pronounced (ask Chuckie). :-) After a very brief search it seems that the non-VM world (you know: the great unwashed) uses the term Exabytes rather than Ekabytes. I'll be delighted to be proven wrong. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates LLC The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited.
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Title: RE: I know it's dumb, but... This won't help you pronounce it but it'll give you some idea of what to ask for in your next raise. http://www2.sims.berkeley.edu/research/projects/how-much-info/datapowers.html -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU]On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 1:20 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: I know it's dumb, but... On Thursday, 10/05/2006 at 02:04 AST, Parmelee, Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don?t mean to impose on all of the ?work related? discussions here, but. I have this hang up about pronunciation. I know, it?s a personal thing.. On pg 44 of z/VM CP Planning and Administration SC24-6083-03, there is a term Ekabytes. I would like to know how to pronounce it. Is it Eck as in a short e, or Eeeeak as with a long E People always like to set me straight, and this time I would appreciate it. I *think* that's a misspelling. The word is exabytes. Given its origin in the Greek hexa (exa is 10^6), the pronounciation should be eksa, not eka. But I leave it to the Greek scholars among us to confirm. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott __ ella for Spam Control has removed VSE-List messages and set aside VM-List for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! http://www.ellaforspam.com
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On 10/5/06, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I *think* that's a misspelling. The word is exabytes. Given its origin in the Greek hexa (exa is 10^6), the pronounciation should be eksa, not eka. But I leave it to the Greek scholars among us to confirm. Uh, I think exabyte is 2^60 (or 10^18) - or 1000^6 if you like the hexa It's a lot, so I think I would like eeeks-a-byte as well, but I fear that will be similar to gigglebyte (the size of virtual servers that makes me laugh). Rob
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I am neither Greek nor a scholar, but your explanation is as described in any reference I have found. Now, what is the origin of the prefix yotta? How did octo get morphed to yotta? At least the derivation of exa from hexa is fairly easy to see. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:20 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: I know it's dumb, but... On Thursday, 10/05/2006 at 02:04 AST, Parmelee, Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don?t mean to impose on all of the ?work related? discussions here, but. I have this hang up about pronunciation. I know, it?s a personal thing.. On pg 44 of z/VM CP Planning and Administration SC24-6083-03, there is a term Ekabytes. I would like to know how to pronounce it. Is it Eck as in a short e, or Eeeeak as with a long E People always like to set me straight, and this time I would appreciate it. I *think* that's a misspelling. The word is exabytes. Given its origin in the Greek hexa (exa is 10^6), the pronounciation should be eksa, not eka. But I leave it to the Greek scholars among us to confirm. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
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I can confirm that eka is a typo in the Planning and Admin book and should be exa. The VM Information Team will be notified, and this book will be corrected. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. In addtion, on February 23, 2005, Gerard Schildberger added an append that lists some prefixes from deca 10**1 to ukekta 10**36. BTW, Gerard spelled exa correctly. Doug Breneman IBM Development Endicott, New York Thursday, October 05, 2006 2:51 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc: From: Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: I know it's dumb, but... I am neither Greek nor a scholar, but your explanation is as described in any reference I have found. Now, what is the origin of the prefix yotta? How did octo get morphed to yotta? At least the derivation of exa from hexa is fairly easy to see. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU]On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:20 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: I know it's dumb, but... On Thursday, 10/05/2006 at 02:04 AST, Parmelee, Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don?t mean to impose on all of the ?work related? discussions here, but. I have this hang up about pronunciation. I know, it?s a personal thing.. On pg 44 of z/VM CP Planning and Administration SC24-6083-03, there is a term Ekabytes. I would like to know how to pronounce it. Is it Eck as in a short e, or Eeeeak as with a long E People always like to set me straight, and this time I would appreciate it. I *think* that's a misspelling. The word is exabytes. Given its origin in the Greek hexa (exa is 10^6), the pronounciation should be eksa, not eka. But I leave it to the Greek scholars among us to confirm. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
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Thanks, Doug. Then you may want to google ekabytes for the others (they only turn up on VM pubs, some may be unsupported)) and fix them, too. I found only four. Your Search Engine May Vary. http://204.146.134.18/pubs/cp31064/ZSBBK.HTML http://www.vm.ibm.com/pubs/cp43032/ZSBBK.HTML http://204.146.134.18/pubs/cp510/ASCBK.HTML http://www.vm.ibm.com/pubs/cp31064/ASCBK.HTML How one pronounces those URLs is left as an exercise for the reader (and the speaker's tongue). ;-) Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. Doug Breneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 10/05/2006 04:17 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: I know it's dumb, but... I can confirm that eka is a typo in the Planning and Admin book and should be exa. The VM Information Team will be notified, and this book will be corrected. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. In addtion, on February 23, 2005, Gerard Schildberger added an append that lists some prefixes from deca 10**1 to ukekta 10**36. BTW, Gerard spelled exa correctly. Doug Breneman IBM Development Endicott, New York Thursday, October 05, 2006 2:51 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc: From: Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: I know it's dumb, but... I am neither Greek nor a scholar, but your explanation is as described in any reference I have found. Now, what is the origin of the prefix yotta? How did octo get morphed to yotta? At least the derivation of exa from hexa is fairly easy to see. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:20 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: I know it's dumb, but... On Thursday, 10/05/2006 at 02:04 AST, Parmelee, Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don?t mean to impose on all of the ?work related? discussions here, but. I have this hang up about pronunciation. I know, it?s a personal thing.. On pg 44 of z/VM CP Planning and Administration SC24-6083-03, there is a term Ekabytes. I would like to know how to pronounce it. Is it Eck as in a short e, or Eeeeak as with a long E People always like to set me straight, and this time I would appreciate it. I *think* that's a misspelling. The word is exabytes. Given its origin in the Greek hexa (exa is 10^6), the pronounciation should be eksa, not eka. But I leave it to the Greek scholars among us to confirm. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited.
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Whence "ukekta"? Google finds lots of references to other prefixes, but only the one you mentioned for ukekta. regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message-From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Doug BrenemanSent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 2:18 PMTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUSubject: Re: I know it's dumb, but... I can confirm that eka is a typo in the Planning and Admin book and should be exa. The VM Information Team will be notified, and this book will be corrected. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.In addtion, on February 23, 2005, Gerard Schildberger added an append that lists some prefixes from deca 10**1 to ukekta 10**36. BTW, Gerard spelled exa correctly.Doug Breneman IBM Development Endicott, New YorkThursday, October 05, 2006 2:51 PMTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUcc: From: "Schuh, Richard" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: I know it's dumb, but...I am neither Greek nor a scholar, but your explanation is as described in any reference I have found. Now, what is the origin of the prefix "yotta"? How did "octo" get morphed to "yotta"? At least the derivation of "exa" from "hexa" is fairly easy to see.Regards,Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU]On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:20 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: I know it's dumb, but... On Thursday, 10/05/2006 at 02:04 AST, "Parmelee, Phil" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don?t mean to impose on all of the ?work related? discussions here, but. I have this hang up about pronunciation. I know, it?s a personal thing.. On pg 44 of z/VM CP Planning and Administration SC24-6083-03, there is a term Ekabytes. I would like to know how to pronounce it. Is it Eck as in a short e, or Eeeeak as with a long E People always like to set me straight, and this time I would appreciate it. I *think* that's a misspelling. The word is "exabytes". Given its origin in the Greek "hexa" (exa is 10^6), the pronounciation should be "eksa", not "eka". But I leave it to the Greek scholars among us to confirm. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
