IPL VM guest to virtual SYSG?

2010-04-09 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
On z/VM 5.3 I'm trying to IPL a guest z/VM to the guest's emulated integrated 
3270 device (SYSG) but not succeeding.
From the guest's logon console I do:

cp terminal conmode 3215
cp terminal sys3270 on
cp ipl 460a loadparm sysg

which gives me a VM READ
instead of the expected SAPL screen where I'd enter cons=sysg and PF10 to IPL 
VM to sysg

Thought I'd done this successfully years ago, but maybe not.
Am I doing this incorrectly?

John Romanowski
z/VM Support
NYS CIO/Office for Technology
(518)485-9555



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Re: IPL VM guest to virtual SYSG?

2010-04-09 Thread Kris Buelens
Just a thought:
Maybe you IPLed CMS first and run with SET CONCEAL ON: the TERM SYS3270 ON
kills CMS but CONCEAL ON makes CP to reIPL it
P.S. if your only override on SAPL is to enter CONS=SYSG, you can do it at
once:
IPL 460A LOADPARM CONSSYSG

2010/4/9 Romanowski, John (OFT) john.romanow...@cio.ny.gov

 On z/VM 5.3 I'm trying to IPL a guest z/VM to the guest's emulated
 integrated 3270 device (SYSG) but not succeeding.
 From the guest's logon console I do:

 cp terminal conmode 3215
 cp terminal sys3270 on
 cp ipl 460a loadparm sysg

 which gives me a VM READ
 instead of the expected SAPL screen where I'd enter cons=sysg and PF10 to
 IPL VM to sysg

 Thought I'd done this successfully years ago, but maybe not.
 Am I doing this incorrectly?

 John Romanowski
 z/VM Support
 NYS CIO/Office for Technology
 (518)485-9555



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Re: IPL VM guest to virtual SYSG?

2010-04-09 Thread Richard Troth
Use 'term conmode 3270'.





On 2010-04-09, Romanowski, John (OFT) john.romanow...@cio.ny.gov wrote:
 On z/VM 5.3 I'm trying to IPL a guest z/VM to the guest's emulated
 integrated 3270 device (SYSG) but not succeeding.
 From the guest's logon console I do:

 cp terminal conmode 3215
 cp terminal sys3270 on
 cp ipl 460a loadparm sysg

 which gives me a VM READ
 instead of the expected SAPL screen where I'd enter cons=sysg and PF10 to
 IPL VM to sysg

 Thought I'd done this successfully years ago, but maybe not.
 Am I doing this incorrectly?

 John Romanowski
 z/VM Support
 NYS CIO/Office for Technology
 (518)485-9555



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Re: IPL VM guest to virtual SYSG?

2010-04-09 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
Thanks,  I didn't do CMS SET CONCEAL ON, but I was in CMS when I did cp 
terminal sys3270 on
I started with the guest logged off, did LOGON, cp terminal, etc

In any event, after a few more trys of CP IPL .. the guest's been in 
LOGOFF/FORCE pending for 2 hours and looking thru the list archives I'm luckier 
than this guy in Feb 2006 who got PRG004 trying IPL to SYSG:


 I tried using SYS3270 and I abended our z/VM 5.1 system. Maybe I didn't set
it up properly but I didn't think it would cause a PRG004. I have a console
set to TERM CONMODE 3270 and SYS3270 ON. I do an IPL 6528 CLEAR LOADP SYSG.
I do not get a SALIPL screen only a VM read. Then the first level VM system
crashes with PRG004. I am doing this on a z/900 in native mode (no LPARs).
Should this work?

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Kris Buelens
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 1:04 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: IPL VM guest to virtual SYSG?

Just a thought:
Maybe you IPLed CMS first and run with SET CONCEAL ON: the TERM SYS3270 ON 
kills CMS but CONCEAL ON makes CP to reIPL it
P.S. if your only override on SAPL is to enter CONS=SYSG, you can do it at once:
IPL 460A LOADPARM CONSSYSG
2010/4/9 Romanowski, John (OFT) 
john.romanow...@cio.ny.govmailto:john.romanow...@cio.ny.gov
On z/VM 5.3 I'm trying to IPL a guest z/VM to the guest's emulated integrated 
3270 device (SYSG) but not succeeding.
From the guest's logon console I do:

cp terminal conmode 3215
cp terminal sys3270 on
cp ipl 460a loadparm sysg

which gives me a VM READ
instead of the expected SAPL screen where I'd enter cons=sysg and PF10 to IPL 
VM to sysg

Thought I'd done this successfully years ago, but maybe not.
Am I doing this incorrectly?

John Romanowski
z/VM Support
NYS CIO/Office for Technology
(518)485-9555



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Re: IPL VM guest to virtual SYSG?

2010-04-09 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
I normally use conmode 3270 for the IPL but I wanted to experiment with sys3270 
and they're incompatible settings

 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
 Behalf Of Richard Troth
 Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 1:16 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: IPL VM guest to virtual SYSG?

 Use 'term conmode 3270'.





 On 2010-04-09, Romanowski, John (OFT) john.romanow...@cio.ny.gov
 wrote:
  On z/VM 5.3 I'm trying to IPL a guest z/VM to the guest's emulated
  integrated 3270 device (SYSG) but not succeeding.
  From the guest's logon console I do:
 
  cp terminal conmode 3215
  cp terminal sys3270 on
  cp ipl 460a loadparm sysg
 
  which gives me a VM READ
  instead of the expected SAPL screen where I'd enter cons=sysg and
 PF10 to
  IPL VM to sysg
 
  Thought I'd done this successfully years ago, but maybe not.
  Am I doing this incorrectly?
 
  John Romanowski
  z/VM Support
  NYS CIO/Office for Technology
  (518)485-9555
 
 
 
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Re: IPL VM guest to virtual SYSG?

2010-04-09 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 04/09/2010 at 01:15 EDT, Richard Troth vmcow...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 Use 'term conmode 3270'.

TERMINAL CONMODE 3270 and TERMINAL SYS3270 are mutually exclusive.

Make sure that the attributes of your 3270 session aren't bizzarro.  E.g. 
keep it at 80 wide by no more than 43 deep.  There is a limit to the 
amount of data the integrated 3270 can deal with and you will have noticed 
that the HMC's 3270 emulator is, uh, somewhat lacking in the flexibility 
department.

But I would still open a PMR.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: IPL VM guest to virtual SYSG?

2010-04-09 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 17:47:23 -0400, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
 wrote:

Make sure that the attributes of your 3270 session aren't bizzarro.  E.g
.
keep it at 80 wide by no more than 43 deep.  There is a limit to the
amount of data the integrated 3270 can deal with and you will have notic
ed
that the HMC's 3270 emulator is, uh, somewhat lacking in the flexibility

department.

But I would still open a PMR.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

a snapdump and VM re-IPL are scheduled for this weekend; PMR to follow