Re: Mapping an Emulated DASD device to an SVC LUN number

2010-05-26 Thread Wiggins, Mark
Thank you all for your response, but it looks as though this one was the 
winner!!! Special thanks to Mr. Romanowski and yes, the mystery lies within the 
SCSI_id and just converting that number to hex. Thanks again,

Mark Wiggins
University of Connecticut

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Subject: Re: Mapping an Emulated DASD device to an SVC LUN number

The SVC command line command
 svcinfo lshostvdiskmap
might list the information you're looking for. Look online for the manual
IBM TotalStorage SAN Volume ControllerCommand-Line Interface User's Guide

Here's sample output (probably folded across two lines); the SCSI_id column
is the  LUN's hex id in decimal (decimal 102 below is hex LUN id 0066)
svcinfo lshostvdiskmap Z10_P1-T1Linux
id   name  SCSI_idvdisk_id   vdisk_name
   wwpn vdisk_UID
240  Z10_P1-T1Linux102186
Z_TZ2BF152_V2 5005076401E2893A 60050768018180762800062F
240  Z10_P1-T1Linux103667
Z_TZ2BF152_V3 5005076401E2893A 600507680181807628000633

(the SVC's SCSI_id column is not to be confused with the value given by
linux's scsi_id command. I found that prefixing 3 to the SVC's vdisk_UID is
the same value returned by linux's scsi_id command)


Mapping an Emulated DASD device to an SVC LUN number

2010-05-25 Thread Wiggins, Mark
We're looking to migrate to a new z/10 and we've come up with an issue that 
hoping someone out there knows how to resolve. A while back when we installed 
our SVC (2145) we lost the ability to see the real LUN number that was being 
assigned to our z/VM system as an emulated (9336) device. On the SVC side on 
things you see a 16 character LIN id like this; 013D (which we'd 
only use the last 4 of 015E). When you run the SCSIDISC command on z/VM, the 
LUN that shows up in z/VM in just the next number in sequential order (e.g. if 
it was the 11 LUN allocated, it would have a LUN id of 000A). Are 
there any commands from z/VM that can be issued to give you the LUN id as 
defined within the SVC? A command like q edev e011 details shows

EDEV E011 TYPE FBA ATTRIBUTES 2145
  VENDOR:  IBM PRODUCT :  2145 REVISION:  
  BLOCKSIZE:  512 NUMBER OF BLOCKS:  83886080
  PATHS:
FCP_DEV:  A200 WWPN:  50050768011035EE LUN:  000A 
PREF
 CONNECTION TYPE:  SWITCHED

Mark Wiggins
University of Connecticut
860-486-2792




Re: Mapping an Emulated DASD device to an SVC LUN number

2010-05-25 Thread Dave Jones

Hi, Mark.

Have you thought about maybe installing one of the free Linux distros 
for the z Architecture (openSuSE, maybe) and using its set of SCSI 
commands (lsluns, lszfcp, etc.) to get the information you need?


DJ

On 05/25/2010 02:45 PM, Wiggins, Mark wrote:

We're looking to migrate to a new z/10 and we've come up with an issue that hoping someone out there knows 
how to resolve. A while back when we installed our SVC (2145) we lost the ability to see the real 
LUN number that was being assigned to our z/VM system as an emulated (9336) device. On the SVC side on things 
you see a 16 character LIN id like this; 013D (which we'd only use the last 4 of 
015E). When you run the SCSIDISC command on z/VM, the LUN that shows up in z/VM in just the next 
number in sequential order (e.g. if it was the 11 LUN allocated, it would have a LUN id of 000A). 
Are there any commands from z/VM that can be issued to give you the LUN id as defined within the SVC? A 
command like q edev e011 details shows

EDEV E011 TYPE FBA ATTRIBUTES 2145
   VENDOR:  IBM PRODUCT :  2145 REVISION:  
   BLOCKSIZE:  512 NUMBER OF BLOCKS:  83886080
   PATHS:
 FCP_DEV:  A200 WWPN:  50050768011035EE LUN:  000A 
PREF
  CONNECTION TYPE:  SWITCHED

Mark Wiggins
University of Connecticut
860-486-2792





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Dave Jones
V/Soft
www.vsoft-software.com
Houston, TX
281.578.7544


Re: Mapping an Emulated DASD device to an SVC LUN number

2010-05-25 Thread Eric R Farman
Hi Mark,

When you say the real LUN number, are you referring to the SVC's MDISK 
LUN ID, which is representing the backing storage?  If so, I do not 
believe any host OS has the ability to see these identifiers, as the SVC 
only uses that internally, as part of his MDISK-to-VDISK mapping.  This is 
because the data itself can be moved from one (or more) physical LUNs to 
others as part of data migration or balancing or what-have-you, and so 
these LUN identifiers are not interesting to the host.  (For the record, 
MDISK is SVC's term for Managed Disk.  It is not to be confused with the 
minidisk definition of MDISK that is common in VM.)

The VDISKs themselves are mapped to the connected hosts, and it is the 
resulting LUN identifier for these devices that the OS will see in the 
form of x000A or whatever.  In the VDISK-to-Host mapping panel 
of the SVC console, there is a SCSI ID column (at least in the version I 
have available to me), that is the **decimal** value of that LUN ID.

Regards,
Eric

Eric Farman
z/VM I/O Development
IBM Endicott, NY
(607)429-4958 (tie 620)



From:
Wiggins, Mark mark.wigg...@uconn.edu
To:
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Date:
05/25/2010 03:46 PM
Subject:
Mapping an Emulated DASD device to an SVC LUN number
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We’re looking to migrate to a new z/10 and we’ve come up with an issue 
that hoping someone out there knows how to resolve. A while back when we 
installed our SVC (2145) we lost the ability to see the “real” LUN number 
that was being assigned to our z/VM system as an emulated (9336) device. 
On the SVC side on things you see a 16 character LIN id like this; 
013D (which we’d only use the last 4 of “015E”). When you run 
the SCSIDISC command on z/VM, the LUN that shows up in z/VM in just the 
next number in sequential order (e.g. if it was the 11 LUN allocated, it 
would have a LUN id of 000A). Are there any commands from z/VM 
that can be issued to give you the LUN id as defined within the SVC? A 
command like “q edev e011 details” shows
 
EDEV E011 TYPE FBA ATTRIBUTES 2145
  VENDOR:  IBM PRODUCT :  2145 REVISION:   
  BLOCKSIZE:  512 NUMBER OF BLOCKS:  83886080
  PATHS:
FCP_DEV:  A200 WWPN:  50050768011035EE LUN: 
000A PREF
 CONNECTION TYPE:  SWITCHED
 
Mark Wiggins
University of Connecticut
860-486-2792
 
 




Re: Mapping an Emulated DASD device to an SVC LUN number

2010-05-25 Thread Mark Post
 On 5/25/2010 at 04:38 PM, Dave Jones d...@vsoft-software.com wrote: 
 Have you thought about maybe installing one of the free Linux distros 
 for the z Architecture (openSuSE, maybe)

openSUSE is not available for System z.

and using its set of SCSI 
 commands (lsluns, lszfcp, etc.) to get the information you need?

It would have the same problem as z/VM.  The SAN Volume Controller is, get 
ready for it, virtualizing all the SCSI devices attached to it, and presenting 
a consistent interface to the systems on the other side.  If there is some 
sort of API on the SVC, then that might be a different story, but strictly from 
a user viewpoint, that type of information is being hidden.


Mark Post


Re: Mapping an Emulated DASD device to an SVC LUN number

2010-05-25 Thread Raymond Higgs
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 Mapping an Emulated DASD device to an SVC LUN number
 
 We?re looking to migrate to a new z/10 and we?ve come up with an 
 issue that hoping someone out there knows how to resolve. A while 
 back when we installed our SVC (2145) we lost the ability to see the
 ?real? LUN number that was being assigned to our z/VM system as an 
 emulated (9336) device. On the SVC side on things you see a 16 
 character LIN id like this; 013D (which we?d only use 
 the last 4 of ?015E?). When you run the SCSIDISC command on z/VM, 
 the LUN that shows up in z/VM in just the next number in sequential 
 order (e.g. if it was the 11 LUN allocated, it would have a LUN id 
 of 000A). Are there any commands from z/VM that can be 
 issued to give you the LUN id as defined within the SVC? A command 
 like ?q edev e011 details? shows
 
 EDEV E011 TYPE FBA ATTRIBUTES 2145
   VENDOR:  IBM PRODUCT :  2145 REVISION:   
   BLOCKSIZE:  512 NUMBER OF BLOCKS:  83886080
   PATHS:
 FCP_DEV:  A200 WWPN:  50050768011035EE LUN: 
 000A PREF
  CONNECTION TYPE:  SWITCHED
 
 Mark Wiggins
 University of Connecticut
 860-486-2792


Mark,

I agree with the others.  I think you need to use the SVC's GUI, command 
line interface, or CIM interfaces to get info about managed disks.  The 
CLI is probably the easiest because it only requires an ssh client.  CIM 
probably requires writing some code, and the GUI needs a browser.

Regards,

Ray Higgs
System z FCP Development
Bld. 706, B24
2455 South Road
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
(845) 435-8666,  T/L 295-8666
rayhi...@us.ibm.com

Re: Mapping an Emulated DASD device to an SVC LUN number

2010-05-25 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
The SVC command line command
 svcinfo lshostvdiskmap
might list the information you're looking for. Look online for the manual

IBM TotalStorage SAN Volume ControllerCommand-Line Interface User’s Gu
ide

Here's sample output (probably folded across two lines); the SCSI_id colu
mn
is the  LUN's hex id in decimal (decimal 102 below is hex LUN id 0066)
svcinfo lshostvdiskmap Z10_P1-T1Linux
id   name  SCSI_idvdisk_id   vdisk_na
me
   wwpn vdisk_UID
240  Z10_P1-T1Linux102186   

Z_TZ2BF152_V2 5005076401E2893A 60050768018180762800062F
240  Z10_P1-T1Linux103667   

Z_TZ2BF152_V3 5005076401E2893A 600507680181807628000633

(the SVC's SCSI_id column is not to be confused with the value given by
linux's scsi_id command. I found that prefixing 3 to the SVC's vdisk_UID 
is
the same value returned by linux's scsi_id command)