Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM

2008-05-02 Thread Jan Canavan
We have z/VM5.3, with an IBM 3494 tape library system running RMSMASTER 
(DFSMS), AND DYNAM.  We are doing a stacked DDR tape switch 4 volumes on it.

On the 4th tape we get:
  
Tape 0590 given to DYNAMVM 0590
11:25:33 CADT822I DSN=DDR.XX.530W02.3 IS FILE NO. 3 THERE ARE ONLY 1 FILES 
ON TAPE 050094
CADT713E OPEN REQUEST FOR DDNAME DDROUT CANCELLED
   +++ RC(84) +++
71 *-*  'CP Q T'
   CP Q T

--


What we get on the previous volumes are:


Tape 0590 given to DYNAMVM 0590
Tape 0181 attached
11:22:13 CADT831I *CLOSED* DDRWKLY 0590 050094 DDR.XX.530W01.2
--

You don’t see the TAPE 181 ATTACHED.

If you add sleep of 180 seconds, or you put a trace in it works.  DYNAM support 
cannot reproduce the problem.  

Anybody else had trouble with this?


Jan Canavan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
VSE/VM SYSTEMS PROGRAMMER


Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM

2008-05-02 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 05/02/2008 at 12:06 EDT, Jan Canavan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 What we get on the previous volumes are:
 
 
 Tape 0590 given to DYNAMVM 0590
 Tape 0181 attached
 11:22:13 CADT831I *CLOSED* DDRWKLY 0590 050094 DDR.XX.530W01.2
 --
 
 You don?t see the TAPE 181 ATTACHED.
 
 If you add sleep of 180 seconds, or you put a trace in it works.  DYNAM 
support 
 cannot reproduce the problem.
 
 Anybody else had trouble with this?

Perhaps DYNAMVM is look for the given message instead of waiting for the 
interrupt that indicates a device has appeared?  (I don't know how it 
works.)

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM

2008-05-02 Thread Imler, Steven J
It is/was a timing issue where the tape is being passed back to the
DYNAMCMS server at DYNCLOSE to write trailer labels for the dataset ...
then back to the end user who subsequently issues a DYNOPEN for DSN 4 on
the same tape causing the tape to be passed back to the DYNAMCMS server
to validate the volume ... rewind to check VOL1 followed by subsequent
FSF(s) to position to the end of DSN 3, then prepare the HDR1 labels for
the new 4th DSN.

In any case, the timing issue caused DYNAMCMS to incorrectly state there
was only one file on the tape resulting in a automatic CANCEL ... so the
tape was never reattached to the end user because the DYNOPEN was
cancelled.  This resulted in DDR failing because there actually was no
tape attached to the end user at virtual device 181.

I've been waiting for another report of a failure from the customer
after providing them with some trace diagnostics ... but as far as I
know there hasn't been another failure (because I haven't heard anything
back for over a week).

JR (Steven) Imler
CA
Senior Software Engineer
Tel:  +1 703 708 3479
Fax:  +1 703 708 3267
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 01:22 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM
 
 On Friday, 05/02/2008 at 12:06 EDT, Jan Canavan 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  What we get on the previous volumes are:
  
  
  Tape 0590 given to DYNAMVM 0590
  Tape 0181 attached
  11:22:13 CADT831I *CLOSED* DDRWKLY 0590 050094 DDR.XX.530W01.2
  
 --
  
  You don?t see the TAPE 181 ATTACHED.
  
  If you add sleep of 180 seconds, or you put a trace in it 
 works.  DYNAM 
 support 
  cannot reproduce the problem.
  
  Anybody else had trouble with this?
 
 Perhaps DYNAMVM is look for the given message instead of 
 waiting for the 
 interrupt that indicates a device has appeared?  (I don't know how it 
 works.)
 
 Alan Altmark
 z/VM Development
 IBM Endicott
 
 


Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM

2008-05-02 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 05/02/2008 at 01:39 EDT, Imler, Steven J 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been waiting for another report of a failure from the customer
 after providing them with some trace diagnostics ... but as far as I
 know there hasn't been another failure (because I haven't heard anything
 back for over a week).

Tricksy, are they.  We all know that adding traces to find intermittent 
problems only pushes them underground.  These problems are Evil.  They 
don't like the light - it burns!

:-)

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott


Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM

2008-05-02 Thread Stephen Frazier

I bet because the code was written before multiuser attach support existed.

Les Geer (607-429-3580) wrote:


Curious as to why a tape give is issued here rather than exploiting
the multiuser attach support in RMS

Best Regards,
Les Geer
IBM z/VM and Linux Development


--
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Information Technology Unit
Oklahoma Department of Corrections
3400 Martin Luther King
Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298
Tel.: (405) 425-2549
Fax: (405) 425-2554
Pager: (405) 690-1828
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Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM

2008-05-02 Thread Schuh, Richard
If it is the old DYNAMT and DYNAMD products rolled into a single unit,
most of it has probably been around since at least the mid-80s.

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Frazier
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 3:15 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM
 
 I bet because the code was written before multiuser attach 
 support existed.
 
 Les Geer (607-429-3580) wrote:
  
  Curious as to why a tape give is issued here rather than exploiting 
  the multiuser attach support in RMS
  
  Best Regards,
  Les Geer
  IBM z/VM and Linux Development
 
 --
 Stephen Frazier
 Information Technology Unit
 Oklahoma Department of Corrections
 3400 Martin Luther King
 Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298
 Tel.: (405) 425-2549
 Fax: (405) 425-2554
 Pager: (405) 690-1828
 email:  stevef%doc.state.ok.us
 


Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM

2008-05-02 Thread Mike Walter

And of course it could be updated, but they probably have to weigh the cost vs other new 
things that development could be doing.  So goes the Song of Chuckie...   ;-)

Mike Walter


- Original Message -
From: Stephen Frazier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05/02/2008 05:14 PM EST
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM



I bet because the code was written before multiuser attach support existed.

Les Geer (607-429-3580) wrote:


Curious as to why a tape give is issued here rather than exploiting
the multiuser attach support in RMS

Best Regards,
Les Geer
IBM z/VM and Linux Development


--
Stephen Frazier
Information Technology Unit
Oklahoma Department of Corrections
3400 Martin Luther King
Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298
Tel.: (405) 425-2549
Fax: (405) 425-2554
Pager: (405) 690-1828
email:  stevef%doc.state.ok.us



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Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM

2008-05-02 Thread Adam Thornton

On May 2, 2008, at 6:01 PM, David Boyes wrote:

And of course it could be updated, but they probably have to weigh  
the
cost vs other new things that development could be doing.  So goes  
the

Song of Chuckie...   ;-)


Or the Ballad of Chuckie (if old Sam Coleridge wants a footnote for
this, he's a loonie):


I'm not sure whether you need:
a) MORE LAUDANUM
or
b) Urgent visit from A Person From Porlock

Adam


Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM

2008-05-02 Thread David Boyes
 And of course it could be updated, but they probably have to weigh the
 cost vs other new things that development could be doing.  So goes the
 Song of Chuckie...   ;-)

Or the Ballad of Chuckie (if old Sam Coleridge wants a footnote for
this, he's a loonie):


In Endicott did Mom Watson's boy
A stately pleasure dome decree,
Where the sacred river doesn't run, 
Through caverns measureless to man
Down to a sunless sea,
So twice half miles of infertile ground,
With factories and towers girdled round,
And none the gardens bright with rills,
Where blossom'd no incense-bearing tree.
And where no forests ancient as the hills, 
Enfold spots of sunny greenery.

But O! that deep business case of charm,
Which slanted thwart the concrete cover.
A savage place! Unholy and ensorcelled
As e're beneath a waning moon be haunted
By users wailing for CP dispatch bugs.
And from this chasm, with ceaseless postings seething,
From this Earch in fast thick pants were breathing
A might fountain of remorse was forced
Amid whose swift half-hairless burst,
Huge fragments vaulted like rebounding requirements
As chaffy grain beneath thresher flails,
And 'mid these dancing hacks once and ever, 
It flung up momently the case of whether
Twas right or wrong to grant them whether
Their CP dispatch bugs were fixable.
Then reache'd the cubicles measured by hand,
Sink in tumult to lifeless note
And 'mid this tumult Mom Watson's boy 
Head from afar ancestral budgets crying no more!

The shadow of the dome of pleasure
Floated midway on the lot
Where was heard the mingled measure 
From the fountain and the lot
A miracle of rare design
A sunless pleasure dome of ice
A planner with a notebook
In a vision once I saw.
It was a Missouri lad, 
And on his notebook he did write,
Singing of Security and other.
Could I revicve within me
The response of not in plan for thee?
To such a deep delight 'twould me, 
That with posting loud and long
I would heckle that dome in air!
That sunless dome! That cave of ice!
And all who hear should see them there!
And all should cry, Beware! Beware!
His flashing eyes, his studied air!
Weave a requirement round him thrice, 
And close one eye with holy dread!
For he on IBM marketing dew hath fed 
And drunk the milk of Poughkeepsie...


Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM

2008-05-02 Thread David Boyes
 I'm not sure whether you need:
 a) MORE LAUDANUM
 or
 b) Urgent visit from A Person From Porlock

Unfortunately, I'd have to deceive someone important again. He's
watching this time. 


(and people ask me what a good liberal education is good for...)


Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM

2008-05-02 Thread Imler, Steven J
Les,

It's because in this case the play/interaction is intiment between the
end user and the DYNAMCMS server ... DFSMS is completely out of the
picture ... the tape drive is simply being CP GIVE'd back and forth
between the end user and the DYNAMCMS server (dictated by DynamT/VM
code).

JR (Steven) Imler
CA
Senior Software Engineer
Tel:  +1 703 708 3479
Fax:  +1 703 708 3267
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

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 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Les Geer (607-429-3580)
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 05:59 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM
 
 We have z/VM5.3, with an IBM 3494 tape library system 
 running RMSMASTER
 (DFSMS), AND DYNAM.  We are doing a stacked DDR tape switch 4 
 volumes on it.
 
 On the 4th tape we get:
 
 Tape 0590 given to DYNAMVM 0590
 11:25:33 CADT822I DSN=3DDDR.XX.530W02.3 IS FILE NO. 3 
 THERE ARE ONLY 1 =
 FILES ON TAPE 050094
 CADT713E OPEN REQUEST FOR DDNAME DDROUT CANCELLED
+++ RC(84) +++
 71 *-*  'CP Q T'
CP Q T
 
 --
 
 
 What we get on the previous volumes are:
 
 
 Tape 0590 given to DYNAMVM 0590
 Tape 0181 attached
 11:22:13 CADT831I *CLOSED* DDRWKLY 0590 050094 DDR.XX.530W01.2
 -
 -
 
 You don=E2=80=99t see the TAPE 181 ATTACHED.
 
 If you add sleep of 180 seconds, or you put a trace in it 
 works.  DYNAM sup=
 port cannot reproduce the problem. =20
 
 Anybody else had trouble with this?
 
 
 Curious as to why a tape give is issued here rather than exploiting
 the multiuser attach support in RMS
 
 Best Regards,
 Les Geer
 IBM z/VM and Linux Development
 
 


Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM

2008-05-02 Thread Imler, Steven J
That's correct, but in this case irrelevant ...

JR (Steven) Imler
CA
Senior Software Engineer
Tel:  +1 703 708 3479
Fax:  +1 703 708 3267
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Frazier
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 06:15 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM
 
 I bet because the code was written before multiuser attach 
 support existed.
 
 Les Geer (607-429-3580) wrote:
  
  Curious as to why a tape give is issued here rather than exploiting
  the multiuser attach support in RMS
  
  Best Regards,
  Les Geer
  IBM z/VM and Linux Development
 
 -- 
 Stephen Frazier
 Information Technology Unit
 Oklahoma Department of Corrections
 3400 Martin Luther King
 Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298
 Tel.: (405) 425-2549
 Fax: (405) 425-2554
 Pager: (405) 690-1828
 email:  stevef%doc.state.ok.us
 
 


Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM

2008-05-02 Thread Imler, Steven J
Mike,

In this case it has nothing to do with ATTACH MULTIUSER ... it has to do
with a timing issue relative to 3590s spacing out ... no interrupt for
2, 3, 4, 5, 20 minutes is just fine :-( 

Hence we have the IBM recommendation/default for MIH for a 3590 at 12.5
minutes (or is it 20.5 minutes) ... I can't remember any more.

JR (Steven) Imler
CA
Senior Software Engineer
Tel:  +1 703 708 3479
Fax:  +1 703 708 3267
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Walter
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 06:43 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM
 
 And of course it could be updated, but they probably have to 
 weigh the cost vs other new things that development could be 
 doing.  So goes the Song of Chuckie...   ;-)
 
 Mike Walter
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Stephen Frazier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 05/02/2008 05:14 PM EST
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM
 
 
 
 I bet because the code was written before multiuser attach 
 support existed.
 
 Les Geer (607-429-3580) wrote:
 
  Curious as to why a tape give is issued here rather than exploiting
  the multiuser attach support in RMS
 
  Best Regards,
  Les Geer
  IBM z/VM and Linux Development
 
 --
 Stephen Frazier
 Information Technology Unit
 Oklahoma Department of Corrections
 3400 Martin Luther King
 Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298
 Tel.: (405) 425-2549
 Fax: (405) 425-2554
 Pager: (405) 690-1828
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Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM

2008-05-02 Thread Imler, Steven J
Not to beat the dead horse ... but Mike is correct in assuming that
Dynam/T VM does not currently have support for MULTIUSER ATTACH or
recognition of it.  

For those on the list that run VM:Tape, it does (via DEBUG setting) ...
there are a few of you using it (and yes, it was coordinated with
DFSMS/VM [RMSMASTR] support). 

JR (Steven) Imler
CA
Senior Software Engineer
Tel:  +1 703 708 3479
Fax:  +1 703 708 3267
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Walter
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 06:43 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM
 
 And of course it could be updated, but they probably have to 
 weigh the cost vs other new things that development could be 
 doing.  So goes the Song of Chuckie...   ;-)
 
 Mike Walter
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Stephen Frazier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 05/02/2008 05:14 PM EST
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM
 
 
 
 I bet because the code was written before multiuser attach 
 support existed.
 
 Les Geer (607-429-3580) wrote:
 
  Curious as to why a tape give is issued here rather than exploiting
  the multiuser attach support in RMS
 
  Best Regards,
  Les Geer
  IBM z/VM and Linux Development
 
 --
 Stephen Frazier
 Information Technology Unit
 Oklahoma Department of Corrections
 3400 Martin Luther King
 Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298
 Tel.: (405) 425-2549
 Fax: (405) 425-2554
 Pager: (405) 690-1828
 email:  stevef%doc.state.ok.us
 
 
 
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Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM

2008-05-02 Thread Mike Walter
Aw geez, this is getting to detailed.
I just saw a chance to elbow Chuckie in the ribs and jumped on it.  I think 
that David got the point right off.  :-)

But it's interesting to know the details anyway.

Mike Walter


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Sent: 05/02/2008 09:09 PM AST
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM



Not to beat the dead horse ... but Mike is correct in assuming that
Dynam/T VM does not currently have support for MULTIUSER ATTACH or
recognition of it.

For those on the list that run VM:Tape, it does (via DEBUG setting) ...
there are a few of you using it (and yes, it was coordinated with
DFSMS/VM [RMSMASTR] support).

JR (Steven) Imler
CA
Senior Software Engineer
Tel:  +1 703 708 3479
Fax:  +1 703 708 3267
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Walter
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 06:43 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM

 And of course it could be updated, but they probably have to
 weigh the cost vs other new things that development could be
 doing.  So goes the Song of Chuckie...   ;-)

 Mike Walter


 - Original Message -
 From: Stephen Frazier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 05/02/2008 05:14 PM EST
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM



 I bet because the code was written before multiuser attach
 support existed.

 Les Geer (607-429-3580) wrote:
 
  Curious as to why a tape give is issued here rather than exploiting
  the multiuser attach support in RMS
 
  Best Regards,
  Les Geer
  IBM z/VM and Linux Development

 --
 Stephen Frazier
 Information Technology Unit
 Oklahoma Department of Corrections
 3400 Martin Luther King
 Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298
 Tel.: (405) 425-2549
 Fax: (405) 425-2554
 Pager: (405) 690-1828
 email:  stevef%doc.state.ok.us



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Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM

2008-05-02 Thread Mike Walter
No apologies needed for me.  You just responded very quickly with details that 
can actually help a customer in need.  Would that all product support respond 
so quickly with helpful info -- and not even through a support call!

Mike Walter
A (ususally) satisfied CA customer.
And yes, to those amazed at that from me, I still find it hard to believe such 
comes from my own fingers.  CA must have improved overall customer satisfaction 
by large measures in one swell foop when buying Sterling Software's VM 
product line.


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Sent: 05/02/2008 10:03 PM AST
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM



And yes ... Chuckie beat me to a pulp and gave my initial response to
Jan (or at least part of it) ... Apologies ... Apologies ... Apologies
...

 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Walter
 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 09:51 PM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM

 Aw geez, this is getting to detailed.
 I just saw a chance to elbow Chuckie in the ribs and jumped
 on it.  I think that David got the point right off.  :-)

 But it's interesting to know the details anyway.

 Mike Walter


 - Original Message -
 From: Imler, Steven J [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 05/02/2008 09:09 PM AST
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM



 Not to beat the dead horse ... but Mike is correct in assuming that
 Dynam/T VM does not currently have support for MULTIUSER ATTACH or
 recognition of it.

 For those on the list that run VM:Tape, it does (via DEBUG
 setting) ...
 there are a few of you using it (and yes, it was coordinated with
 DFSMS/VM [RMSMASTR] support).

 JR (Steven) Imler
 CA
 Senior Software Engineer
 Tel:  +1 703 708 3479
 Fax:  +1 703 708 3267
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  -Original Message-
  From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Walter
  Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 06:43 PM
  To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
  Subject: Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM
 
  And of course it could be updated, but they probably have to
  weigh the cost vs other new things that development could be
  doing.  So goes the Song of Chuckie...   ;-)
 
  Mike Walter
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Stephen Frazier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 05/02/2008 05:14 PM EST
  To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
  Subject: Re: Problem with stacked ddr tape and possible DYNAM
 
 
 
  I bet because the code was written before multiuser attach
  support existed.
 
  Les Geer (607-429-3580) wrote:
  
   Curious as to why a tape give is issued here rather than
 exploiting
   the multiuser attach support in RMS
  
   Best Regards,
   Les Geer
   IBM z/VM and Linux Development
 
  --
  Stephen Frazier
  Information Technology Unit
  Oklahoma Department of Corrections
  3400 Martin Luther King
  Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298
  Tel.: (405) 425-2549
  Fax: (405) 425-2554
  Pager: (405) 690-1828
  email:  stevef%doc.state.ok.us
 
 
 
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