Re: Remote Tape drives
On 12/29/06, Crispin Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any suggestions on ways we could have a tape drive 3490 in a remote location attached to our mainframe. We are talking about 1 thousand of miles. Speed is not important Also makes a difference what you want to do with it (yeah, know it sounds like a dumb question). If you also need to be able to IPL from it, your options seem to get less (most channel extender things do not support IPL CCW's). If you're just talking about copying data from or to the tape and usage is rare enough to accept some manual steps, it might be an option to use a local PC with SCSI attached 3490 compatible device and some PC software to transport the data via IP. We played with a remote RJE solution like that. Rob
Re: Remote Tape drives
Sorry James but a word or words appear to be missing from you message 'and the for this' ? Crispin Hugo Systems Programmer, Macro 4 http://www.macro4.com/ Macro 4 plc, The Orangery, Turners Hill Road, Worth, Crawley, RH10 4SS Direct Line: +44 (0)1293 872121 Switchboard: +44 (0) 1293 872000 Fax: +44 (0) 1293 872001 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation, offer or acceptance of any offer. -Original Message- From: Stracka, James (GTI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2007 13:57 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Remote Tape drives We used a vendor and the for this. Pay attention to MITIME setting for those drives. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crispin Hugo Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 1:16 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Remote Tape drives Chaps, Any suggestions on ways we could have a tape drive 3490 in a remote location attached to our mainframe. We are talking about 1 thousand of miles. Speed is not important Crispin Hugo Systems Programmer, Macro 4 http://www.macro4.com/ http://www.macro4.com/ Macro 4 plc, The Orangery, Turners Hill Road, Worth, Crawley, RH10 4SS Direct Line: +44 (0)1293 872121 Switchboard: +44 (0) 1293 872000 Fax: +44 (0) 1293 872001 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation, offer or acceptance of any offer. This email has been scanned for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security Service and the Macro 4 plc internal virus protection system. _ If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, please notify the sender, delete it and do not read, act upon, print, disclose, copy, retain or redistribute it. Click here http://www.ml.com/email_terms/ for important additional terms relating to this e-mail. http://www.ml.com/email_terms/ http://www.ml.com/email_terms/ _ This email has been scanned for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security Service and the Macro 4 plc internal virus protection system. This email has been scanned for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security Service and the Macro 4 plc internal virus protection system.
Re: Remote Tape drives
Crispin, My mind and fingers were running in different directions at different speeds. We used an outside vendor for our remote tape drives. Make sure you pay attention to the MITIME setting for drives and your telecommunications group to the lines to make sure that they are running and at the agreed speeds. Jim -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crispin Hugo Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 9:02 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Remote Tape drives Sorry James but a word or words appear to be missing from you message 'and the for this' ? Crispin Hugo Systems Programmer, Macro 4 http://www.macro4.com/ Macro 4 plc, The Orangery, Turners Hill Road, Worth, Crawley, RH10 4SS Direct Line: +44 (0)1293 872121 Switchboard: +44 (0) 1293 872000 Fax: +44 (0) 1293 872001 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation, offer or acceptance of any offer. -Original Message- From: Stracka, James (GTI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2007 13:57 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Remote Tape drives We used a vendor and the for this. Pay attention to MITIME setting for those drives. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crispin Hugo Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 1:16 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Remote Tape drives Chaps, Any suggestions on ways we could have a tape drive 3490 in a remote location attached to our mainframe. We are talking about 1 thousand of miles. Speed is not important Crispin Hugo Systems Programmer, Macro 4 http://www.macro4.com/ Macro 4 plc, The Orangery, Turners Hill Road, Worth, Crawley, RH10 4SS Direct Line: +44 (0)1293 872121 Switchboard: +44 (0) 1293 872000 Fax: +44 (0) 1293 872001 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation, offer or acceptance of any offer. This email has been scanned for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security Service and the Macro 4 plc internal virus protection system. _ If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, please notify the sender, delete it and do not read, act upon, print, disclose, copy, retain or redistribute it. Click here http://www.ml.com/email_terms/ for important additional terms relating to this e-mail. http://www.ml.com/email_terms/ _ This email has been scanned for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security Service and the Macro 4 plc internal virus protection system
Re: Remote Tape drives
Thanks James Crispin Hugo Systems Programmer, Macro 4 http://www.macro4.com/ Macro 4 plc, The Orangery, Turners Hill Road, Worth, Crawley, RH10 4SS Direct Line: +44 (0)1293 872121 Switchboard: +44 (0) 1293 872000 Fax: +44 (0) 1293 872001 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation, offer or acceptance of any offer. -Original Message- From: Stracka, James (GTI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2007 14:08 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Remote Tape drives Crispin, My mind and fingers were running in different directions at different speeds. We used an outside vendor for our remote tape drives. Make sure you pay attention to the MITIME setting for drives and your telecommunications group to the lines to make sure that they are running and at the agreed speeds. Jim -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crispin Hugo Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 9:02 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Remote Tape drives Sorry James but a word or words appear to be missing from you message 'and the for this' ? Crispin Hugo Systems Programmer, Macro 4 http://www.macro4.com/ Macro 4 plc, The Orangery, Turners Hill Road, Worth, Crawley, RH10 4SS Direct Line: +44 (0)1293 872121 Switchboard: +44 (0) 1293 872000 Fax: +44 (0) 1293 872001 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation, offer or acceptance of any offer. -Original Message- From: Stracka, James (GTI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2007 13:57 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Remote Tape drives We used a vendor and the for this. Pay attention to MITIME setting for those drives. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crispin Hugo Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 1:16 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Remote Tape drives Chaps, Any suggestions on ways we could have a tape drive 3490 in a remote location attached to our mainframe. We are talking about 1 thousand of miles. Speed is not important Crispin Hugo Systems Programmer, Macro 4 http://www.macro4.com/ http://www.macro4.com/ Macro 4 plc, The Orangery, Turners Hill Road, Worth, Crawley, RH10 4SS Direct Line: +44 (0)1293 872121 Switchboard: +44 (0) 1293 872000 Fax: +44 (0) 1293 872001 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation, offer or acceptance of any offer. This email has been scanned for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security Service and the Macro 4 plc internal virus protection system
Re: Remote Tape drives
There are lots of ways to do that, depending upon what it is attached to and what (if any) budget you have to do it with. Some more details would help get you better suggestions. : ) -Paul ---BeginMessage--- Chaps, Any suggestions on ways we could have a tape drive 3490 in a remote location attached to our mainframe. We are talking about 1 thousand of miles. Speed is not important Crispin Hugo Systems Programmer, Macro 4 http://www.macro4.com/ http://www.macro4.com/ Macro 4 plc, The Orangery, Turners Hill Road, Worth, Crawley, RH10 4SS Direct Line: +44 (0)1293 872121 Switchboard: +44 (0) 1293 872000 Fax: +44 (0) 1293 872001 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation, offer or acceptance of any offer. This email has been scanned for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security Service and the Macro 4 plc internal virus protection system. ---End Message---
Re: Remote Tape drives
On Friday, 12/29/2006 at 06:16 GMT, Crispin Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any suggestions on ways we could have a tape drive 3490 in a remote location attached to our mainframe. We are talking about 1 thousand of miles. Speed is not important Speed is *always* important. :-) There are companies who make FICON and ESCON channel extenders who encapsulate and encrypt channel data on a WAN to a remote location. If you don't have guaranteed WAN bandwidth between sites, you may end up with a problem. Certification of drives attached via a channel extender is typically the responsibility of the channel extender vendor, not the drive vendor. For IBM drives, you *may* need an RPQ to obtain IBM support for drives so attached. Check with your business partner or IBM Storage specialist; the extender vendor should be able to provide guidance to you as well. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: Remote Tape drives
There are channel extension boxes that will do this. McData is one vendor that comes to mind, but I'm sure there are others. Dennis I'll tell you a secret: When your number comes up, you're going to go. Well, every morning I get up, I change my number. -- Edward Chun, Pearl Harbor survivor From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crispin Hugo Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 10:16 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] Remote Tape drives Chaps, Any suggestions on ways we could have a tape drive 3490 in a remote location attached to our mainframe. We are talking about 1 thousand of miles. Speed is not important Crispin Hugo Systems Programmer, Macro 4 http://www.macro4.com/ Macro 4 plc, The Orangery, Turners Hill Road, Worth, Crawley, RH10 4SS Direct Line: +44 (0)1293 872121 Switchboard: +44 (0) 1293 872000 Fax: +44 (0) 1293 872001 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation, offer or acceptance of any offer. This email has been scanned for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security Service and the Macro 4 plc internal virus protection system.
