Re: Service - Where did it come from
HELP VMSES SERVICE or HELP VMSES MENU -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Bohnsack Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:40 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Service - Where did it come from I've commented on SERVICE before. I think that there should be some doc that covers SERVICE. For the most part, it's just a big black box. At the very least, give us a SERVICE HELP???. I understand the need for SERVICE, but for the slightly more technically inclined or VM experienced person, while SERVICE fills the bill 99% of the time, sometimes SERVICE (with a parameter of some kind) would be useful. Where is SERVICE STATUS documented? Jim Carol Everitt wrote: You could also use the SERVICE command with the STATUS operand to get=20= status on a list of PTFs or APARs installed. If you wanted to know if al= l=20 the PTFs that you have on SYSTEM1 are installed on SYSTEM2, you could=20 create a list of PTFs from the Apply list on SYSTEM1 and then use that as= =20 input on to the SERVICE command on SYSTEM2. See the description of the=20= SERVICE command in the VMSES/E Introduction and Reference, chapter 20,=20= for complete syntax. -- Jim Bohnsack Cornell University (972) 596-6377 home/office (972) 342-5823 cell jab...@cornell.edu This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system.
Re: Service - Where did it come from
Thanks. I had never come across that. Jim Romanowski, John (OFT) wrote: HELP VMSES SERVICE or HELP VMSES MENU -- Jim Bohnsack Cornell University (972) 596-6377 home/office (972) 342-5823 cell jab...@cornell.edu
Re: Service - Where did it come from
It's also in chapter 20 of the VM 5.3 manual VMSES/E Introduction and Reference a bit easier to read than the HELP files -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Bohnsack Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 9:10 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Service - Where did it come from Thanks. I had never come across that. Jim Romanowski, John (OFT) wrote: HELP VMSES SERVICE or HELP VMSES MENU -- Jim Bohnsack Cornell University (972) 596-6377 home/office (972) 342-5823 cell jab...@cornell.edu This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system.
Re: Service - Where did it come from
You could also use the SERVICE command with the STATUS operand to get status on a list of PTFs or APARs installed. If you wanted to know if al l the PTFs that you have on SYSTEM1 are installed on SYSTEM2, you could create a list of PTFs from the Apply list on SYSTEM1 and then use that as input on to the SERVICE command on SYSTEM2. See the description of the SERVICE command in the VMSES/E Introduction and Reference, chapter 20, for complete syntax.
Re: Service - Where did it come from
I've commented on SERVICE before. I think that there should be some doc that covers SERVICE. For the most part, it's just a big black box. At the very least, give us a SERVICE HELP???. I understand the need for SERVICE, but for the slightly more technically inclined or VM experienced person, while SERVICE fills the bill 99% of the time, sometimes SERVICE (with a parameter of some kind) would be useful. Where is SERVICE STATUS documented? Jim Carol Everitt wrote: You could also use the SERVICE command with the STATUS operand to get=20= status on a list of PTFs or APARs installed. If you wanted to know if al= l=20 the PTFs that you have on SYSTEM1 are installed on SYSTEM2, you could=20 create a list of PTFs from the Apply list on SYSTEM1 and then use that as= =20 input on to the SERVICE command on SYSTEM2. See the description of the=20= SERVICE command in the VMSES/E Introduction and Reference, chapter 20,=20= for complete syntax. -- Jim Bohnsack Cornell University (972) 596-6377 home/office (972) 342-5823 cell jab...@cornell.edu
Re: Service - Where did it come from
Look at the $APPLIST file on the DELTA disk for the product. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Bates Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:54 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Service - Where did it come from A question was posed to me recently that I couldn't think of a way to answer. We have been running through some testing on a system and applying a lot of PTFs to resolve issues. Then, along comes RSU 802 and it is put on. We roll 802 out to the other LPARs and then comes the question: Which PTFs are missing from the other systems? Or, what PTFs that we put on the first LPAR to solve problems were not included on the 802 RSU? I couldn't come up with a quick and easy answer. So my question is: Is there a way to list the PTFs on a system so that it says where they came from? Perhaps a file that has all the PTFs on the system that could be compared to a TOC of the RSU (PIPE collate comes to mind)? Bob Bates Enterprise Hosting Services w. (469)892-6660 c. (214) 907-5071 This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation.
Re: Service - Where did it come from
RSU's do not remove PTF's that are not included in them, But What you are looking for is the command VMFINFO you can use this command to interrogate the PTF's on the current system and their current status From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Bates Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 10:54 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Service - Where did it come from A question was posed to me recently that I couldn't think of a way to answer. We have been running through some testing on a system and applying a lot of PTFs to resolve issues. Then, along comes RSU 802 and it is put on. We roll 802 out to the other LPARs and then comes the question: Which PTFs are missing from the other systems? Or, what PTFs that we put on the first LPAR to solve problems were not included on the 802 RSU? I couldn't come up with a quick and easy answer. So my question is: Is there a way to list the PTFs on a system so that it says where they came from? Perhaps a file that has all the PTFs on the system that could be compared to a TOC of the RSU (PIPE collate comes to mind)? Bob Bates Enterprise Hosting Services w. (469)892-6660 c. (214) 907-5071 This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation.
Re: Service - Where did it come from
VMFINFO is panel driven, not suited when wanting to compare a lot of fixes. There is also a VMSES command to compare two repositories, (VMFxxx COMPTBL?) it is used (I guess) by VMFPSU (the command one uses in the RSU process) to see what you'll get and what needs to be reapplied. But, for this case, I'd go for a simple PIPE and compare the apply list (on the delta disk) or some other control file found on the apply disk. I'd have the result in less than the time it takes to study the syntax/parameters for the VMSES command. 2009/3/6 Davis, Larry larry.davis.consult...@nielsen.com RSU's do not remove PTF's that are not included in them, But What you are looking for is the command VMFINFO you can use this command to interrogate the PTF's on the current system and their current status From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Bates Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 10:54 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Service - Where did it come from A question was posed to me recently that I couldn't think of a way to answer. We have been running through some testing on a system and applying a lot of PTFs to resolve issues. Then, along comes RSU 802 and it is put on. We roll 802 out to the other LPARs and then comes the question: Which PTFs are missing from the other systems? Or, what PTFs that we put on the first LPAR to solve problems were not included on the 802 RSU? I couldn't come up with a quick and easy answer. So my question is: Is there a way to list the PTFs on a system so that it says where they came from? Perhaps a file that has all the PTFs on the system that could be compared to a TOC of the RSU (PIPE collate comes to mind)? Bob Bates Enterprise Hosting Services w. (469)892-6660 c. (214) 907-5071 “This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
