Re: z/vm dfdss standalone ipl console

2008-02-11 Thread Jim Bohnsack
I think David, with Mike's correction is correct.  We've got 2nd level 
MVS machines that are used for our D/R tests.  We always start the 
exercise by loading the D/R backup tapes from S/A DFDSS.  The consoles 
on the 2nd level MVS id's are specified as being 3270 rather than 3215.  
Works just fine.

Jim

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While I hesitate to correct David, in this case a correction is warranted.
The proper command is:=20
CP TERMINAL CONMODE 3270
Perhaps David's suffering Monday Syndrome=3F

Respectfully,

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Also, some non-VM utilities really want CONMODE 3270. If Mike=3Fs suggestio=
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doesn=3Ft work, try SET CONMODE 3270 before you IPL 181, eg:=20
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CP SET CONMODE 3270#IPL 181 CLEAR=20
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(the SET CONMODE will cause CMS to choke,  so be prepared). Press Enter=20
after the tape has stopped moving.=20
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Some IPLable utilities require an interrupt so that the utility can=20
identify the specific terminal to which it should reply (this goes back to=
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ancient days of coax-connected terminals).  I'm not sure about DFDSS.=20

But it can't hurt to try pressing ENTER (wherever it is mapped on your=20
3270 terminal emulator keyboard, but usually the right-Ctrl key).=20
If that doesn't work, give the ATTN or SysReq key each a try.=20

If all those fail, try pressing the PA1 key, which should cause a CP=20
READ, then enter: D PSW (or D PSWG on z/Architecture virtual machines)=20
and report back here with the displayed PSW.=20

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We are running z/VM Version 5 Release 2.0 service level 0702 (64-bit)=20


We have a standalone z/OS DFDSS 1.7 which we intend to IPL=20
=66rom a z/VM guest to restore a tape backup to a dasd.=20
Upon IPL from tape (i.e. IPL 181 clear), we were able to load=20
the standalone dfdss program successfully:=20

  5694-A01 DFSMSDSS STAND-ALONE v1.07.0 =20
  ...=20
  ADRY005E  DEFINE INPUT DEVICE, REPLY 'DDD,CCUU' OR 'CONSOLE'=20
  ENTER INPUT/COMMAND:=20
  .=20
We reply to message above with CONSOLE ,but the program=20
just hangs without any error message. z/vm shows the status as running.


Other programs such as standalone ICKDSF seems to have no problem.

We know our SADFDSS is a working tape because when we ipled without z/vm,

there is no problem replying CONSOLE to the ADRY0005E message.

Can anyone guide me on what to check =3F thanks.

Caleb


  


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Re: z/vm dfdss standalone ipl console

2008-02-11 Thread David Boyes

While I hesitate to correct David, in this case a correction is
warranted. 
The proper command is: 
CP TERMINAL CONMODE 3270 
Perhaps David's suffering Monday Syndrome? 



More like what idiot decided that Solaris kernel configuration files
should be in XML syndrome. 

Mike is (of course) correct. My head hurts today. 



Re: z/vm dfdss standalone ipl console

2008-02-11 Thread David Boyes
Also, some non-VM utilities really want CONMODE 3270. If Mike's
suggestion doesn't work, try SET CONMODE 3270 before you IPL 181, eg: 

 

CP SET CONMODE 3270#IPL 181 CLEAR 

 

(the SET CONMODE will cause CMS to choke,  so be prepared). Press Enter
after the tape has stopped moving. 

 



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Some IPLable utilities require an interrupt so that the utility can
identify the specific terminal to which it should reply (this goes back
to ancient days of coax-connected terminals).  I'm not sure about DFDSS.


But it can't hurt to try pressing ENTER (wherever it is mapped on your
3270 terminal emulator keyboard, but usually the right-Ctrl key). 
If that doesn't work, give the ATTN or SysReq key each a try. 

If all those fail, try pressing the PA1 key, which should cause a CP
READ, then enter: D PSW (or D PSWG on z/Architecture virtual
machines) and report back here with the displayed PSW. 

Mike Walter 
Hewitt Associates 
Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily
represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. 



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Hi,
 
We are running z/VM Version 5 Release 2.0 service level 0702 (64-bit)  


We have a standalone z/OS DFDSS 1.7 which we intend to IPL  
from a z/VM guest to restore a tape backup to a dasd.  
Upon IPL from tape (i.e. IPL 181 clear), we were able to load  
the standalone dfdss program successfully:  

  5694-A01 DFSMSDSS STAND-ALONE v1.07.0   
  ...  
  ADRY005E  DEFINE INPUT DEVICE, REPLY 'DDD,CCUU' OR 'CONSOLE'  
  ENTER INPUT/COMMAND:  
  .  
We reply to message above with CONSOLE ,but the program  
just hangs without any error message. z/vm shows the status as
running.


Other programs such as standalone ICKDSF seems to have no problem.

We know our SADFDSS is a working tape because when we ipled without
z/vm,

there is no problem replying CONSOLE to the ADRY0005E message.

Can anyone guide me on what to check ? thanks.

Caleb





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