Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Robert J Brenneman
Is the 2109 zoned to allow the z10 to access the storage device?

Did you IPL a linux guest or LPAR and use it to drive a fabric login
or fabric discovery ?

The ESS and DS4700 will only show you the hosts which have contacted
them, since they don't do discovery of the host systems. The z10 will
not drive any discovery actions in the SAN by itself ( unlike other
platforms ) You have to bring up a Linux image and do a SAN fabric /
device scan or attempt to configure the FCP storage from z/VM.

-- 
Jay Brenneman


Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Carlos Bodra - Pessoal

 Robert,

Yes, 2109 and 2005 were zonned to allow z10 access. Same zone was used 
to test access to intel, so

zonned is working ok.

I can´t bring up a linux image, since I´m not able to define storage to 
be used by this image. My problem is

before try to bring up zvm 5.4 or linux under it.

Carlos Bodra
IBM zSeries Certified Specialist
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Em 27/09/2010 12:00, Robert J Brenneman escreveu:

Is the 2109 zoned to allow the z10 to access the storage device?

Did you IPL a linux guest or LPAR and use it to drive a fabric login
or fabric discovery ?

The ESS and DS4700 will only show you the hosts which have contacted
them, since they don't do discovery of the host systems. The z10 will
not drive any discovery actions in the SAN by itself ( unlike other
platforms ) You have to bring up a Linux image and do a SAN fabric /
device scan or attempt to configure the FCP storage from z/VM.



Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Riedel, Alexander
Do you have defined the FCP SCSI-WWPNs on the HMC? And set the flag Enable SCSI 
IPL ?

Alexander


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Robert,

Yes, 2109 and 2005 were zonned to allow z10 access. Same zone was used to test 
access to intel, so
zonned is working ok.

I can´t bring up a linux image, since I´m not able to define storage to be used 
by this image. My problem is
before try to bring up zvm 5.4 or linux under it.

Carlos Bodra
IBM zSeries Certified Specialist
Sao Paulo - Brazil

Em 27/09/2010 12:00, Robert J Brenneman escreveu:

Is the 2109 zoned to allow the z10 to access the storage device?

Did you IPL a linux guest or LPAR and use it to drive a fabric login
or fabric discovery ?

The ESS and DS4700 will only show you the hosts which have contacted
them, since they don't do discovery of the host systems. The z10 will
not drive any discovery actions in the SAN by itself ( unlike other
platforms ) You have to bring up a Linux image and do a SAN fabric /
device scan or attempt to configure the FCP storage from z/VM.




Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Raymond Higgs
Carlos,

z10 with ESS800 should work fine point-to-point.  That config was tested a 
lot here in Poughkeepsie.  We don't have a ds4700.  It should work though.

There is some configuration that needs to be done inside linux.  You need 
to tell linux which busid (device number), target wwpn, and lun to use. If 
you are using Suse, yast has a nice setup wizard.  Have you done any 
configuration inside of Linux?  The output of lszfcp -D, and lsscsi would 
be helpful.

If you are using edevs, then you need to tell vm which device number, 
target wwpn, and lun to use.

Regards,

Ray Higgs
System z FCP Development
Bld. 706, B24
2455 South Road
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
(845) 435-8666,  T/L 295-8666
rayhi...@us.ibm.com



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Hi

I´m trying to connect a z10 to a shark using FCP protocol, but without 
success.
We did some tests that are describe below:

1 - Connect z10 to shark 800 sw2 adapter with both sides defined as Ficon. 
Works fine

2 - Connect z10 to shark 800 sw2 adapter with both sides defined as FCP. 
Direct connection, no switch envolved. Didn´t work. We aren´t able to 
define open system storage in ESS Specialist. Seems that shark doesn´t 
see FCP adapter in z10. After reading some material (redbooks) we found 
information about that a direct connection didn´t work. Is mandatory use a 
switch.

3 - Connect z10 to shark 800 sw2 adapter with both sides defined as FCP 
and using an old IBM 2109-S16. Didn´t work. We aren´t able to define open 
system storage in ESS Specialist. Seems that shark doesn´t see FCP 
adapter in z10. 

4 - Connect z10 to shark 800 sw2 adapter with both sides defined as FCP 
and using an IBM 2005-B16. Didn´t work. We aren´t able to define open 
system storage in ESS Specialist. Seems that shark doesn´t see FCP 
adapter in z10. 

5 - Connect z10 to DS4700 via FC adapter with z10 define as FCP and 
storage defined as FC and using an old IBM 2109-S16. Didn´t work. We 
aren´t able to access open dasd. 

We checked microcode level for shark and seems to be ok. If I connect 
shark or DS4700 to an intel server, we are able to access open dasd 
without problems.

Since z10 with FCP access is new for us, any hint or tip about are 
welcome.

Thanks in advance.
-- 
Carlos Bodra 
IBM zSeries Certified Specialist 
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Riedel, Alexander
Have you read the Redbook Fibre Channel Protocol for Linux and z/VM on IBM 
System z ?

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg247266.pdf

Alexander


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Subject: Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

Robert,

Yes, 2109 and 2005 were zonned to allow z10 access. Same zone was used to test 
access to intel, so
zonned is working ok.

I can´t bring up a linux image, since I´m not able to define storage to be used 
by this image. My problem is
before try to bring up zvm 5.4 or linux under it.

Carlos Bodra
IBM zSeries Certified Specialist
Sao Paulo - Brazil

Em 27/09/2010 12:00, Robert J Brenneman escreveu:

Is the 2109 zoned to allow the z10 to access the storage device?

Did you IPL a linux guest or LPAR and use it to drive a fabric login
or fabric discovery ?

The ESS and DS4700 will only show you the hosts which have contacted
them, since they don't do discovery of the host systems. The z10 will
not drive any discovery actions in the SAN by itself ( unlike other
platforms ) You have to bring up a Linux image and do a SAN fabric /
device scan or attempt to configure the FCP storage from z/VM.




Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Raymond Higgs
Carlos,

What do you mean by My problem is before try to bring up zvm 5.4 or linux 
under it.?  I'm confused.  Are you trying to SCSI IPL vm?  If you 
installed a vm system onto ECKD storage on an ESS800, then you have to IPL 
it with your ficon channels.  If you have a scsi vm system, then use the 
fcp info that you installed with.

Ray Higgs
System z FCP Development
Bld. 706, B24
2455 South Road
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
(845) 435-8666,  T/L 295-8666
rayhi...@us.ibm.com

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 Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP
 
 Robert,
 
 Yes, 2109 and 2005 were zonned to allow z10 access. Same zone was 
 used to test access to intel, so
 zonned is working ok.
 
 I can´t bring up a linux image, since I´m not able to define storage
 to be used by this image. My problem is
 before try to bring up zvm 5.4 or linux under it.
 Carlos Bodra 
 IBM zSeries Certified Specialist 
 Sao Paulo - Brazil
 
 Em 27/09/2010 12:00, Robert J Brenneman escreveu: 
 Is the 2109 zoned to allow the z10 to access the storage device?
 
 Did you IPL a linux guest or LPAR and use it to drive a fabric login
 or fabric discovery ?
 
 The ESS and DS4700 will only show you the hosts which have contacted
 them, since they don't do discovery of the host systems. The z10 will
 not drive any discovery actions in the SAN by itself ( unlike other
 platforms ) You have to bring up a Linux image and do a SAN fabric /
 device scan or attempt to configure the FCP storage from z/VM.
 


Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Carlos Bodra - Pessoal

 Ray,

Sorry for a not so clear definition.

What happens is that we are trying to define Open System Storage in 
ESS800 and when we try to allocate dasd space to z10 (open space using 
FCP defined ports), ESS800 didn´t able to complete

configuration, so I can´t define a volume inside this space.

zvm was installed in eckd disks as traditional zvm does, but I´n not 
trying to ipl from fcp dasd yet, since I was not able to define it yet.


Problem seems to be something missing in definitions or wrong sequence.

As I describe in previous email, ports (at ess800 and z10) and fibre 
cable are ok, since if I chance ports to Ficon protocol all works fine.


A question arrised now: ports are SX (shot wave) in both sides, cable 
could be same used for Ficon? Or FC demands a specific cable?


Carlos Bodra
IBM zSeries Certified Specialist
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Em 27/09/2010 12:29, Raymond Higgs escreveu:


Carlos,

What do you mean by My problem is before try to bring up zvm 5.4 or 
linux under it.?  I'm confused.  Are you trying to SCSI IPL vm?  If 
you installed a vm system onto ECKD storage on an ESS800, then you 
have to IPL it with your ficon channels.  If you have a scsi vm 
system, then use the fcp info that you installed with.


Ray Higgs
System z FCP Development
Bld. 706, B24
2455 South Road
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
(845) 435-8666,  T/L 295-8666
rayhi...@us.ibm.com

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 Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

 Robert,

 Yes, 2109 and 2005 were zonned to allow z10 access. Same zone was
 used to test access to intel, so
 zonned is working ok.

 I can´t bring up a linux image, since I´m not able to define storage
 to be used by this image. My problem is
 before try to bring up zvm 5.4 or linux under it.
 Carlos Bodra
 IBM zSeries Certified Specialist
 Sao Paulo - Brazil

 Em 27/09/2010 12:00, Robert J Brenneman escreveu:
 Is the 2109 zoned to allow the z10 to access the storage device?

 Did you IPL a linux guest or LPAR and use it to drive a fabric login
 or fabric discovery ?

 The ESS and DS4700 will only show you the hosts which have contacted
 them, since they don't do discovery of the host systems. The z10 will
 not drive any discovery actions in the SAN by itself ( unlike other
 platforms ) You have to bring up a Linux image and do a SAN fabric /
 device scan or attempt to configure the FCP storage from z/VM.



Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Carlos Bodra - Pessoal

 Ray,

Just to clarify, can I connect directly z10 port defined as FCP (IOCP) 
to a ESS800 SW2 defined FCP? (no switch needed)


Carlos Bodra
IBM zSeries Certified Specialist
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Em 27/09/2010 12:20, Raymond Higgs escreveu:


Carlos,

z10 with ESS800 should work fine point-to-point.  That config was 
tested a lot here in Poughkeepsie.  We don't have a ds4700.  It should 
work though.


There is some configuration that needs to be done inside linux.  You 
need to tell linux which busid (device number), target wwpn, and lun 
to use.  If you are using Suse, yast has a nice setup wizard.  Have 
you done any configuration inside of Linux?  The output of lszfcp -D, 
and lsscsi would be helpful.


If you are using edevs, then you need to tell vm which device number, 
target wwpn, and lun to use.


Regards,

Ray Higgs
System z FCP Development
Bld. 706, B24
2455 South Road
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
(845) 435-8666,  T/L 295-8666
rayhi...@us.ibm.com


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Hi

I´m trying to connect a z10 to a shark using FCP protocol, but without 
success.

We did some tests that are describe below:

1 - Connect z10 to shark 800 sw2 adapter with both sides defined as 
Ficon. Works fine


2 - Connect z10 to shark 800 sw2 adapter with both sides defined as 
FCP. Direct connection, no switch envolved. Didn´t work. We aren´t 
able to define open system storage in ESS Specialist. Seems that shark 
doesn´t see FCP adapter in z10. After reading some material 
(redbooks) we found information about that a direct connection didn´t 
work. Is mandatory use a switch.


3 - Connect z10 to shark 800 sw2 adapter with both sides defined as 
FCP and using an old IBM 2109-S16. Didn´t work. We aren´t able to 
define open system storage in ESS Specialist. Seems that shark doesn´t 
see FCP adapter in z10.


4 - Connect z10 to shark 800 sw2 adapter with both sides defined as 
FCP and using an IBM 2005-B16. Didn´t work. We aren´t able to define 
open system storage in ESS Specialist. Seems that shark doesn´t see 
FCP adapter in z10.


5 - Connect z10 to DS4700 via FC adapter with z10 define as FCP and 
storage defined as FC and using an old IBM 2109-S16. Didn´t work. We 
aren´t able to access open dasd.


We checked microcode level for shark and seems to be ok. If I connect 
shark or DS4700 to an intel server, we are able to access open dasd 
without problems.


Since z10 with FCP access is new for us, any hint or tip about are 
welcome.


Thanks in advance.
--
Carlos Bodra
IBM zSeries Certified Specialist
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 09/27/2010 at 12:55 EDT, Carlos Bodra - Pessoal 
cbo...@terra.com.br wrote:

 As I describe in previous email, ports (at ess800 and z10) and fibre 
cable are 
 ok, since if I chance ports to Ficon protocol all works fine. 
 
 A question arrised now: ports are SX (shot wave) in both sides, cable 
could be 
 same used for Ficon? Or FC demands a specific cable?

You say that it works ok if you change the *ports* to FICON.  Did you 
remember to change (and activate) the IOCDS to define the chpid as 
TYPE=FCP instead of TYPE=FC?

Alan Altmark

z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training 
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices 
office: 607.429.3323
alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
IBM Endicott


Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Carlos Bodra - Pessoal

 Hi Alan,

Yes, I changed IOCDS and did a power on reset. Since this machine isn´t 
in production, I can do POR as I need.


Carlos Bodra
IBM zSeries Certified Specialist
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Em 27/09/2010 14:03, Alan Altmark escreveu:

On Monday, 09/27/2010 at 12:55 EDT, Carlos Bodra - Pessoal
cbo...@terra.com.br  wrote:


As I describe in previous email, ports (at ess800 and z10) and fibre

cable are

ok, since if I chance ports to Ficon protocol all works fine.

A question arrised now: ports are SX (shot wave) in both sides, cable

could be

same used for Ficon? Or FC demands a specific cable?

You say that it works ok if you change the *ports* to FICON.  Did you
remember to change (and activate) the IOCDS to define the chpid as
TYPE=FCP instead of TYPE=FC?

Alan Altmark

z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices
office: 607.429.3323
alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
IBM Endicott


Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Robert J Brenneman
If you wish to have the z10's WWPN appear in the ESS you'll have to
get a Linux image up and running first and attempt to configure the
non-existant LUN. This can be either an existing image installed on
ECKD DASD or the Linux Installation media loaded from the VM RDR.

It's a chicken and egg problem: you need Linux to connect to the ESS
so that you can create the LUN to attach to Linux.

-- 
Jay Brenneman


Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Sterling James
It's a chicken and egg problem: you need Linux to connect to the ESS
so that you can create the LUN to attach to Linux.

Couldn't you accomplish the same result by defining an EDEV with a 
non-existant LUN through VM?


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Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Robert J Brenneman
That'll be easier to drive the initial fabric and device login that
the ESS is looking for, but I'm not as familiar with how you'd use the
VM tools to debug zoning or lun masking issues - I'm more familiar
with the Linux tools.

If you're more of a VM person than a Linux person it's probably a
better approach though.



-- 
Jay Brenneman


Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Raymond Higgs
Carlos,

Yes.

Ray Higgs
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 Just to clarify, can I connect directly z10 port defined as FCP 
 (IOCP) to a ESS800 SW2 defined FCP? (no switch needed)
 Carlos Bodra 
 IBM zSeries Certified Specialist 
 Sao Paulo - Brazil
 
 Em 27/09/2010 12:20, Raymond Higgs escreveu: 
 
 Carlos, 
 
 z10 with ESS800 should work fine point-to-point.  That config was 
 tested a lot here in Poughkeepsie.  We don't have a ds4700.  It 
 should work though. 
 
 There is some configuration that needs to be done inside linux.  You
 need to tell linux which busid (device number), target wwpn, and lun
 to use.  If you are using Suse, yast has a nice setup wizard.  Have 
 you done any configuration inside of Linux?  The output of lszfcp -
 D, and lsscsi would be helpful. 
 
 If you are using edevs, then you need to tell vm which device 
 number, target wwpn, and lun to use. 
 
 Regards, 
 
 Ray Higgs
 System z FCP Development
 Bld. 706, B24
 2455 South Road
 Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
 (845) 435-8666,  T/L 295-8666
 rayhi...@us.ibm.com 
 

 
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 Hi
 
 I´m trying to connect a z10 to a shark using FCP protocol, but 
 without success.
 We did some tests that are describe below:
 
 1 - Connect z10 to shark 800 sw2 adapter with both sides defined as 
 Ficon. Works fine
 
 2 - Connect z10 to shark 800 sw2 adapter with both sides defined as 
 FCP. Direct connection, no switch envolved. Didn´t work. We aren´t 
 able to define open system storage in ESS Specialist. Seems that 
 shark doesn´t see FCP adapter in z10. After reading some material 
 (redbooks) we found information about that a direct connection 
 didn´t work. Is mandatory use a switch.
 
 3 - Connect z10 to shark 800 sw2 adapter with both sides defined as 
 FCP and using an old IBM 2109-S16. Didn´t work. We aren´t able to 
 define open system storage in ESS Specialist. Seems that shark 
 doesn´t see FCP adapter in z10. 
 
 4 - Connect z10 to shark 800 sw2 adapter with both sides defined as 
 FCP and using an IBM 2005-B16. Didn´t work. We aren´t able to define
 open system storage in ESS Specialist. Seems that shark doesn´t 
 see FCP adapter in z10. 
 
 5 - Connect z10 to DS4700 via FC adapter with z10 define as FCP and 
 storage defined as FC and using an old IBM 2109-S16. Didn´t work. We
 aren´t able to access open dasd. 
 
 We checked microcode level for shark and seems to be ok. If I 
 connect shark or DS4700 to an intel server, we are able to access 
 open dasd without problems.
 
 Since z10 with FCP access is new for us, any hint or tip about are 
welcome.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 -- 
 Carlos Bodra 
 IBM zSeries Certified Specialist 
 Sao Paulo - Brazil 

Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Raymond Higgs
Carlos,

Yes, the short wave optics and fibre that worked as ficon will work as 
FCP.

Ray Higgs
System z FCP Development
Bld. 706, B24
2455 South Road
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
(845) 435-8666,  T/L 295-8666
rayhi...@us.ibm.com

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 Sorry for a not so clear definition.
 
 What happens is that we are trying to define Open System Storage in 
 ESS800 and when we try to allocate dasd space to z10 (open space 
 using FCP defined ports), ESS800 didn´t able to complete
 configuration, so I can´t define a volume inside this space.
 
 zvm was installed in eckd disks as traditional zvm does, but I´n not
 trying to ipl from fcp dasd yet, since I was not able to define it yet.
 
 Problem seems to be something missing in definitions or wrong sequence. 
 
 As I describe in previous email, ports (at ess800 and z10) and fibre
 cable are ok, since if I chance ports to Ficon protocol all works fine. 
 
 A question arrised now: ports are SX (shot wave) in both sides, 
 cable could be same used for Ficon? Or FC demands a specific cable?

 Carlos Bodra 
 IBM zSeries Certified Specialist 
 Sao Paulo - Brazil
 
 Em 27/09/2010 12:29, Raymond Higgs escreveu: 
 
 Carlos, 
 
 What do you mean by My problem is before try to bring up zvm 5.4 or
 linux under it.?  I'm confused.  Are you trying to SCSI IPL vm?  If
 you installed a vm system onto ECKD storage on an ESS800, then you 
 have to IPL it with your ficon channels.  If you have a scsi vm 
 system, then use the fcp info that you installed with. 
 
 Ray Higgs
 System z FCP Development
 Bld. 706, B24
 2455 South Road
 Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
 (845) 435-8666,  T/L 295-8666
 rayhi...@us.ibm.com 
 
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  Yes, 2109 and 2005 were zonned to allow z10 access. Same zone was 
  used to test access to intel, so
  zonned is working ok.
  
  I can´t bring up a linux image, since I´m not able to define storage
  to be used by this image. My problem is
  before try to bring up zvm 5.4 or linux under it. 
  Carlos Bodra 
  IBM zSeries Certified Specialist 
  Sao Paulo - Brazil 
  
  Em 27/09/2010 12:00, Robert J Brenneman escreveu: 
  Is the 2109 zoned to allow the z10 to access the storage device?
  
  Did you IPL a linux guest or LPAR and use it to drive a fabric login
  or fabric discovery ?
  
  The ESS and DS4700 will only show you the hosts which have contacted
  them, since they don't do discovery of the host systems. The z10 will
  not drive any discovery actions in the SAN by itself ( unlike other
  platforms ) You have to bring up a Linux image and do a SAN fabric /
  device scan or attempt to configure the FCP storage from z/VM.
  

Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP

2010-09-27 Thread Raymond Higgs
Carlos,

If you are having problems creating volumes on the ESS800, then this is 
not a problem with your mainframe.  Updating the IOCDS isn't going to help 
create these volumes.

Ray Higgs
System z FCP Development
Bld. 706, B24
2455 South Road
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
(845) 435-8666,  T/L 295-8666
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 Re: z10 shark 800 and FCP
 
 Ray,
 
 Sorry for a not so clear definition.
 
 What happens is that we are trying to define Open System Storage in 
 ESS800 and when we try to allocate dasd space to z10 (open space 
 using FCP defined ports), ESS800 didn´t able to complete
 configuration, so I can´t define a volume inside this space.
 
 zvm was installed in eckd disks as traditional zvm does, but I´n not
 trying to ipl from fcp dasd yet, since I was not able to define it yet.
 
 Problem seems to be something missing in definitions or wrong sequence. 
 
 As I describe in previous email, ports (at ess800 and z10) and fibre
 cable are ok, since if I chance ports to Ficon protocol all works fine. 
 
 A question arrised now: ports are SX (shot wave) in both sides, 
 cable could be same used for Ficon? Or FC demands a specific cable?

 Carlos Bodra 
 IBM zSeries Certified Specialist 
 Sao Paulo - Brazil
 
 Em 27/09/2010 12:29, Raymond Higgs escreveu: 
 
 Carlos, 
 
 What do you mean by My problem is before try to bring up zvm 5.4 or
 linux under it.?  I'm confused.  Are you trying to SCSI IPL vm?  If
 you installed a vm system onto ECKD storage on an ESS800, then you 
 have to IPL it with your ficon channels.  If you have a scsi vm 
 system, then use the fcp info that you installed with. 
 
 Ray Higgs
 System z FCP Development
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  Robert,
  
  Yes, 2109 and 2005 were zonned to allow z10 access. Same zone was 
  used to test access to intel, so
  zonned is working ok.
  
  I can´t bring up a linux image, since I´m not able to define storage
  to be used by this image. My problem is
  before try to bring up zvm 5.4 or linux under it. 
  Carlos Bodra 
  IBM zSeries Certified Specialist 
  Sao Paulo - Brazil 
  
  Em 27/09/2010 12:00, Robert J Brenneman escreveu: 
  Is the 2109 zoned to allow the z10 to access the storage device?
  
  Did you IPL a linux guest or LPAR and use it to drive a fabric login
  or fabric discovery ?
  
  The ESS and DS4700 will only show you the hosts which have contacted
  them, since they don't do discovery of the host systems. The z10 will
  not drive any discovery actions in the SAN by itself ( unlike other
  platforms ) You have to bring up a Linux image and do a SAN fabric /
  device scan or attempt to configure the FCP storage from z/VM.