Re: Sending an OS file from VM with FTP
Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :- The FTP client wants filename, filetype, and filemode. You need to unload the RACF database to a CMS file and FTP *that* to the MVS site. From there it can be FTP'd back to a VM system and then the database reloaded from the CMS file. Alternatively, you can use DDR2CMS to create a DDR image of the disk and send that instead. Do not copy a minidisk containing a live RACF database unless you are using a RACF/VM utility (RACUTxxx) that specifically calls out the ability to run it against a live database. Some of the utilities do not serialize changes to the database. Thanks for that. To explain a little more of the background. The DR site has just one system up all the time (an MVS system). The current process (on production MVS) takes a IRRUT400 copy of the VM RACF database and then FTP's that to a dataset on the DR MVS system. The DR MVS system then reloads the DR database while VM is down. Due to changes in the volume structure that are necessary in order to run the VM RACUTxxx utilities (they don't tolerate extended/supplementary VTOC's on the output volumes) it is probable that production MVS will no longer be able to read the volumes holding the VM RACF database in order to FTP it. Naturally, any VM procedure would involve taking our own RACUT400 copy as a base for transfer. We had thought about DDR2CMS and that was our last resort because the restore would require more manual intervention. It looks like a MOVEFILE of the RACUT400 copy to a CMS file as the basis for FTP will do the job and leave the restore procedure on the DR site unchanged. Colin Allinson Amadeus Data Processing GmbH
Sending an OS file from VM with FTP
I would like to FTP send an OS dataset (in this case a copy of the RACF database) to an MVS system at the DR site. I have tried various ways to define the input (Access the OS disk as T and then LCD T) but without success. Is this possible and, if so, how do I do it? Thanks in advance, Colin Allinson Amadeus Data Processing GmbH Germany
Re: Sending an OS file from VM with FTP
I do not know if FTP can read an OS/390 dataset. If not, you should use MOVEFILE to put it on a T-DISK, SFS, or MINIDISK, then FTP it from there. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colin Allinson Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:19 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Sending an OS file from VM with FTP I would like to FTP send an OS dataset (in this case a copy of the RACF database) to an MVS system at the DR site. I have tried various ways to define the input (Access the OS disk as T and then LCD T) but without success. Is this possible and, if so, how do I do it? Thanks in advance, Colin Allinson Amadeus Data Processing GmbH Germany This message w/attachments (message) may be privileged, confidential or proprietary, and if you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, do not use or share it and delete it. Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or service, an official confirmation of any transaction, or an official statement of Merrill Lynch. Subject to applicable law, Merrill Lynch may monitor, review and retain e-communications (EC) traveling through its networks/systems. The laws of the country of each sender/recipient may impact the handling of EC, and EC may be archived, supervised and produced in countries other than the country in which you are located. This message cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. This message is subject to terms available at the following link: http://www.ml.com/e-communications_terms/. By messaging with Merrill Lynch you consent to the foregoing.
Re: Sending an OS file from VM with FTP
Stracka, James (GTS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not know if FTP can read an OS/390 dataset. If not, you should use MOVEFILE to put it on a T-DISK, SFS, or MINIDISK, then FTP it from there. Looks as if that will do the trick. Now why did I not think of that one;-( Thanks Colin Allinson Amadeus Data Processing GmbH
Re: Sending an OS file from VM with FTP
I remember I have seen a utility listed in xephon Update for MVS that converts an MVS dataset to an 80 bytes files. And, it converts it back to MVS dataset again. It is an assembler source code. I was using it to deliver files to customers. Luis F. Ordonez Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 29 May 2008, Colin Allinson wrote: I would like to FTP send an OS dataset (in this case a copy of the RACF database) to an MVS system at the DR site. I have tried various ways to define the input (Access the OS disk as T and then LCD T) but without success. Is this possible and, if so, how do I do it? Thanks in advance, Colin Allinson Amadeus Data Processing GmbH Germany
Re: Sending an OS file from VM with FTP
I don't remember where I got it and it doesn't seem to have any authorshi p listed, but there is a PLI program for MVS 3.8 (still works under z/OS 1. 6) that can read a dataset and create CMS's DISK DUMP format cards, it can a lso read DISK DUMP cards and create an OS dataset. It is meant for transferin g data between CMS and MVS, but I don't see whay it can't be used between O S systems. /Tom Kern /301-903-2211 On Thu, 29 May 2008 13:16:54 -0400, Luis F Ordonez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wro te: I remember I have seen a utility listed in xephon Update for MVS that converts an MVS dataset to an 80 bytes files. And, it converts it back t o MVS dataset again. It is an assembler source code. I was using it to deliver files to customers. Luis F. Ordonez Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sending an OS file from VM with FTP
TSO XMIT works for this purpose as well (doesn't do DISK DUMP, but you get a 80 col file). I don't remember where I got it and it doesn't seem to have any authorshi p listed, but there is a PLI program for MVS 3.8 (still works under z/OS 1. 6) that can read a dataset and create CMS's DISK DUMP format cards, it can a lso read DISK DUMP cards and create an OS dataset. It is meant for transferin g data between CMS and MVS, but I don't see whay it can't be used between O S systems.
Re: Sending an OS file from VM with FTP
And my process for moving EREP data to MVS for combined processing predat es TSO's XMIT/RECEIVE commands. /Tom Kern /301-903-2211 On Thu, 29 May 2008 13:49:52 -0400, David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] w rote: TSO XMIT works for this purpose as well (doesn't do DISK DUMP, but you get a 80 col file).
Re: Sending an OS file from VM with FTP
On Thursday, 05/29/2008 at 07:20 EDT, Colin Allinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to FTP send an OS dataset (in this case a copy of the RACF database) to an MVS system at the DR site. I have tried various ways to define the input (Access the OS disk as T and then LCD T) but without success. Is this possible and, if so, how do I do it? The FTP client wants filename, filetype, and filemode. You need to unload the RACF database to a CMS file and FTP *that* to the MVS site. From there it can be FTP'd back to a VM system and then the database reloaded from the CMS file. Alternatively, you can use DDR2CMS to create a DDR image of the disk and send that instead. Do not copy a minidisk containing a live RACF database unless you are using a RACF/VM utility (RACUTxxx) that specifically calls out the ability to run it against a live database. Some of the utilities do not serialize changes to the database. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
