Spool/page devices online at ipl
This extends a question I had earlier about DDRing spool and page dasd and conflicts with device names at ipl (ie the DDRed spool and page volumes share the same volser as production). Will using the DEVICE ONLINE/DEVICE OFFLINE statement in SYSTEM CONFIG prevent that from occuring? Or are spool/page initialized before SYSTEM CONFIG is read? Thanks, Chris
Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl
ONLINE/OFFLINE in SYSTEM CONFIG is OK. Only the resident is online at that time. 2007/3/7, Little, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This extends a question I had earlier about DDRing spool and page dasd and conflicts with device names at ipl (ie the DDRed spool and page volumes share the same volser as production). Will using the DEVICE ONLINE/DEVICE OFFLINE statement in SYSTEM CONFIG prevent that from occuring? Or are spool/page initialized before SYSTEM CONFIG is read? Thanks, Chris -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl
You can ddr it and then relabel it prior to IPLing the copy. Just change user direct and system config on the copy. There is an example of relabeling in the cookbook p 57. MA On 3/7/07, David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... but you should take any means necessary to avoid duplicate labels! ... David From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Kris Buelens Sent: Wed 3/7/2007 10:03 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Spool/page devices online at ipl ONLINE/OFFLINE in SYSTEM CONFIG is OK. Only the resident is online at that time. 2007/3/7, Little, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This extends a question I had earlier about DDRing spool and page dasd and conflicts with device names at ipl (ie the DDRed spool and page volumes share the same volser as production). Will using the DEVICE ONLINE/DEVICE OFFLINE statement in SYSTEM CONFIG prevent that from occuring? Or are spool/page initialized before SYSTEM CONFIG is read? Thanks, Chris -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl
They cannot be initialized before reading the CONFIG file because it is possible to have different sysown lists in different files. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Little, Chris Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 6:56 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Spool/page devices online at ipl This extends a question I had earlier about DDRing spool and page dasd and conflicts with device names at ipl (ie the DDRed spool and page volumes share the same volser as production). Will using the DEVICE ONLINE/DEVICE OFFLINE statement in SYSTEM CONFIG prevent that from occuring? Or are spool/page initialized before SYSTEM CONFIG is read? Thanks, Chris
Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl
Without using the cookbook (where would I find it?), I updated the system config and relabelled the dasd a couple of weeks ago. It came up, said it couldn't find spool and deleted it all. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Anne Matyaz Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:36 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl You can ddr it and then relabel it prior to IPLing the copy. Just change user direct and system config on the copy. There is an example of relabeling in the cookbook p 57. MA On 3/7/07, David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... but you should take any means necessary to avoid duplicate labels! ... David From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Kris Buelens Sent: Wed 3/7/2007 10:03 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Spool/page devices online at ipl ONLINE/OFFLINE in SYSTEM CONFIG is OK. Only the resident is online at that time. 2007/3/7, Little, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This extends a question I had earlier about DDRing spool and page dasd and conflicts with device names at ipl (ie the DDRed spool and page volumes share the same volser as production). Will using the DEVICE ONLINE/DEVICE OFFLINE statement in SYSTEM CONFIG prevent that from occuring? Or are spool/page initialized before SYSTEM CONFIG is read? Thanks, Chris -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl
You'd have to change user direct as well, do a change/oldvol/newvol/* * to get them all. Once we had to format the pack as spool prior to the ddr but other times not. 99% of the time we have to force the spool anyway, but don't have to rebuild the segments. MA On 3/7/07, Little, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without using the cookbook (where would I find it?), I updated the system config and relabelled the dasd a couple of weeks ago. It came up, said it couldn't find spool and deleted it all. -- *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Mary Anne Matyaz *Sent:* Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:36 AM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl You can ddr it and then relabel it prior to IPLing the copy. Just change user direct and system config on the copy. There is an example of relabeling in the cookbook p 57. MA On 3/7/07, David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... but you should take any means necessary to avoid duplicate labels! ... David From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Kris Buelens Sent: Wed 3/7/2007 10:03 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Spool/page devices online at ipl ONLINE/OFFLINE in SYSTEM CONFIG is OK. Only the resident is online at that time. 2007/3/7, Little, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This extends a question I had earlier about DDRing spool and page dasd and conflicts with device names at ipl (ie the DDRed spool and page volumes share the same volser as production). Will using the DEVICE ONLINE/DEVICE OFFLINE statement in SYSTEM CONFIG prevent that from occuring? Or are spool/page initialized before SYSTEM CONFIG is read? Thanks, Chris -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl
You must have made another error: if you relabel and change all labels in SYSTEM CONFIG, the SPOOL must be found. You must find the the labels in the CP OWNED list and the one disk for Checkpoint+Warm start area (by default on the resident). If you forget the changes in the CP directory, no minidisks will be found, hence IPL CMS will not work. You'd need to use DEFINE MDISK to get hold on MAINT 190 (to find the CMS S-disk and DIRECTXA) and the location of the CP directory source. 2007/3/7, Little, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Without using the cookbook (where would I find it?), I updated the system config and relabelled the dasd a couple of weeks ago. It came up, said it couldn't find spool and deleted it all. -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl
FYI, the cookbooks are redbooks, one for RHEL: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247272.html?Open and one for SLES: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246695.html?Open MA On 3/7/07, Little, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without using the cookbook (where would I find it?), I updated the system config and relabelled the dasd a couple of weeks ago. It came up, said it couldn't find spool and deleted it all. -- *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Mary Anne Matyaz *Sent:* Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:36 AM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl You can ddr it and then relabel it prior to IPLing the copy. Just change user direct and system config on the copy. There is an example of relabeling in the cookbook p 57. MA On 3/7/07, David Kreuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... but you should take any means necessary to avoid duplicate labels! ... David From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Kris Buelens Sent: Wed 3/7/2007 10:03 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Spool/page devices online at ipl ONLINE/OFFLINE in SYSTEM CONFIG is OK. Only the resident is online at that time. 2007/3/7, Little, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This extends a question I had earlier about DDRing spool and page dasd and conflicts with device names at ipl (ie the DDRed spool and page volumes share the same volser as production). Will using the DEVICE ONLINE/DEVICE OFFLINE statement in SYSTEM CONFIG prevent that from occuring? Or are spool/page initialized before SYSTEM CONFIG is read? Thanks, Chris -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl
During the IPL VM reads the SYSTEM CONFIG file to find the spool and page volumes. About the only thing that is done before SYSTEM CONFIG is loading the VM nucleus. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This extends a question I had earlier about DDRing spool and page dasd and conflicts with device names at ipl (ie the DDRed spool and page volumes share the same volser as production). Will using the DEVICE ONLINE/DEVICE OFFLINE statement in SYSTEM CONFIG prevent that from occuring? Or are spool/page initialized before SYSTEM CONFIG is read? Thanks, Chris -- Stephen Frazier Information Technology Unit Oklahoma Department of Corrections 3400 Martin Luther King Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298 Tel.: (405) 425-2549 Fax: (405) 425-2554 Pager: (405) 690-1828 email: stevef%doc.state.ok.us
Re: Spool/page devices online at ipl
You probably changed the order of the spool volumes. That will force the spool to be empty. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without using the cookbook (where would I find it?), I updated the system config and relabelled the dasd a couple of weeks ago. It came up, said it couldn't find spool and deleted it all. -- Stephen Frazier Information Technology Unit Oklahoma Department of Corrections 3400 Martin Luther King Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298 Tel.: (405) 425-2549 Fax: (405) 425-2554 Pager: (405) 690-1828 email: stevef%doc.state.ok.us
