Re: VARY command update?

2011-03-20 Thread Jeff Gribbin
... and good stuff too from Melinda Varian and others on the Distribution
Page ...

http://vm.marist.edu/~pipeline/

http://vm.marist.edu/~pipeline/#MWV


Re: VARY command update?

2011-03-19 Thread Kris Buelens
Or, have a look at our Pipelines Telecourse, TCVM2, a selfstudy course.
  http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?TCVM2
it is meant for starters

2011/3/18 George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com

 Is there a PIPE for Dummies book somewhere?

 It seems to be a universal panacea and people, like Marcy here, just
 magically pluck these things out of thin air as though it were common
 knowledge.

 Where are the cheat sheets?




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 Happened to watch operations today in a disaster test...

 Typing vary on proc 01   vary on proc 02...
 Is a bit tedious when you've got more than a handful.

 How about a VARY ON PROC ALL ?

 (Yes, I gave him a pipe command and yes we can do this in an exec), but it
 would be nice if the CP command could do this.  Then they can look it up in
 the IBM doc.



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VARY command update?

2011-03-18 Thread Marcy Cortes
Happened to watch operations today in a disaster test...

Typing vary on proc 01   vary on proc 02...
Is a bit tedious when you've got more than a handful.

How about a VARY ON PROC ALL ?

(Yes, I gave him a pipe command and yes we can do this in an exec), but it 
would be nice if the CP command could do this.  Then they can look it up in the 
IBM doc.



Marcy 


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Re: VARY command update?

2011-03-18 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
Is there a PIPE for Dummies book somewhere?

It seems to be a universal panacea and people, like Marcy here, just 
magically pluck these things out of thin air as though it were common 
knowledge.

Where are the cheat sheets?





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Happened to watch operations today in a disaster test...

Typing vary on proc 01   vary on proc 02...
Is a bit tedious when you've got more than a handful.

How about a VARY ON PROC ALL ?

(Yes, I gave him a pipe command and yes we can do this in an exec), but it 
would be nice if the CP command could do this.  Then they can look it up 
in the IBM doc.



Marcy 


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Re: VARY command update?

2011-03-18 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 03/18/2011 at 05:20 EDT, George Henke/NYLIC 
george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote:
 Is there a PIPE for Dummies book somewhere? 
 
 It seems to be a universal panacea and people, like Marcy here, just 
magically 
 pluck these things out of thin air as though it were common knowledge. 

Though they existed long before, they have been in the VM product since 
CMS Level 7 or 8, IIRC.  We're up to level 25 now. 
 
 Where are the cheat sheets? 

http://www.vm.ibm.com/pipelines/

Start with Will Roden's Pipelines online tutorials.

Alan Altmark

z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training 
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices 
office: 607.429.3323
mobile; 607.321.7556
alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
IBM Endicott


Re: VARY command update?

2011-03-18 Thread James Laing - Hotmail
In my experience - the best way to learn pipes - is to trawl any and all execs 
that you can find and look at how they use pipes to solve problems. For me - I 
do not know about anyone else - but I had to adopt a new way of looking at the 
problem - like writing assembler - an atomic approach to solving a problem by 
the incremental refinement step by step - until I got the output I wanted. 
Sometimes I found developing a pipe very tiresome - but once you get used to 
the idea that within a pipe you can arrange the input data to suit your needs 
(or indeed a format needed so that it complies with the selection/operation 
by/on/of a builtin stage - any way you like) - operate on it and output what 
you need - then it becomes a second to none tool that I got hooked on.


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Is there a PIPE for Dummies book somewhere? 

It seems to be a universal panacea and people, like Marcy here, just magically 
pluck these things out of thin air as though it were common knowledge. 

Where are the cheat sheets? 




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Happened to watch operations today in a disaster test...

Typing vary on proc 01   vary on proc 02...
Is a bit tedious when you've got more than a handful.

How about a VARY ON PROC ALL ?

(Yes, I gave him a pipe command and yes we can do this in an exec), but it 
would be nice if the CP command could do this.  Then they can look it up in the 
IBM doc.



Marcy 


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Re: VARY command update?

2011-03-18 Thread Marcy Cortes
I've been around VM 25 years.  I started when I was 6 obviously ;)

pipe cp q proc | spec /vary on proc/ 1 w2 nw | cp

Obvious, huh ?

Yeah, I'm sure the operator thought I was speaking greek too.

They really do try to be very self sufficient and not bug the systems staff for 
commands.  I appreciate that.
But they aren't programmers or plumbers.



Marcy 


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Is there a PIPE for Dummies book somewhere? 

It seems to be a universal panacea and people, like Marcy here, just magically 
pluck these things out of thin air as though it were common knowledge. 

Where are the cheat sheets? 



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Happened to watch operations today in a disaster test...

Typing vary on proc 01   vary on proc 02...    
Is a bit tedious when you've got more than a handful.

How about a VARY ON PROC ALL ?

(Yes, I gave him a pipe command and yes we can do this in an exec), but it 
would be nice if the CP command could do this.  Then they can look it up in the 
IBM doc.



Marcy 


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