z/VM 5.4 Installation from DVD Failure - PJBR

2009-03-17 Thread jose raul baron
Hi all, 
 
We are currently installing a second-level z/VM via DVD installation and we
are getting this error when issuing the command: 
 
pipe ftpget -h ipaddr -u user -p password -d ftpdir -v BEF -DVDEOF
-f CKD222* | unpack | eckdrest  

 
CKD222*   
DMSRXS1408W File TCPIP DATA * not found   
ECKDREST: WARNING: 75 TRACKS WERE RESTORED AND 75 ADDITIONAL TRACKS WERE
CLEARED
ECKDREST: WROTE 150 TRACKS ON , RC=1

Ready(1);

 
Has anyone an idea of what the problem could be ?  We haven't been able to
locate the error and find a solution. 
 
Thanks in advance, 
 


José R. Barón 
Dpto. Sistemas 
CALCULO S.A. 
Pza. de las Cortes, 2 
28014 Madrid 
Tel. 91 330 86 44 / E-mail:  mailto:jba...@calculo-sa.es
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Re: z/VM 5.4 Installation from DVD Failure - PJBR

2009-03-17 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:41 AM, jose raul baron jba...@calculo-sa.es wrote:
 Hi all,

 We are currently installing a second-level z/VM via DVD installation and we
 are getting this error when issuing the command:

 pipe ftpget -h ipaddr -u user -p password -d ftpdir -v BEF -DVDEOF
 -f CKD222* | unpack | eckdrest
 

 CKD222*
 DMSRXS1408W File TCPIP DATA * not found
 ECKDREST: WARNING: 75 TRACKS WERE RESTORED AND 75 ADDITIONAL TRACKS WERE
 CLEARED
 ECKDREST: WROTE 150 TRACKS ON ,
 RC=1
 Ready(1);

Are you sure the  disk is R/W and that it is the right size?   I
tried to do it from the quick ref guide and found that it was
missing some of the steps that you need (and are only in the real
book).
IIRC this looks like the original disk was 5 cyl and yours is 10, and
that the RC=1 is an indication that it went fine..   Access the mini
disk and see what's there and whether it looks reliable. If it was
initially empty and now has a lot of files, then you're probably good
to go.

Rob


Re: z/VM 5.4 Installation from DVD Failure - PJBR

2009-03-17 Thread jose raul baron
Rob, just a quick note. The size for minidisk  must be EXACTLY of 5 cyl.
Not less AND NOT MORE :-)
if more than 5 cyl. are defined you get RC=1. 

This goes too with the other disks that must be EXACTLY of: 

- Minidisk 22CC:   5 cyl.
- Minidisk 2CF1: 120 cyl.  

BRGDS and thank you again for your help. 


José R. Barón
Dpto. Sistemas
CALCULO S.A. 
Pza. de las Cortes, 2
28014 Madrid
Tel. 91 330 86 44 / E-mail: jba...@calculo-sa.es 
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-Mensaje original-
De: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] En nombre
de Rob van der Heij
Enviado el: martes, 17 de marzo de 2009 11:57
Para: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Asunto: Re: z/VM 5.4 Installation from DVD Failure - PJBR

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:41 AM, jose raul baron jba...@calculo-sa.es
wrote:
 Hi all,

 We are currently installing a second-level z/VM via DVD installation and
we
 are getting this error when issuing the command:

 pipe ftpget -h ipaddr -u user -p password -d ftpdir -v BEF -DVDEOF
 -f CKD222* | unpack | eckdrest
 

 CKD222*
 DMSRXS1408W File TCPIP DATA * not found
 ECKDREST: WARNING: 75 TRACKS WERE RESTORED AND 75 ADDITIONAL TRACKS WERE
 CLEARED
 ECKDREST: WROTE 150 TRACKS ON ,
 RC=1
 Ready(1);

Are you sure the  disk is R/W and that it is the right size?   I
tried to do it from the quick ref guide and found that it was
missing some of the steps that you need (and are only in the real
book).
IIRC this looks like the original disk was 5 cyl and yours is 10, and
that the RC=1 is an indication that it went fine..   Access the mini
disk and see what's there and whether it looks reliable. If it was
initially empty and now has a lot of files, then you're probably good
to go.

Rob


Re: z/VM 5.4 Installation from DVD Failure - PJBR

2009-03-17 Thread jose raul baron
Hi Rob. Yes, I have looked into my  disk and it varied from being empty
to be filled with lots of files (67 files to be more accurate). I suppose
this is no big problem, but just wanted to make sure. (The old costume to
look for RC=0's).

I will take your advise and go on. 

Thanks for your help once again. 

BRGDS,



José R. Barón
Dpto. Sistemas
CALCULO S.A. 



-Mensaje original-
De: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] En nombre
de Rob van der Heij
Enviado el: martes, 17 de marzo de 2009 11:57
Para: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Asunto: Re: z/VM 5.4 Installation from DVD Failure - PJBR

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:41 AM, jose raul baron jba...@calculo-sa.es
wrote:
 Hi all,

 We are currently installing a second-level z/VM via DVD installation and
we
 are getting this error when issuing the command:

 pipe ftpget -h ipaddr -u user -p password -d ftpdir -v BEF -DVDEOF
 -f CKD222* | unpack | eckdrest
 

 CKD222*
 DMSRXS1408W File TCPIP DATA * not found
 ECKDREST: WARNING: 75 TRACKS WERE RESTORED AND 75 ADDITIONAL TRACKS WERE
 CLEARED
 ECKDREST: WROTE 150 TRACKS ON ,
 RC=1
 Ready(1);

Are you sure the  disk is R/W and that it is the right size?   I
tried to do it from the quick ref guide and found that it was
missing some of the steps that you need (and are only in the real
book).
IIRC this looks like the original disk was 5 cyl and yours is 10, and
that the RC=1 is an indication that it went fine..   Access the mini
disk and see what's there and whether it looks reliable. If it was
initially empty and now has a lot of files, then you're probably good
to go.

Rob


Re: z/VM 5.4 Installation from DVD Failure - PJBR

2009-03-17 Thread Adam Thornton

On Mar 17, 2009, at 5:56 AM, Rob van der Heij wrote:


Are you sure the  disk is R/W and that it is the right size?   I
tried to do it from the quick ref guide and found that it was
missing some of the steps that you need (and are only in the real
book).


You mean the missing 22cc and 2cf1 disks, or something else?

That *was* sort of annoying, wasn't it?  Not hard if you already have  
an idea of what is being done to construct the 2d-level primer system,  
but if you were a newbie, I can see how it would leave you baffled.   
And of course if you are (shock, horror) editing your user directory  
by hand then just adding the appropriate disks could be much harder  
than it was for me.


If it hasn't been done already, could MAINT's default directory entry  
please be updated to include , 2CF1, 22CC ?  Surely the HOPE is  
that a z/VM customer will go on to install a later version someday


Adam


Re: z/VM 5.4 Installation from DVD Failure - PJBR

2009-03-17 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Adam Thornton athorn...@sinenomine.net wrote:
 On Mar 17, 2009, at 5:56 AM, Rob van der Heij wrote:

 Are you sure the  disk is R/W and that it is the right size?   I
 tried to do it from the quick ref guide and found that it was
 missing some of the steps that you need (and are only in the real
 book).

 You mean the missing 22cc and 2cf1 disks, or something else?

 That *was* sort of annoying, wasn't it?  Not hard if you already have an
 idea of what is being done to construct the 2d-level primer system, but if
 you were a newbie, I can see how it would leave you baffled.  And of course
 if you are (shock, horror) editing your user directory by hand then just
 adding the appropriate disks could be much harder than it was for me.

Yes, it was! Enough for me to actually file a RCF to tell them that
the summary had almost all the step, except missing this one. And no
indication as that it was not complete. I'm not sure that had the
effect I was hoping for.

After a few false starts, I ended up using count lines | cons
instead of eckdrest to find out how large the disk was supposed to be.

It really does not have to be in MAINT - you don't want to run the 2nd
level system in MAINT anyway, so why mess with things. It's also only
needed briefly in the process, so for me 3 T-disks would be fine. And
in theory when you ship the GA of z/VM 5.4 you don't know upfront how
large the payload for those disks will be in the next release...  And
I don't think you really need the three disks - it could have been
enough just to ship a single disk to bootstrap the process.

Rob


Re: z/VM 5.4 Installation from DVD Failure - PJBR

2009-03-17 Thread Adam Thornton

On Mar 17, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Rob van der Heij wrote:


It really does not have to be in MAINT - you don't want to run the 2nd
level system in MAINT anyway, so why mess with things. It's also only
needed briefly in the process, so for me 3 T-disks would be fine. And
in theory when you ship the GA of z/VM 5.4 you don't know upfront how
large the payload for those disks will be in the next release...  And
I don't think you really need the three disks - it could have been
enough just to ship a single disk to bootstrap the process.


I would be surprised if /22CC ever needed to be anything other  
than 5 cyls.  I made a 120-cyl 2CF1 because I assumed it was a shadow  
CF1 and that's 120 cyls on my 5.3 system.


I agree that T-disk would be fine, and, yes, it seems as if putting  
that all on the same disk would make life easier.


Adam