Re: z/VM 5.4 Install question
Thanks Jonathan Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Citic z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support Office - 443 348-2102 Cell - 443 632-4191 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Quay, Jonathan (IHG) Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 2:08 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4 Install question It didn't take very long, but my workstation is about two hops away from the mainframe osa. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) Sent: Sun 3/28/2010 2:01 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4 Install question Thanks Jonathan, That's about what I was thinking of doing. Do you remember how long the SEND down to you z/VM system took? It warns in the manual that it could take a while! Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Citic z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support Office - 443 348-2102 Cell - 443 632-4191 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Quay, Jonathan (IHG) Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 1:22 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4 Install question Terry, when I did this, I received .zip files from ShopZSeries. I unzipped them in to a directory structure on my workstation. Then I used my terminal emulator (PCOM) to upload them to a minidisk on my 1st level system's VM 5.4 installation userid (MAINT54 in my case). Instructions/requirements for that userid are on pp 61-62 of. the Guide for Automated Installation and Service. Then follow the instructions in Appendix J. Use the .srl file and the upload is automated for you. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) Sent: Sun 3/28/2010 12:19 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: z/VM 5.4 Install question https://webmail.ichotelsgroup.com/exchange/Jonathan.Quay/Drafts/RE:%20z _xF8FF_VM%205.4%20Install%20question.EML/image001@01cace6e.f90eedb0 Hi This has probably been broached before here but I could not find the specifics that I was looking for sorry if this is a repeat question. Anyway I am getting ready to install z/VM 5.4 and I ordered the product via Shop Z Series. I was able to download everything including the RSU to my desk top all in the same folder. Since I do not have the means at this time to do the install via DVD I was going to use a Terminal Emulator to Upload Files and install via a z/VM mini disk. I am using the Automated Install and Service Guide as my reference for the install. I know this is going to be slow but it looks like it will work. My question is that it is a little confusing when it keeps talking about the DVD install I am assuming that since the download to my desk top into a folder called CPDVD that by SENDING it via the Terminal Emulator to my z/VM system to a mini disk that it is the same thing as if it were on a real DVD is this a correct assumption? Please add any other information that you think I should be aware of. This is my first real install of the operating system so I want to do it right. Thanks for the help!! Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Citic z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support Office - 443 348-2102 Cell - 443 632-4191 cid:image001.jpg@01C97FB5.5EAFD6C0https://webmail.ichotelsgroup.com/exc hange/Jonathan.Quay/Drafts/RE:%20z_xF8FF_VM%205.4%20Install%20question.E ML/image002@01cace6e.f90eedb0
z/VM 5.4 Install question
Hi This has probably been broached before here but I could not find the specifics that I was looking for sorry if this is a repeat question. Anyway I am getting ready to install z/VM 5.4 and I ordered the product via Shop Z Series. I was able to download everything including the RSU to my desk top all in the same folder. Since I do not have the means at this time to do the install via DVD I was going to use a Terminal Emulator to Upload Files and install via a z/VM mini disk. I am using the Automated Install and Service Guide as my reference for the install. I know this is going to be slow but it looks like it will work. My question is that it is a little confusing when it keeps talking about the DVD install I am assuming that since the download to my desk top into a folder called CPDVD that by SENDING it via the Terminal Emulator to my z/VM system to a mini disk that it is the same thing as if it were on a real DVD is this a correct assumption? Please add any other information that you think I should be aware of. This is my first real install of the operating system so I want to do it right. Thanks for the help!! Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Citic z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support Office - 443 348-2102 Cell - 443 632-4191
Re: z/VM 5.4 Install question
If I remember well, it is fully explained how to install when you upload the files to VM. It must be different a bit: using a real DVD, it uses FTP to get access to the files that must be installed. When uploaded it cab directly read the files from a CMS minidisk. But, I don't have the installation document here at home 2010/3/28 Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov Hi This has probably been broached before here but I could not find the specifics that I was looking for sorry if this is a repeat question. Anyway I am getting ready to install z/VM 5.4 and I ordered the product via Shop Z Series. I was able to download everything including the RSU to my desk top all in the same folder. Since I do not have the means at this time to do the install via DVD I was going to use a Terminal Emulator to Upload Files and install via a z/VM mini disk. I am using the Automated Install and Service Guide as my reference for the install. I know this is going to be slow but it looks like it will work. My question is that it is a little confusing when it keeps talking about the DVD install I am assuming that since the download to my desk top into a folder called CPDVD that by SENDING it via the Terminal Emulator to my z/VM system to a mini disk that it is the same thing as if it were on a real DVD is this a correct assumption? Please add any other information that you think I should be aware of. This is my first real install of the operating system so I want to do it right. Thanks for the help!! *Thank You,* * * *Terry Martin* *Lockheed Martin - Citic* *z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support* *Office - 443 348-2102* *Cell - 443 632-4191* * * *[image: cid:image001.jpg@01C97FB5.5EAFD6C0]*** -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support
Re: z/VM 5.4 Install question
Terry, when I did this, I received .zip files from ShopZSeries. I unzipped them in to a directory structure on my workstation. Then I used my terminal emulator (PCOM) to upload them to a minidisk on my 1st level system's VM 5.4 installation userid (MAINT54 in my case). Instructions/requirements for that userid are on pp 61-62 of. the Guide for Automated Installation and Service. Then follow the instructions in Appendix J. Use the .srl file and the upload is automated for you. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) Sent: Sun 3/28/2010 12:19 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: z/VM 5.4 Install question https://webmail.ichotelsgroup.com/exchange/Jonathan.Quay/Drafts/RE:%20z_xF8FF_VM%205.4%20Install%20question.EML/image001@01cace6e.f90eedb0 Hi This has probably been broached before here but I could not find the specifics that I was looking for sorry if this is a repeat question. Anyway I am getting ready to install z/VM 5.4 and I ordered the product via Shop Z Series. I was able to download everything including the RSU to my desk top all in the same folder. Since I do not have the means at this time to do the install via DVD I was going to use a Terminal Emulator to Upload Files and install via a z/VM mini disk. I am using the Automated Install and Service Guide as my reference for the install. I know this is going to be slow but it looks like it will work. My question is that it is a little confusing when it keeps talking about the DVD install I am assuming that since the download to my desk top into a folder called CPDVD that by SENDING it via the Terminal Emulator to my z/VM system to a mini disk that it is the same thing as if it were on a real DVD is this a correct assumption? Please add any other information that you think I should be aware of. This is my first real install of the operating system so I want to do it right. Thanks for the help!! Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Citic z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support Office - 443 348-2102 Cell - 443 632-4191 cid:image001.jpg@01C97FB5.5EAFD6C0https://webmail.ichotelsgroup.com/exchange/Jonathan.Quay/Drafts/RE:%20z_xF8FF_VM%205.4%20Install%20question.EML/image002@01cace6e.f90eedb0
Re: z/VM 5.4 Install question
On Sunday 28 March 2010 18:19:36 you wrote: Hi This has probably been broached before here but I could not find the specifics that I was looking for sorry if this is a repeat question. Anyway I am getting ready to install z/VM 5.4 and I ordered the product via Shop Z Series. I was able to download everything including the RSU to my desk top all in the same folder. Since I do not have the means at this time to do the install via DVD I was going to use a Terminal Emulator to Upload Files and install via a z/VM mini disk. I am using the Automated Install and Service Guide as my reference for the install. I know this is going to be slow but it looks like it will work. My question is that it is a little confusing when it keeps talking about the DVD install I am assuming that since the download to my desk top into a folder called CPDVD that by SENDING it via the Terminal Emulator to my z/VM system to a mini disk that it is the same thing as if it were on a real DVD is this a correct assumption? Please add any other information that you think I should be aware of. This is my first real install of the operating system so I want to do it right. Thanks for the help!! Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Citic z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support Office - 443 348-2102 Cell - 443 632-4191 You must use FTP server or you must insert DVD in HMC, in Guide and Automated... book GC24_6196-00. This book is for z/VM 6.1 but you can use the process for all release. All it explains -- Bien à vous Carlos Romero Martin
Re: z/VM 5.4 Install question
Thanks Jonathan, That's about what I was thinking of doing. Do you remember how long the SEND down to you z/VM system took? It warns in the manual that it could take a while! Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Citic z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support Office - 443 348-2102 Cell - 443 632-4191 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Quay, Jonathan (IHG) Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 1:22 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4 Install question Terry, when I did this, I received .zip files from ShopZSeries. I unzipped them in to a directory structure on my workstation. Then I used my terminal emulator (PCOM) to upload them to a minidisk on my 1st level system's VM 5.4 installation userid (MAINT54 in my case). Instructions/requirements for that userid are on pp 61-62 of. the Guide for Automated Installation and Service. Then follow the instructions in Appendix J. Use the .srl file and the upload is automated for you. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) Sent: Sun 3/28/2010 12:19 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: z/VM 5.4 Install question https://webmail.ichotelsgroup.com/exchange/Jonathan.Quay/Drafts/RE:%20z _xF8FF_VM%205.4%20Install%20question.EML/image001@01cace6e.f90eedb0 Hi This has probably been broached before here but I could not find the specifics that I was looking for sorry if this is a repeat question. Anyway I am getting ready to install z/VM 5.4 and I ordered the product via Shop Z Series. I was able to download everything including the RSU to my desk top all in the same folder. Since I do not have the means at this time to do the install via DVD I was going to use a Terminal Emulator to Upload Files and install via a z/VM mini disk. I am using the Automated Install and Service Guide as my reference for the install. I know this is going to be slow but it looks like it will work. My question is that it is a little confusing when it keeps talking about the DVD install I am assuming that since the download to my desk top into a folder called CPDVD that by SENDING it via the Terminal Emulator to my z/VM system to a mini disk that it is the same thing as if it were on a real DVD is this a correct assumption? Please add any other information that you think I should be aware of. This is my first real install of the operating system so I want to do it right. Thanks for the help!! Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Citic z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support Office - 443 348-2102 Cell - 443 632-4191 cid:image001.jpg@01C97FB5.5EAFD6C0https://webmail.ichotelsgroup.com/exc hange/Jonathan.Quay/Drafts/RE:%20z_xF8FF_VM%205.4%20Install%20question.E ML/image002@01cace6e.f90eedb0
Re: z/VM 5.4 Install question
Jonathan, One other thing in the manual in appendix J one of the steps says to: 1) In the Transfer Type field, enter dvdbinary. Did you do this or did you just make sure it said BINARY? I can't the significance of this if the SEND is actually coming from my desk top instead of DVD. Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Citic z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support Office - 443 348-2102 Cell - 443 632-4191 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Quay, Jonathan (IHG) Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 1:22 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4 Install question Terry, when I did this, I received .zip files from ShopZSeries. I unzipped them in to a directory structure on my workstation. Then I used my terminal emulator (PCOM) to upload them to a minidisk on my 1st level system's VM 5.4 installation userid (MAINT54 in my case). Instructions/requirements for that userid are on pp 61-62 of. the Guide for Automated Installation and Service. Then follow the instructions in Appendix J. Use the .srl file and the upload is automated for you. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) Sent: Sun 3/28/2010 12:19 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: z/VM 5.4 Install question https://webmail.ichotelsgroup.com/exchange/Jonathan.Quay/Drafts/RE:%20z _xF8FF_VM%205.4%20Install%20question.EML/image001@01cace6e.f90eedb0 Hi This has probably been broached before here but I could not find the specifics that I was looking for sorry if this is a repeat question. Anyway I am getting ready to install z/VM 5.4 and I ordered the product via Shop Z Series. I was able to download everything including the RSU to my desk top all in the same folder. Since I do not have the means at this time to do the install via DVD I was going to use a Terminal Emulator to Upload Files and install via a z/VM mini disk. I am using the Automated Install and Service Guide as my reference for the install. I know this is going to be slow but it looks like it will work. My question is that it is a little confusing when it keeps talking about the DVD install I am assuming that since the download to my desk top into a folder called CPDVD that by SENDING it via the Terminal Emulator to my z/VM system to a mini disk that it is the same thing as if it were on a real DVD is this a correct assumption? Please add any other information that you think I should be aware of. This is my first real install of the operating system so I want to do it right. Thanks for the help!! Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Citic z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support Office - 443 348-2102 Cell - 443 632-4191 cid:image001.jpg@01C97FB5.5EAFD6C0https://webmail.ichotelsgroup.com/exc hange/Jonathan.Quay/Drafts/RE:%20z_xF8FF_VM%205.4%20Install%20question.E ML/image002@01cace6e.f90eedb0
Re: z/VM 5.4 Install question
What that step is doing is making sure the transfer is an F 1028 binary transfer. Make sure you do that in whatever emulator you're using. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) Sent: Sun 3/28/2010 2:06 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4 Install question Jonathan, One other thing in the manual in appendix J one of the steps says to: 1) In the Transfer Type field, enter dvdbinary. Did you do this or did you just make sure it said BINARY? I can't the significance of this if the SEND is actually coming from my desk top instead of DVD. Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Citic z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support Office - 443 348-2102 Cell - 443 632-4191 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Quay, Jonathan (IHG) Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 1:22 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4 Install question Terry, when I did this, I received .zip files from ShopZSeries. I unzipped them in to a directory structure on my workstation. Then I used my terminal emulator (PCOM) to upload them to a minidisk on my 1st level system's VM 5.4 installation userid (MAINT54 in my case). Instructions/requirements for that userid are on pp 61-62 of. the Guide for Automated Installation and Service. Then follow the instructions in Appendix J. Use the .srl file and the upload is automated for you. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) Sent: Sun 3/28/2010 12:19 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: z/VM 5.4 Install question P Hi This has probably been broached before here but I could not find the specifics that I was looking for sorry if this is a repeat question. Anyway I am getting ready to install z/VM 5.4 and I ordered the product via Shop Z Series. I was able to download everything including the RSU to my desk top all in the same folder. Since I do not have the means at this time to do the install via DVD I was going to use a Terminal Emulator to Upload Files and install via a z/VM mini disk. I am using the Automated Install and Service Guide as my reference for the install. I know this is going to be slow but it looks like it will work. My question is that it is a little confusing when it keeps talking about the DVD install I am assuming that since the download to my desk top into a folder called CPDVD that by SENDING it via the Terminal Emulator to my z/VM system to a mini disk that it is the same thing as if it were on a real DVD is this a correct assumption? Please add any other information that you think I should be aware of. This is my first real install of the operating system so I want to do it right. Thanks for the help!! Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Citic z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support Office - 443 348-2102 Cell - 443 632-4191 cid:image001.jpg@01C97FB5.5EAFD6C0P
Re: z/VM 5.4 Install question
Jonathan, Thanks! Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Citic z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support Office - 443 348-2102 Cell - 443 632-4191 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Quay, Jonathan (IHG) Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 2:11 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4 Install question What that step is doing is making sure the transfer is an F 1028 binary transfer. Make sure you do that in whatever emulator you're using. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) Sent: Sun 3/28/2010 2:06 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4 Install question Jonathan, One other thing in the manual in appendix J one of the steps says to: 1) In the Transfer Type field, enter dvdbinary. Did you do this or did you just make sure it said BINARY? I can't the significance of this if the SEND is actually coming from my desk top instead of DVD. Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Citic z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support Office - 443 348-2102 Cell - 443 632-4191 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Quay, Jonathan (IHG) Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 1:22 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4 Install question Terry, when I did this, I received .zip files from ShopZSeries. I unzipped them in to a directory structure on my workstation. Then I used my terminal emulator (PCOM) to upload them to a minidisk on my 1st level system's VM 5.4 installation userid (MAINT54 in my case). Instructions/requirements for that userid are on pp 61-62 of. the Guide for Automated Installation and Service. Then follow the instructions in Appendix J. Use the .srl file and the upload is automated for you. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) Sent: Sun 3/28/2010 12:19 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: z/VM 5.4 Install question P Hi This has probably been broached before here but I could not find the specifics that I was looking for sorry if this is a repeat question. Anyway I am getting ready to install z/VM 5.4 and I ordered the product via Shop Z Series. I was able to download everything including the RSU to my desk top all in the same folder. Since I do not have the means at this time to do the install via DVD I was going to use a Terminal Emulator to Upload Files and install via a z/VM mini disk. I am using the Automated Install and Service Guide as my reference for the install. I know this is going to be slow but it looks like it will work. My question is that it is a little confusing when it keeps talking about the DVD install I am assuming that since the download to my desk top into a folder called CPDVD that by SENDING it via the Terminal Emulator to my z/VM system to a mini disk that it is the same thing as if it were on a real DVD is this a correct assumption? Please add any other information that you think I should be aware of. This is my first real install of the operating system so I want to do it right. Thanks for the help!! Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Citic z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support Office - 443 348-2102 Cell - 443 632-4191 cid:image001.jpg@01C97FB5.5EAFD6C0P
z/VM 5.4 install question
When I installed z/VM 5.2 and 5.3, they both required one (1) 3390-9 (xxxRES) and two (2) 3390-3 (xxxPAG and xxxSPL). Can I use the same configuration with z/VM 5.4 (one 3390-9 540RES and two 3390-3 (540PAG and 540SPL) ? The z/VM Summary for Automated Installation and Service says that five 3390-3 are required or three 3390-9 are required. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. **
Re: z/VM 5.4 install question
Yes, that will work fine. It is best that all paging volumes are the same type (i.e. mod 3) and actually using mod 3s for paging gives VM more devices to use and lets it do more paging in parallel. Just make sure your page space usage is 50% or less - if it grows above that, add more paging volumes. Spool volumes aren't so critical, and using a mod 3 just gives you less space per volume, but unless you have a lot of memory and need a lot of space to hold a dump, it is probably enough On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Daniel Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I installed z/VM 5.2 and 5.3, they both required one (1) 3390-9 (xxxRES) and two (2) 3390-3 (xxxPAG and xxxSPL). Can I use the same configuration with z/VM 5.4 (one 3390-9 540RES and two 3390-3 (540PAG and 540SPL) ? The z/VM Summary for Automated Installation and Service says that five 3390-3 are required or three 3390-9 are required. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ** -- Bruce Hayden Linux on System z Advanced Technical Support IBM, Endicott, NY
