Re: z/VM and Linux in the news....
Mike, My take on the council meetings is a little different than yours. While the target audience may be senior executive management, the reality is that they welcome the technical folks just as enthusiastically. I have attended the council meeting in my area since its inception. I do download the presentations and circulate them around the shop to interested parties. My local Linux on System z folks have encouraged me to do so. My council meeting (Atlanta) is tomorrow and, unfortunately, Mr. Teles of Hoplon is not on our agenda. Not to worry, I have and will continue to download new presentations from any of the nine other councils as I notice them. :-) Bob Richards VP, Enterprise Technologist - - Enterprise Technology Infrastructure- - Mainframe Services & Capacity Performance Mgmt - - Office: 404-575-2798Mobile: 610-246-2943 - - email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:40 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM and Linux in the news OK, I'll try to take good notes and post them here afterward if IBM has no problems with that at the meeting. No promises on whether that actually gets done (lots of other things happening in my life right now) nor how good the notes might be. However, the handouts are generally posted at: https://extranet.lotus.com/zlinuxcouncil But your IBM'er has to sign you up for that web site, and invite you to the Council meetings. The target audience for the "Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council" is senior management. If I understood correctly they were targeting CEOs and CIOs, but have been letting technical managers such as myself show up. The sessions don't get down to the bits and bytes levels (for that, go to SHARE), but stay at a higher level; again targeted to their desired audience. I'll ask if I can post the session handouts somewhere that everyone can access. IBM might be wise to do that anyway, so that sysprogs can print them off to hand to their own management - particularly for customer sites where the invitees cannot or will not attend. Often, "insurrections" start from the bottom anyway. :-) Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust and Seeing beyond money are federally registered service marks of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL]
Re: z/VM and Linux in the news....
OK, I'll try to take good notes and post them here afterward if IBM has no problems with that at the meeting. No promises on whether that actually gets done (lots of other things happening in my life right now) nor how good the notes might be. However, the handouts are generally posted at: https://extranet.lotus.com/zlinuxcouncil But your IBM'er has to sign you up for that web site, and invite you to the Council meetings. The target audience for the "Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council" is senior management. If I understood correctly they were targeting CEOs and CIOs, but have been letting technical managers such as myself show up. The sessions don't get down to the bits and bytes levels (for that, go to SHARE), but stay at a higher level; again targeted to their desired audience. I'll ask if I can post the session handouts somewhere that everyone can access. IBM might be wise to do that anyway, so that sysprogs can print them off to hand to their own management - particularly for customer sites where the invitees cannot or will not attend. Often, "insurrections" start from the bottom anyway. :-) Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 09/13/2007 07:41 AM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: z/VM and Linux in the news It would be VERY interesting to read the notes from the Chicago session -- and forward them on to (skeptical) management! Dave Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 09/12/2007 02:44 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: z/VM and Linux in the news Thanks for the invite, Mike, but next week I will be in warm and sunny San Antonio (my favorite city) for the zExpo. Maybe you can attend the meeting in Chicago and post some notesseems Mr. Teles is busy doing more with the mainframe than simply playing games. Mike Walter wrote: > Dave, > >> Come to New York at the end of the Month and you can ask the CEO of > Hoplon those questions your self. ;>) > > Why wait that long? If the suspense is too much, wrangle yourself an > invitation to the Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council meeting in > Chicago next week, Thursday September 25 (08:00-12:30). Chicago's a lot > closer to you than is New York. Anyone interested should contact their > IBM rep. > > From the invitation: > "We have an exciting Agenda for the half-day session. Our first speaker > is IBM VP Leslie Gordon who will discuss IBM's own consolidation project > announced in August where IBM will be taking the workload of 3,900 > distributed servers and consolidating those workloads onto Linux on System > z. Next up, Monte Bauman will be presenting System z Cost and Value > Modeling which was used for IBM's Project Big Green and can be used for > your consolidation projects. Last, but certainly not least, is Tarquinio > Teles, CEO of Brazil-based Hoplon. Mr. Teles will be presenting some of > the Linux on System z projects that Hoplon is doing in some areas a > diverse as media conference centers, high-performance financial analysis, > and most notable, the "GameFrame" where Hoplon has integrated the IBM Cell > with Linux for System z to produce an Internet gaming environment." > > Mike Walter > Hewitt Associates > Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily > represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. > > > > "Bill Munson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" > 09/12/2007 12:49 PM > Please respond to > "The IBM z/VM Operating System" > > > > To > IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > cc > > Subject > Re: z/VM and Linux in the news > > > > > > > Dave, > > Come to New York at the end of the Month and you can ask the CEO of > Hoplon those questions your self. ;>) > > Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council > > > IBM Corporation > 590 Madison Avenue, 12th Floor Room 1219 > New York City > Friday, September 28, 9 AM 12:30 PM > > Youre invited to join us for the next session of the Linux on System z > Executive Advisory Council. We launched this council in 2002 in order > to garner your insights and foster communications among the System z > Linux community. We are excited to welcome Tarquinio Teles, CEO of > Hoplon of Brazil which has embarked on a pr
Re: z/VM and Linux in the news....
It would be VERY interesting to read the notes from the Chicago session -- and forward them on to (skeptical) management! Dave Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 09/12/2007 02:44 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: z/VM and Linux in the news Thanks for the invite, Mike, but next week I will be in warm and sunny San Antonio (my favorite city) for the zExpo. Maybe you can attend the meeting in Chicago and post some notesseems Mr. Teles is busy doing more with the mainframe than simply playing games. Mike Walter wrote: > Dave, > >> Come to New York at the end of the Month and you can ask the CEO of > Hoplon those questions your self. ;>) > > Why wait that long? If the suspense is too much, wrangle yourself an > invitation to the Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council meeting in > Chicago next week, Thursday September 25 (08:00-12:30). Chicago's a lot > closer to you than is New York. Anyone interested should contact their > IBM rep. > > From the invitation: > "We have an exciting Agenda for the half-day session. Our first speaker > is IBM VP Leslie Gordon who will discuss IBM's own consolidation project > announced in August where IBM will be taking the workload of 3,900 > distributed servers and consolidating those workloads onto Linux on System > z. Next up, Monte Bauman will be presenting System z Cost and Value > Modeling which was used for IBM's Project Big Green and can be used for > your consolidation projects. Last, but certainly not least, is Tarquinio > Teles, CEO of Brazil-based Hoplon. Mr. Teles will be presenting some of > the Linux on System z projects that Hoplon is doing in some areas a > diverse as media conference centers, high-performance financial analysis, > and most notable, the "GameFrame" where Hoplon has integrated the IBM Cell > with Linux for System z to produce an Internet gaming environment." > > Mike Walter > Hewitt Associates > Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily > represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. > > > > "Bill Munson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" > 09/12/2007 12:49 PM > Please respond to > "The IBM z/VM Operating System" > > > > To > IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > cc > > Subject > Re: z/VM and Linux in the news > > > > > > > Dave, > > Come to New York at the end of the Month and you can ask the CEO of > Hoplon those questions your self. ;>) > > Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council > > > IBM Corporation > 590 Madison Avenue, 12th Floor Room 1219 > New York City > Friday, September 28, 9 AM 12:30 PM > > Youre invited to join us for the next session of the Linux on System z > Executive Advisory Council. We launched this council in 2002 in order > to garner your insights and foster communications among the System z > Linux community. We are excited to welcome Tarquinio Teles, CEO of > Hoplon of Brazil which has embarked on a project to integrate the Cell > Broadband Engine with the IBM System z Mainframe . We will also discuss > z/VM as it compares to other virtualization technologies, System z > architecture as it compares to RISC architecture, and the major > announcement made by IBM to consolidate 3900 of its > own distributed servers to Linux on System z under z/VM from a business, > technical, and financial > perspective. > > Agenda > > 8:30 am Arrival and Continental Breakfast > 9:00 am Opening Remarks & IBM Major Project Green Server Consolidation > Len Santalucia, IBM Americas System z Linux Impact Team > 9:15 am Comparison of Virtualization Technologies > Reed Mullen, Software Prod Mgr System z Virtualization Technology > 10:15 amArchitectural Comparison of System z vs RISC > Rory Canellis, Competive Intelligence Analyst, Systems z Marketing > 11:15 amBitVerse Financial Analysis Algorithym, Virtual Conferencing > Center, GameFrame on IBM System z Linux, z/VM & Cell BE Technologies > Tarquinio Teles, CEO of Hoplon > 12:00 pm Open Discussion with all speakers & Plan next session > 12:30 pm Close and Departure > > RSVP Andy Greco [EMAIL PROTECTED], (603)472-4169 or Len Santalucia: > [EMAIL PROTECTED], (212) 493-5957. > > > Bill Munson > VM System Programmer > Office of Information Technology > State of New Jersey > (609) 984-4065 > > President MVMUA > http://www.marist.edu/~mvmua > > >
Re: z/VM and Linux in the news....
Thanks for the invite, Mike, but next week I will be in warm and sunny San Antonio (my favorite city) for the zExpo. Maybe you can attend the meeting in Chicago and post some notesseems Mr. Teles is busy doing more with the mainframe than simply playing games. Mike Walter wrote: Dave, Come to New York at the end of the Month and you can ask the CEO of Hoplon those questions your self. ;>) Why wait that long? If the suspense is too much, wrangle yourself an invitation to the Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council meeting in Chicago next week, Thursday September 25 (08:00-12:30). Chicago's a lot closer to you than is New York. Anyone interested should contact their IBM rep. From the invitation: "We have an exciting Agenda for the half-day session. Our first speaker is IBM VP Leslie Gordon who will discuss IBM's own consolidation project announced in August where IBM will be taking the workload of 3,900 distributed servers and consolidating those workloads onto Linux on System z. Next up, Monte Bauman will be presenting System z Cost and Value Modeling which was used for IBM's Project Big Green and can be used for your consolidation projects. Last, but certainly not least, is Tarquinio Teles, CEO of Brazil-based Hoplon. Mr. Teles will be presenting some of the Linux on System z projects that Hoplon is doing in some areas a diverse as media conference centers, high-performance financial analysis, and most notable, the "GameFrame" where Hoplon has integrated the IBM Cell with Linux for System z to produce an Internet gaming environment." Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. "Bill Munson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 09/12/2007 12:49 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: z/VM and Linux in the news Dave, Come to New York at the end of the Month and you can ask the CEO of Hoplon those questions your self. ;>) Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council IBM Corporation 590 Madison Avenue, 12th Floor Room 1219 New York City Friday, September 28, 9 AM 12:30 PM Youre invited to join us for the next session of the Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council. We launched this council in 2002 in order to garner your insights and foster communications among the System z Linux community. We are excited to welcome Tarquinio Teles, CEO of Hoplon of Brazil which has embarked on a project to integrate the Cell Broadband Engine with the IBM System z Mainframe . We will also discuss z/VM as it compares to other virtualization technologies, System z architecture as it compares to RISC architecture, and the major announcement made by IBM to consolidate 3900 of its own distributed servers to Linux on System z under z/VM from a business, technical, and financial perspective. Agenda 8:30 am Arrival and Continental Breakfast 9:00 am Opening Remarks & IBM Major Project Green Server Consolidation Len Santalucia, IBM Americas System z Linux Impact Team 9:15 am Comparison of Virtualization Technologies Reed Mullen, Software Prod Mgr System z Virtualization Technology 10:15 amArchitectural Comparison of System z vs RISC Rory Canellis, Competive Intelligence Analyst, Systems z Marketing 11:15 amBitVerse Financial Analysis Algorithym, Virtual Conferencing Center, GameFrame on IBM System z Linux, z/VM & Cell BE Technologies Tarquinio Teles, CEO of Hoplon 12:00 pm Open Discussion with all speakers & Plan next session 12:30 pm Close and Departure RSVP Andy Greco [EMAIL PROTECTED], (603)472-4169 or Len Santalucia: [EMAIL PROTECTED], (212) 493-5957. Bill Munson VM System Programmer Office of Information Technology State of New Jersey (609) 984-4065 President MVMUA http://www.marist.edu/~mvmua Dave Jones wrote: (Sorry for the cross-posting, but I thought both lists would like to read about this) Here's an interesting article about how Brazilian companies are using IBM mainframes in new and, shall we say, unique ways "Joe Clabby's Brazilian mainframe adventure travel log", ( http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid80_gci1271026,00.html?track=NL-576&ad=603746&asrc=EM_NLT_2178510 ) (and watch out for line wrap on that long URL above) It has some interesting additional information about how Hoplon Infotainment, the Brazilian online gaming outfit, is using an IBM mainframe and a cluster of Cel based blade servers to provide for a very rich and full featured gaming environment. And, as was suspected, z/VM is being used on the mainframe to provide virtual gaming environments on demand. One thing that I found a bit confusing was the statement ...
Re: z/VM and Linux in the news....
Yes, I have heard something similar, John. The story I heard, and this was about 3 or 4 years ago, is that IBM built a system that consisted of a common backplane and disk drives, that would accept different types of "servers on a card". If you wanted a zSeries box, you added zSeries on a card to this system, if you wanted an iSeries or xSeries box, you simply added those cards. The way cool part was that the different types of cards could be mixed and matched in one system, with the backplane doing the work so that the different cards could share the disk storage, and communication amongst themselves at very high speeds (sounds like Hipersockets between LPARs doesn't it?). You could have one system, presented in a very tightly integrated manner, that could support both zSeries and xSeries, say, workloads at the same time. I believe that this type of approach is somewhat similar to the one now being promoted by PSI, as well. McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:56 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM and Linux in the news Bill, send me airfare and I'll be there! :-) This does look like a really good meeting.I am most interested in hearing details of exactly how they are integrating the Cell engine with the zSeries mainframe (and z/VM, too). I suspect that, at the moment, the integration takes the form of Linux guests under z/VM sharing DASD, via NFS or something similar, with the Cell-based blade servers (also running Linux, btw). How the computational tasks are shared amongst the processors I haven't a clue DJ MPI? Or one of the other "clustering" methodologies, I would guess. Likely communicating via Gb Ethernet. The z/Linux instances might even be communicating via NCSS shared memory. Or using some other z/VM interface for inter-guest communications (might just be TCPIP on hipersockets). I still think that one technology that would be fantastic is one that my boss insists IBM has. He says that IBM has a System z system on a card that can be put in a blade server. This same server can also accommodate pSeries and xSeries cards so that you can communicate between them on the server's memory bus (like a hipersocket does between LPARs). I do vaguely remember something like this for iSeries. Some sort of fast interface to an xServer. The xServer, running Windows, could access the iSeries' disk drives and talk to i5/OS on this "backplane" or something. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- DJ V/Soft
Re: z/VM and Linux in the news....
Dave, > Come to New York at the end of the Month and you can ask the CEO of Hoplon those questions your self. ;>) Why wait that long? If the suspense is too much, wrangle yourself an invitation to the Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council meeting in Chicago next week, Thursday September 25 (08:00-12:30). Chicago's a lot closer to you than is New York. Anyone interested should contact their IBM rep. From the invitation: "We have an exciting Agenda for the half-day session. Our first speaker is IBM VP Leslie Gordon who will discuss IBM's own consolidation project announced in August where IBM will be taking the workload of 3,900 distributed servers and consolidating those workloads onto Linux on System z. Next up, Monte Bauman will be presenting System z Cost and Value Modeling which was used for IBM's Project Big Green and can be used for your consolidation projects. Last, but certainly not least, is Tarquinio Teles, CEO of Brazil-based Hoplon. Mr. Teles will be presenting some of the Linux on System z projects that Hoplon is doing in some areas a diverse as media conference centers, high-performance financial analysis, and most notable, the "GameFrame" where Hoplon has integrated the IBM Cell with Linux for System z to produce an Internet gaming environment." Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. "Bill Munson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 09/12/2007 12:49 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: z/VM and Linux in the news Dave, Come to New York at the end of the Month and you can ask the CEO of Hoplon those questions your self. ;>) Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council IBM Corporation 590 Madison Avenue, 12th Floor Room 1219 New York City Friday, September 28, 9 AM 12:30 PM Youre invited to join us for the next session of the Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council. We launched this council in 2002 in order to garner your insights and foster communications among the System z Linux community. We are excited to welcome Tarquinio Teles, CEO of Hoplon of Brazil which has embarked on a project to integrate the Cell Broadband Engine with the IBM System z Mainframe . We will also discuss z/VM as it compares to other virtualization technologies, System z architecture as it compares to RISC architecture, and the major announcement made by IBM to consolidate 3900 of its own distributed servers to Linux on System z under z/VM from a business, technical, and financial perspective. Agenda 8:30 am Arrival and Continental Breakfast 9:00 am Opening Remarks & IBM Major Project Green Server Consolidation Len Santalucia, IBM Americas System z Linux Impact Team 9:15 am Comparison of Virtualization Technologies Reed Mullen, Software Prod Mgr System z Virtualization Technology 10:15 amArchitectural Comparison of System z vs RISC Rory Canellis, Competive Intelligence Analyst, Systems z Marketing 11:15 amBitVerse Financial Analysis Algorithym, Virtual Conferencing Center, GameFrame on IBM System z Linux, z/VM & Cell BE Technologies Tarquinio Teles, CEO of Hoplon 12:00 pm Open Discussion with all speakers & Plan next session 12:30 pm Close and Departure RSVP Andy Greco [EMAIL PROTECTED], (603)472-4169 or Len Santalucia: [EMAIL PROTECTED], (212) 493-5957. Bill Munson VM System Programmer Office of Information Technology State of New Jersey (609) 984-4065 President MVMUA http://www.marist.edu/~mvmua Dave Jones wrote: > (Sorry for the cross-posting, but I thought both lists would like to > read about this) > > Here's an interesting article about how Brazilian companies are using > IBM mainframes in new and, shall we say, unique ways > "Joe Clabby's Brazilian mainframe adventure travel log", > ( http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid80_gci1271026,00.html?track=NL-576&ad=603746&asrc=EM_NLT_2178510 ) > > (and watch out for line wrap on that long URL above) > > It has some interesting additional information about how Hoplon > Infotainment, the Brazilian online gaming outfit, is using an IBM > mainframe and a cluster of Cel based blade servers to provide for a very > rich and full featured gaming environment. And, as was suspected, z/VM > is being used on the mainframe to provide virtual gaming environments on > demand. One thing that I found a bit confusing was the statement > "The primary advantage that IBM mainframe architecture delivers to > Hoplon is cross-platform common memory management. By pooling memory > across multiple mainframes, the company can better support
Re: z/VM and Linux in the news....
> MPI? Or one of the other "clustering" methodologies, I would guess. Hoplon has said that some of it is Globus based, other parts are MPICH. > I still think that one technology that would be fantastic is one that my > boss insists IBM has. He says that IBM has a System z system on a card > that can be put in a blade server. This same server can also accommodate > pSeries and xSeries cards so that you can communicate between them on > the server's memory bus (like a hipersocket does between LPARs). Sounds like he's thinking about the P390. It's no longer made, though, and only supported 9672 G5-class instruction sets (eg, no zArch mode). Wouldn't be that hard to do, though, given the smaller z9BC MCM. You'd probably have to do a double or triple-wide blade to accommodate the cooling requirements, though; the MCMs run a LOT hotter than your average Intel chip.
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IBM Security SWARM! SWARM! SWARM! Judson West Systems Programming Team TeradataR, a division of NCR Corporation -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:07 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM and Linux in the news MPI? Or one of the other "clustering" methodologies, I would guess. Likely communicating via Gb Ethernet. The z/Linux instances might even be communicating via NCSS shared memory. Or using some other z/VM interface for inter-guest communications (might just be TCPIP on hipersockets). I still think that one technology that would be fantastic is one that my boss insists IBM has. He says that IBM has a System z system on a card that can be put in a blade server. This same server can also accommodate pSeries and xSeries cards so that you can communicate between them on the server's memory bus (like a hipersocket does between LPARs). I do vaguely remember something like this for iSeries. Some sort of fast interface to an xServer. The xServer, running Windows, could access the iSeries' disk drives and talk to i5/OS on this "backplane" or something. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it.
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> -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Jones > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:56 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: z/VM and Linux in the news > > > Bill, send me airfare and I'll be there! :-) > > This does look like a really good meeting.I am most interested in > hearing details of exactly how they are integrating the Cell > engine with > the zSeries mainframe (and z/VM, too). I suspect that, at the moment, > the integration takes the form of Linux guests under z/VM > sharing DASD, > via NFS or something similar, with the Cell-based blade servers (also > running Linux, btw). How the computational tasks are shared > amongst the > processors I haven't a clue > > > DJ MPI? Or one of the other "clustering" methodologies, I would guess. Likely communicating via Gb Ethernet. The z/Linux instances might even be communicating via NCSS shared memory. Or using some other z/VM interface for inter-guest communications (might just be TCPIP on hipersockets). I still think that one technology that would be fantastic is one that my boss insists IBM has. He says that IBM has a System z system on a card that can be put in a blade server. This same server can also accommodate pSeries and xSeries cards so that you can communicate between them on the server's memory bus (like a hipersocket does between LPARs). I do vaguely remember something like this for iSeries. Some sort of fast interface to an xServer. The xServer, running Windows, could access the iSeries' disk drives and talk to i5/OS on this "backplane" or something. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it.
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Bill, send me airfare and I'll be there! :-) This does look like a really good meeting.I am most interested in hearing details of exactly how they are integrating the Cell engine with the zSeries mainframe (and z/VM, too). I suspect that, at the moment, the integration takes the form of Linux guests under z/VM sharing DASD, via NFS or something similar, with the Cell-based blade servers (also running Linux, btw). How the computational tasks are shared amongst the processors I haven't a clue DJ Bill Munson wrote: Dave, Come to New York at the end of the Month and you can ask the CEO of Hoplon those questions your self. ;>) Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council IBM Corporation 590 Madison Avenue, 12th Floor Room 1219 New York City Friday, September 28, 9 AM 12:30 PM Youre invited to join us for the next session of the Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council. We launched this council in 2002 in order to garner your insights and foster communications among the System z Linux community. We are excited to welcome Tarquinio Teles, CEO of Hoplon of Brazil which has embarked on a project to integrate the Cell Broadband Engine with the IBM System z Mainframe . We will also discuss z/VM as it compares to other virtualization technologies, System z architecture as it compares to RISC architecture, and the major announcement made by IBM to consolidate 3900 of its own distributed servers to Linux on System z under z/VM from a business, technical, and financial perspective. Agenda 8:30 am Arrival and Continental Breakfast 9:00 am Opening Remarks & IBM Major Project Green Server Consolidation Len Santalucia, IBM Americas System z Linux Impact Team 9:15 am Comparison of Virtualization Technologies Reed Mullen, Software Prod Mgr System z Virtualization Technology 10:15 amArchitectural Comparison of System z vs RISC Rory Canellis, Competive Intelligence Analyst, Systems z Marketing 11:15 amBitVerse Financial Analysis Algorithym, Virtual Conferencing Center, GameFrame on IBM System z Linux, z/VM & Cell BE Technologies Tarquinio Teles, CEO of Hoplon 12:00 pm Open Discussion with all speakers & Plan next session 12:30 pm Close and Departure RSVP Andy Greco [EMAIL PROTECTED], (603)472-4169 or Len Santalucia: [EMAIL PROTECTED], (212) 493-5957. Bill Munson VM System Programmer Office of Information Technology State of New Jersey (609) 984-4065 President MVMUA http://www.marist.edu/~mvmua Dave Jones wrote: (Sorry for the cross-posting, but I thought both lists would like to read about this) Here's an interesting article about how Brazilian companies are using IBM mainframes in new and, shall we say, unique ways "Joe Clabby's Brazilian mainframe adventure travel log", (http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid80_gci1271026,00.html?track=NL-576&ad=603746&asrc=EM_NLT_2178510) (and watch out for line wrap on that long URL above) It has some interesting additional information about how Hoplon Infotainment, the Brazilian online gaming outfit, is using an IBM mainframe and a cluster of Cel based blade servers to provide for a very rich and full featured gaming environment. And, as was suspected, z/VM is being used on the mainframe to provide virtual gaming environments on demand. One thing that I found a bit confusing was the statement "The primary advantage that IBM mainframe architecture delivers to Hoplon is cross-platform common memory management. By pooling memory across multiple mainframes, the company can better support the large and transient user populations that move in and out of various worlds and through various communities" I wonder how they got z/VM to manage memory across multiple mainframes...I must have missed that SHARE presentation last month:-) There is one bit of not-so-good news in the articlethe writer points out how few people it takes to get and keep a z/VM system up and running...in one case 2, and another only 5. Not a real growth field it appears. Have a good one. -- DJ V/Soft
Re: z/VM and Linux in the news....
Dave, Come to New York at the end of the Month and you can ask the CEO of Hoplon those questions your self. ;>) Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council IBM Corporation 590 Madison Avenue, 12th Floor Room 1219 New York City Friday, September 28, 9 AM 12:30 PM Youre invited to join us for the next session of the Linux on System z Executive Advisory Council. We launched this council in 2002 in order to garner your insights and foster communications among the System z Linux community. We are excited to welcome Tarquinio Teles, CEO of Hoplon of Brazil which has embarked on a project to integrate the Cell Broadband Engine with the IBM System z Mainframe . We will also discuss z/VM as it compares to other virtualization technologies, System z architecture as it compares to RISC architecture, and the major announcement made by IBM to consolidate 3900 of its own distributed servers to Linux on System z under z/VM from a business, technical, and financial perspective. Agenda 8:30 am Arrival and Continental Breakfast 9:00 am Opening Remarks & IBM Major Project Green Server Consolidation Len Santalucia, IBM Americas System z Linux Impact Team 9:15 am Comparison of Virtualization Technologies Reed Mullen, Software Prod Mgr System z Virtualization Technology 10:15 amArchitectural Comparison of System z vs RISC Rory Canellis, Competive Intelligence Analyst, Systems z Marketing 11:15 amBitVerse Financial Analysis Algorithym, Virtual Conferencing Center, GameFrame on IBM System z Linux, z/VM & Cell BE Technologies Tarquinio Teles, CEO of Hoplon 12:00 pm Open Discussion with all speakers & Plan next session 12:30 pm Close and Departure RSVP Andy Greco [EMAIL PROTECTED], (603)472-4169 or Len Santalucia: [EMAIL PROTECTED], (212) 493-5957. Bill Munson VM System Programmer Office of Information Technology State of New Jersey (609) 984-4065 President MVMUA http://www.marist.edu/~mvmua Dave Jones wrote: (Sorry for the cross-posting, but I thought both lists would like to read about this) Here's an interesting article about how Brazilian companies are using IBM mainframes in new and, shall we say, unique ways "Joe Clabby's Brazilian mainframe adventure travel log", (http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid80_gci1271026,00.html?track=NL-576&ad=603746&asrc=EM_NLT_2178510) (and watch out for line wrap on that long URL above) It has some interesting additional information about how Hoplon Infotainment, the Brazilian online gaming outfit, is using an IBM mainframe and a cluster of Cel based blade servers to provide for a very rich and full featured gaming environment. And, as was suspected, z/VM is being used on the mainframe to provide virtual gaming environments on demand. One thing that I found a bit confusing was the statement "The primary advantage that IBM mainframe architecture delivers to Hoplon is cross-platform common memory management. By pooling memory across multiple mainframes, the company can better support the large and transient user populations that move in and out of various worlds and through various communities" I wonder how they got z/VM to manage memory across multiple mainframes...I must have missed that SHARE presentation last month:-) There is one bit of not-so-good news in the articlethe writer points out how few people it takes to get and keep a z/VM system up and running...in one case 2, and another only 5. Not a real growth field it appears. Have a good one.
z/VM and Linux in the news....
(Sorry for the cross-posting, but I thought both lists would like to read about this) Here's an interesting article about how Brazilian companies are using IBM mainframes in new and, shall we say, unique ways "Joe Clabby's Brazilian mainframe adventure travel log", (http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid80_gci1271026,00.html?track=NL-576&ad=603746&asrc=EM_NLT_2178510) (and watch out for line wrap on that long URL above) It has some interesting additional information about how Hoplon Infotainment, the Brazilian online gaming outfit, is using an IBM mainframe and a cluster of Cel based blade servers to provide for a very rich and full featured gaming environment. And, as was suspected, z/VM is being used on the mainframe to provide virtual gaming environments on demand. One thing that I found a bit confusing was the statement "The primary advantage that IBM mainframe architecture delivers to Hoplon is cross-platform common memory management. By pooling memory across multiple mainframes, the company can better support the large and transient user populations that move in and out of various worlds and through various communities" I wonder how they got z/VM to manage memory across multiple mainframes...I must have missed that SHARE presentation last month:-) There is one bit of not-so-good news in the articlethe writer points out how few people it takes to get and keep a z/VM system up and running...in one case 2, and another only 5. Not a real growth field it appears. Have a good one. -- DJ V/Soft
