RE: [IceHorses] Saddle bags for girls
My horses will be embarrassed to ride with yours. They'll feel like hobos! Nah, they'll just call my horses sissies. :) And don't worry, Cary won't be caught dead in anything bright or flowery! Karen Thomas, NC -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.0/689 - Release Date: 2/15/2007 5:40 PM
Re: [IceHorses] Pink!
On 2/15/07, susan cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know, do you think it would be t much? PINK! Love it! V
[IceHorses] Re: Premium Bareback Pad
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This looks VERY comfy! http://cgi.ebay.com/Treeless-Saddle-Premium-Bareback-Pad-Ultimate- Comfort_W0QQitemZ230088765631QQihZ013QQcategoryZ16239QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewIt em or: http://tinyurl.com/2z9p99 That is that Horsedream pad I was asking about a while back, I still think I will try to get one in the spring, it does look comfortable. Kim
Re: [IceHorses] Re: scooter
On 2/15/07, Lorraine Voog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Scooter make me look fat? LOL No way! V
Re: [IceHorses] Re: scooter
Does Scooter make me look fat? LOL That's too funny - I can't wait for the right moment to ask my husband that. :-))) Laree
Re: [IceHorses] Re: scooter
Does Scooter make me look fat? LOL No way! V thanks. LOL
Re: [IceHorses] Black Equissential full seat tights for sale
On 2/15/07, Stephanie Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kate, if you're interested I can put you in touch with a rep in your area to try on some breeches. And, one of the huge benefits of Equissential Breeches is the recycle program, you can have the breech remade for reduced rate if the seat is still in good shape. They're a great company and the products are top quality... It's somewhat of an adiction to the deerskin, I hate riding on anything else now! Steph -- dont forget the FRINGE. When I get my equissential tights someday mine are gonna have FRINGE. Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] When Landi was a spider
haha he looks like he could do the crane martial arts move :) janice-- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Re: scooter
On 2/15/07, Lorraine Voog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to Karen I can share my good horse day with you all. 65 degrees and a little breezy. My husband actually went with me. Lorraine what a picture! What a day for you Lorraine! I am in florida in my bunny slippers and frosty snowman sleep pants at the moment and it is 27 degrees outside. All my horses but the icelandics have on their hugh hefner robes. I am loading up Gallant Boy and Tivar as soon as it warms up a bit and taking them to the farm GB came from so he can eat grass and hopefully put on weight, and I am gonna ride tivar on the country roads. I wonder tho if its gonna warm up?? we may just have to do hula hoop olympics in the yard. Film at eleven! Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Spider Man Landi
On 2/16/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He was sort of little then, but he was active! What a darling! V
Re: [IceHorses] Re: scooter
Does Scooter make me look fat? LOL That's too funny - I can't wait for the right moment to ask my husband that. :-))) I know my husband, Kevin gets sick of it. LOL Lorraine
Re: [IceHorses] Black Equissential full seat tights for sale
They're a great company and the products are top quality... It's somewhat of an adiction to the deerskin, I hate riding on anything else now! How much are these breechs and what size. I must have deleted that. Lorraine Happy Southwestern Trails Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Re: [IceHorses] Pink!
At the ala horse fair I noted even Orthoflex has a mauve suede saddle with conchos that had little jewels in them. I wanted one! They also had olive green and beige for the manly guy :) I am looking to buy a BF Cheyene because I love my western model and my husband is going to use that. Lori's Tack has a blue one and red one on sale. Should I hold out for the Carmello one I want. I don't know what to do. Help. LOL Lorraine
[IceHorses] Fetch
Here's an article written by Holly several years ago, about teaching your horse to fetch: http://iceryder.net/fetch.html Check out the video at the bottom which is one of the ClickRyder horses. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] horse house clutter
when its cold I take the bit and put it underneath my huge american breasts and let the bridle hang out the bottom of my shirt Snort! Geez Janice...there you are again on the cutting edge of horsey innovation. I never thought of doing that :) Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Re: scooter
Lorraine Voog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Thanks to Karen I can share my good horse day with you all. 65 degrees and a little breezy. My husband actually went with me. Lorraine Great shot! I expect to see John Wayne riding out of the background! Where, exactly, is this? Susan in NV Happy High Desert Trails Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.
Re: [IceHorses] Icelandic Horse Video / Quotes
Actually it seems to be one of those quotes where its hard to pin down who really said it: Here's another good quote (Gail Ivey uses it on her posts): The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. -- Edmund Burke 1729-1797 It takes a strong person to stand up to things that are considered the norm but that may actually be hurting the horse. Not just anyone can do it. Probably most people can't. Good men are swimming upstream, walking in the opposite direction of the parade, fighting the crowd. Not only that, but good men take abuse from smart, highly educated, yet ignorant people. Not everyone, may be not even more than a few, will take the chance, to stand up for the horse. I am proud to say that we have more than a few on this list!! Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Premium Bareback Pad
may be a silly question, but -- why a bareback pad? i just ride stjarni bareback, and my impression was the typical icelandic build and gaits make for a pretty plushy ride. (stjarni's does, anyway :) yes, i end up covered in pony fur, but that happened when i was grooming anyway :) --vicka
[IceHorses] The Half-Pass
Descriptions of the Half-Pass: The half-pass is a lateral movement where the horse moves both straight and sideways simultaneously along an imaginary diagonal line. The horse is bent towards the motion around the rider's inside leg. The neck is bent so that the horse's outside ear is on the same line as the inside shoulder and the head is at the vertical. The horse should be slightly bent round the inside leg of the rider in order to give more freedom and mobility to the shoulders. Unlike the easier leg-yield, the horse is bent in the direction of travel, slightly around the rider's inside leg. ___ Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] hugh hefner
On 16/02/07, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hef was in my pasture this morning in his pajamas. I think he was in a little hef snit about something! Janice Amazing that you could look at a donkey and think of Hugh Heffner. Wanda
RE: [IceHorses] Re: Premium Bareback Pad
may be a silly question, but -- why a bareback pad? They keep your butt relatively clean. They aren't as slippery as a bare horse's back. If you want to ride longer and you weigh more than a flea, you can add a spinal pad to add a little protection for the horse's back. Maybe other reasons, but those are what comes to my mind right off the bat. Karen Thomas, NC
RE: [IceHorses] Gail Ivey
--- Robyn Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Judy, Well said messages from Gail, makes sense to me that it would come from a woman : ) - that is why we look at the TTEAM approach as a more feminine approach to horses (actually animals in general) - compassion, cooperation empathy. I really like that. We see so many people here not wanting their horse to be a willing partner, they want them to be obdient and complient, untill they are not, then they are seen as bad horses, or one that bucks from time to time, one you have to keep your eye on. When people come over and see our horses they are always surprised on how nice they are, not pushy, wanting to be around us, or just near.how reponsive and fun they are to ride.I figure if I am riding , my horse is carrying me, it is a team effort, and we both should be having fun. Of course some people around here totally disagree with me on that Storme Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097
[IceHorses] picture I almost deleted
I went out to the water trough to take a picture of ice for Janice, and apparently I had my camera set to 'night'. I went through the pictures and almost deleted this pic of Solon and Elska. Overexposed...but I like it. Wanda attachment: Solon_and_Elska.jpg
[IceHorses] oh dear
I tried out my chat feature, seeing wanda online and it came back that it was Brian so assuming it was her husband I flirted with him and asked what he was wearing and I think its her son??!? Will I get arrested?? I told him all i had on was a flannel shirt that smelled like dog and my ariats. he said he smelled like hydraulic oil. we are in love i think. I told him I weighed 98 pounds and have huge bosoms but that was before I found out he is a minor... Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Bob Marshall Treeless Sports Saddles
There's a few BM saddles on this ebay store: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZallisonQ5facres I am watching the first one, but the reserve is 900$ way too much!
[IceHorses] Re: Gail Ivey
Well said messages from Gail, makes sense to me that it would come from a woman : ) - that is why we look at the TTEAM approach as a more feminine approach to horses (actually animals in general) - compassion, cooperation empathy. Doesn't TTeam use a harsh roller bit w/ 7 in shanks and a stud chain? I was so confused when I saw that for sale on the TTEam website because I always thought that was such a gentle horsemanship method. Hope you can clear this up for me. :)
[IceHorses] Re: oh dear
i told him if he tells anybody I will kill his pet rabbit. janice -- yipie tie yie yo
[IceHorses] Winter wardrobe
I am going to walmart now in my frosty the snowman flannel sleep pants and mink coat and ariats. wish me well. Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
RE: [IceHorses] hugh hefner
Hef was in my pasture this morning in his pajamas. I think he was in a little hef snit about something! I always thought Hef was kind of an as...uh, ah, donkey... :) Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[IceHorses] Re: oh dear
he just told me its 24 there. no way! Its 28 here! in florida! Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Pink!
I am looking to buy a BF Cheyene because I love my western model and my husband is going to use that. Lori's Tack has a blue one and red one on sale. Should I hold out for the Carmello one I want. I don't know what to do. Help. LOL Lorraine get the one you want! But take pics of the blue and red ones and look at them and see if they grow on you... Janice-- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] oh dear
On 16/02/07, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried out my chat feature, seeing wanda online and it came back that it was Brian so assuming it was her husband I flirted with him and asked what he was wearing and I think its her son??!? Will I get arrested?? I told him all i had on was a flannel shirt that smelled like dog and my ariats. he said he smelled like hydraulic oil. we are in love i think. I told him I weighed 98 pounds and have huge bosoms but that was before I found out he is a minor... Janice Janice, my son came home from town and the first thing he mentioned was that he spoke to one of my friendsand then he started laughing. Janice I didn't realize you were an on line predator ;)Brian is 25 though so perhaps you won't be arrested. Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Tiv
Janice, how are you pronouncing Tivar? I often read these names and then wonder if I'm pronouncing them properly. I'm saying it like Tea-var... Is that right? Wanda
RE: [IceHorses] Tiv
The Teev is chillin in the freezing wind and sun. Hey, fire and ice! Florida style :) What a good-looking boy! Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] (704) 516-3179
Re: [IceHorses] oh dear
On 2/16/07, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Janice, my son came home from town and the first thing he mentioned was that he spoke to one of my friendsand then he started laughing. Janice I didn't realize you were an on line predator ;)Brian is 25 though so perhaps you won't be arrested. Is Brian single? bg (Poor guy, does he know that we're discussing him?) Steph -- Brutality begins where skill ends. Correctly understood, work at the lunge line is indispensable for rider and horse from the very beginning through the highest levels. Von Niendorff
Re: [IceHorses] oh dear
Is Brian single? bg Yes, he's single. (Poor guy, does he know that we're discussing him?) Yes, he has a fairly good sense of humour. Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] horse house clutter
On 2/16/07, Virginia Tupper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Janice should start a help column for all things horsey. Ask Janice I'll start... How do you warm your bit up if it won't stay where you specified Janice? (one of the lucky ones who buys the $3 walmart sport bras eg ) Steph -- Brutality begins where skill ends. Correctly understood, work at the lunge line is indispensable for rider and horse from the very beginning through the highest levels. Von Niendorff
Re: [IceHorses] oh dear
On 2/16/07, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, he's single. Too bad y'all are so flippin' far away! ;) Yes, he has a fairly good sense of humour. It's a good thing if Janice accosted him! LOL Steph -- Brutality begins where skill ends. Correctly understood, work at the lunge line is indispensable for rider and horse from the very beginning through the highest levels. Von Niendorff
Re: [IceHorses] picture I almost deleted
Neat photo. It looks very artsy! Cherie
Re: [IceHorses] brrr
I think it has a little donkey size hole in it :) Janice, Don't you live in Florida? Lorraine Happy Southwestern Trails No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail
Re: [IceHorses] hugh hefner
Hef was in my pasture this morning in his pajamas. I think he was in a little hef snit about something! How freakn' cute is that? Lorraine Happy Southwestern Trails Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index
RE: [IceHorses] hugh hefner
Hef was in my pasture this morning in his pajamas. I think he was in a little hef snit about something! Janice, I showed Cary the Hef picture and he said, She ain't right! Thought you'd appreciate that! :) Karen Thomas, NC -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.0/689 - Release Date: 2/15/2007 5:40 PM
Re: [IceHorses] Pink!
get the one you want! But take pics of the blue and red ones and look at them and see if they grow on you... I already did. I am looking at them now. I can save $150 if I get the red or blue one. Actually, $200 if I get the carmello saddle. Lorraine Happy Southwestern Trails
Re: [IceHorses] Saddle Measurement Boards
Of course, that is not the only measurement you need to have for a saddle. It's 3D, so there's more than just a few. The saddle will fit one way when it is placed on the horse and the horse is just standing there. The saddle can actively impact the horse when there is a rider in it, and when the horse is moving. Let's see how this works: Can you get a series of three pictures... one of the horse, from the side, just standing, with no tack (halter OK); one picture from the same side with the saddle on; one picture from the same side, with the rider in the saddle (rider: wear minimum, tight clothes so the saddle fit can be seen). Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
[IceHorses] Responding to Posts
Please be sure to delete all of the extraneous text in replies to the list (such as headers, footers, signatures, prior two messages, etc.), and only quote a line or two. It helps to keep our archives and digests neat, easily readable, and easily searchable. Thanks! Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Re: scooter and weather in Florida
the country roads. I wonder tho if its gonna warm up?? we may just have to do hula hoop olympics in the yard. Film at eleven! I didn't know it got that cold in Florida. I hate to rub it in again.. Oh what the hay. It is going to be 80 tomorrow. Lorraine Don't worry. I will be grumbleing in the summer months. Happy Southwestern Trails
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Gail Ivey
--- icyhugger5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that is why we look at the TTEAM approach as a more feminine approach to horses (actually animals in general) - compassion, cooperation empathy. Doesn't TTeam use a harsh roller bit w/ 7 in shanks and a stud chain? I was so confused when I saw that for sale on the TTEam website because I always thought that was such a gentle horsemanship method. Hope you can clear this up for me. :) Sally uses that bit on one of her horses, he is light and responsive and loves the roller a lot...we bought it after he was in one of Lindas clinics over here in Kona. I certainly can not tell you about the aspects of the bit itself, only about how her horses responds to it... Storme Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/
Re: [IceHorses] Re: scooter
Great shot! I expect to see John Wayne riding out of the background! Where, exactly, is this? That is too funny Susan. I live in Apache Junction, AZ. East of Pheonix about 30 miles. It is very scenic. Those are the Superstion Mnt. There was a article about them in Western Horseman a month ago. Yee Ha. Actually. John Wayne had a ranch around here years ago. Funny.. Happy Southwestern Trails
Re: [IceHorses] picture I almost deleted
On 2/16/07, Cherie Mascis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neat photo. It looks very artsy! I was going to say the same thing - almost looks like a painting -- Laree
Re: [IceHorses] Creating Templates of Horse's Back
CREATING TEMPLATES OF YOUR HORSE'S BACK FOR SADDLE FITTING By Dr. Kerry Ridgway More from Dr. Ridgway: Saddles are for obvious reasons built symmetrically, so when placed on a horse with muscle hypertrophy (enlargement) on one side, the tree rotates diagonally into a position in order to establish similar contact pressure on both sides of the wither pocket. Torque of the saddletree, however, may make contact and place excessive pressure on one side of the lightly covered thoracic spines and leaves more open space on the opposing side. Pressure exerted in areas close to bone (with little muscle covering) result in a significant magnification of the pressure. The result of this unilateral pressure is pain, and loss of ability to perform bending and lateral movements. The pressure can also create chiropractic joint issues in the thoracic vertebrae of the withers. The shoulder that is bulged laterally may strike the edge of the panel or bar as the scapula moves through its range of motion. This can create significant muscle bruising and serves to further twist the saddle. Because the opposite shoulder typically has more slope, the saddle may tend to fall or slip to the sloping shoulder side of the horse. This is a second reason for pressure on the thoracic spinous processes. The problem of slipping to the side is particularly troubling if the croup is also involved and is lower on the same side. This is can occur when a high/low conditions exists in the hind feet as well. More often, however when the horse is observed in motion, one side of the croup raises more on one side than the other it relates to, muscle balance, chiropractic or joint issues in the hind limbs. Regardless of cause, it creates an even worse scenario for slippage when combined with shoulder asymmetry. You can read the whole article here: http://www.ultimatesaddlesolutions.com/site/1558746/page/848484 Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Winter wardrobe
I am going to walmart now in my frosty the snowman flannel sleep pants and mink coat and ariats. wish me well. Janice You should really take a picture of yourself. I can just imagine that. Lorraine Happy Southwestern Trails
Re: [IceHorses] Responding to Posts
delete all of the extraneous text in replies to the list (such as headers, footers, signatures, prior two messages, etc.), and only quote a line or two. I have deleting all the extra stuff. Hope I am doing it right now. Lorraine Happy Southwestern Trails
RE: [IceHorses] Creating Templates of Horse's Back
Hi Judy, This is another good article by Dr Ridgway. While most horses tend to have diagonal lowness (low shoulder and diagonally low hip) and that makes the saddle slightly easier to fit, it is a bigger challenge when the horse is laterally low - low shoulder and hip same side. In these cases the rider will constantly feel the saddle going over to one side. That is made even worse if the riders collapsed side is the same as the horse's low side. You can tell which side collapsed (or is contracted through the ribs) because that on that side the rider may have a tendency to lose her stirrup or have it feel a different length than the other side. Robyn Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com
[IceHorses] Re: Gail Ivey
Once again it is how it is used - I would never shank a horse with the chain Thanks! :)
Re: [IceHorses] should I get red or blue or brown???
On 2/16/07, Lorraine Voog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: these are the BF Cheyenne saddles on sale. Lorraine That's a tough one...both are beautiful colors. Buy them both? LOL V
Re: [IceHorses] Tiv
On 2/16/07, Lorraine Voog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to have your pony. I love that color. I want to find one. AAAH. Lorraine Yeah, I second that! V
Re: [IceHorses] Better run!
On 2/16/07, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whoo! Curls started it with Walls and now he better run! My boys are froggy from the freeze :) Janice Do they play like that a lot? V
Re: [IceHorses] Re: scooter
On 2/16/07, Lorraine Voog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I live in Apache Junction, AZ. East of Pheonix about 30 miles. It is very scenic. What a fabulous place to live! V
Re: [IceHorses] horse house clutter
On 2/16/07, Stephanie Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/16/07, Virginia Tupper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Janice should start a help column for all things horsey. Ask Janice I'll start... How do you warm your bit up if it won't stay where you specified Janice? (one of the lucky ones who buys the $3 walmart sport bras eg ) And, what about the 'lucky ones' who are too small to wear a bra? V
Re: [IceHorses] Winter wardrobe
On 2/16/07, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am going to walmart now in my frosty the snowman flannel sleep pants and mink coat and ariats. wish me well. Are you shopping for anything particular? V
Re: [IceHorses] oh dear
On 2/16/07, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Brian single? bg Yes, he's single. Does he ride horses? V
Re: [IceHorses] Black Equissential full seat tights for sale
On 2/16/07, Stephanie Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/16/07, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dont forget the FRINGE. When I get my equissential tights someday mine are gonna have FRINGE. Fringe sounds good.. V
[IceHorses] Vosal
What is a vosal? Is that another word for bosal, or a misspelling of bosal? Or is it something different? Karen Thomas, NC -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.0/689 - Release Date: 2/15/2007 5:40 PM
[IceHorses] Gaited Versatility Challenge All Gaited Breed Dressage Show
Sounds like fun! United Mountain Horse Gaited Versatility Challenge All Gaited Breed Dressage Show April 21 22, 2007 Winchester, KY http://www.unitedmountainhorse.org/3dayfirst.htm Raven
Re: [IceHorses] Vosal
What is a vosal? Is that another word for bosal, or a misspelling of bosal? Or is it something different? I believe the difference is that a bosal is a stiffer piece of equipment, made from lariat rope (and may or may not have a wire within it), and a vosal is a more flexible piece of equipment, made more from rope or nylon. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Vosal
This is a vosal hackamore they sell at Sportack. Cherieattachment: 96519_full.jpg
RE: [IceHorses] The Half-Pass
Unlike the easier leg-yield, the horse is bent in the direction of travel, slightly around the rider's inside leg. I have been surprised how rarely anyone I've encountered with Icelandic's has talked about leg-yield, but how often I've hear trainers talking about getting the horses to do half-pass or shoulder-in. I have taught most of my horses to leg-yield, but not many pleasure horses I know are really prepared to do an actual half-pass or shoulder-in. It takes time for the horse - and the rider - to get conditioned and learn to do either of them correctly. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
