RE: [IceHorses] Re: Dreadlocks
I still wouldn't get it in his eyes though. Kim Orri's forelock is very long and is always in his eyes--I was concerned if product in his forelock would irritate his eyes. V _ Fine Dining Fancy Food. Check Out This Collection Of Good Eats. http://local.live.com/?mkt=en-ca/?v=2cid=A6D6BDB4586E357F!378
RE: [IceHorses] Human Rabies Vaccine Questions
Should I get a rabies vaccine since I'm handling 'unfamiliar' cats/dogs/whatever is bleeding on the side of the road? Even though I think I learned more about rabies than the average Joe last year when we got the vaccines, I'll be the first to tell you this: that is NOT a question for a yahoo list. That is a serious decision, the shots seem to be very low risk, but they are expensive. And, it's a totally different situation whether you want merely to take the preventive vaccine, versus if you might have had an actual exposure via this kitten.Talk to your MD, and maybe get a supporting opinion from your county health department's MD - but I wouldn't go on any layperson's recommendation. Karen Thomas, NC -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/737 - Release Date: 3/28/2007 4:23 PM
RE: [IceHorses] Burr pad
If anyone is interested in a Sensation Burr Pad, I have one practically new for $175. My boss wants a regular Skito pad. Does she want a Skito for a Sensation? I might be willing to trade What color is the Burr and is it cut for the trail model or the Hybrid? I have a black Sensation Skito that I've never used yet... Karen Thomas, NC -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/737 - Release Date: 3/28/2007 4:23 PM
Re: [IceHorses] Centered Riding Clinic for Icelandics in SE Vermont 12-13 May
Is Sally Swift still alive? She would be very old now if she is. Annie
[IceHorses] Re: Dreadlocks
Is there anything I could use to help? I don't want anything that will bother his eyes. V I don't know if it would irritate his eyes, but Cowboy Magic brand detangler works great. It is pricey. However, a little goes a long way. My gelding's mane and tail are coarse and have never tangled. I wondered if it was a breed characteristic, but I guess not -Kristen
Re: [IceHorses] Human Rabies Vaccine Questions
On 3/30/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even though I think I learned more about rabies than the average Joe last year when we got the vaccines, I'll be the first to tell you this: that is NOT a question for a yahoo list. That is a serious decision, the shots seem to be very low risk, but they are expensive. And, it's a totally different situation whether you want merely to take the preventive vaccine, versus if you might have had an actual exposure via this kitten. I'm not conerned about exposure since kitty and the entire covey of kitties was healthy. It's more a what if the next kitty I pickup isn't healthy. Or, I don't know the history. The vaccine I was told is around $600. I've called my MD to ask some questions, and I'm going to pick my large animal vet's brain tomorrow when I see him. Steph -- Brutality begins where skill ends. Correctly understood, work at the lunge line is indispensable for rider and horse from the very beginning through the highest levels. Von Niendorff
Re: [IceHorses] Hempfling
http://www.hempfling.com/haestfolk_article.pdf you know if the book is available in english? Yes, it is; it's an interesting book. He also has some videos, etc. http://iceryder.net/hempfling.html Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
[IceHorses] Scare The Foals For Respect
From A Good Horse Hath No Color, The Search for the Perfect Horse by Nancy Marie Brown: In America there are few half-wild herds of Icelandic foals with fire under their feet. We have predators, points out Elwell. Coyotes roam the wooded edges of her Hudson Valley farm; California and Canada, home to other breeding herds, have mountain lions; in Iceland, the only wild carnivores are minks and foxes, much too small to tackle a healthy foal. But with that caveat, Elwell and some others still manage to keep the culture in their horses by leaving them loose in well-fenced ten-to-twenty-acre pastures and resisting the urge to play with the adorable, cuddly foals. Other American breeders are not so careful. I saw one foal, two months old, that was so boring it was unbelievable, Elwell told me. It was kept alone with its mother in a small paddock beside the house, where it had frequent visitors. I said to the owners, 'This foal is going to grow up to be a turnip.' It had no spirit and, worse, no respect for humans. Elwell offered to set it straight. Approaching the turnip foal, she told me, I walked out quietly into the field, and, when I was within five feet of the foal, I jumped into the air and screamed. He jumped four feet in the air and took off. I chased after him and, when he stopped, I jumped again. Within two days he was starting to act like a horse again. Icelandics are so inherently bonding, Elwell warned. One of these foals will get up a few minutes after it's born and crawl into your lap. And the mare will say, 'Go ahead, take it.' You need to make them always alert to people, not quite sure what a person will do. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
[IceHorses] Re: Centered Riding Clinic for Icelandics in SE Vermont 12-13 May
Is Sally Swift still alive? She would be very old now if she is. She is! She'll be 94 on 20 April. :) (If anyone would like to send a card, they can to: 121 Oak Grove Ave, Brattleboro, VT 05301). She still makes it out to many of the clinics, even if just for a little bit. /Roo
Re: [IceHorses] Training Tosca
I'm testing here to see if I've finally figured out how to reduce file size. The attached photo was taken this morning during a training session with Tosca, who will become a therapy horse for our thirteen year old daughter Good job, Nancy! and thanks so much for the picture! Now you can send more! :-) Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Bits Do Not Control Horses
An article about bits: http://tinyurl.com/2xbmcl From Annalee: Indeed, as the author points out, bits do not control horses, but may I add that sometimes the bit is ADDING volumes to the horse's communications. That head-tossing and refusing to take the bit may not only be due to heavy hands and heavy bits but also soreness... As an example, my horse had always foamed at her mouth when being ridden (whether in a jaquima or a bridle) but only one side. I asked lots of folks about this one-sided foaming. Everyone said it was nothing to be concerned about. Then I noticed a kind of thicker, ropey saliva coming from her mouth. Called the vet, who said she might have a slight injury, to rinse her mouth with Epsom salts. I did. Ropiness got better. But then one day she avoided the bit, something she hadn't done before. Finally I got the bit in her mouth...To make a longish story a little shorter, the vet was in the neighborhood so he stopped by to take a look, after giving her a light doese of sedative. WOW! was he shocked! She had a 4 gash on the side of her tongue and along her inner jawbone, so deep it was near the bone. He was shocked that she had allowed any kind of a bit at all in her sore mouth, and told me that I really had a keeper; a super gentle horse. He advised riding her bitless for a while (10 days) so we worked on better communication through the sidepull and achieved it. Now that we're back in a bit again, she is more responsive than before. Most surprising to me however is the lack of foam in her mouth when we ride. Her previous owner said she'd always noticed the foam. I wondering if she had an old injury? and that's why she was mouthing the water pipe (to kind of soothe the inside of her mouth) when she got startled and jammed the pipe in her mouth? Guess we'll never know, but the foaming was a signal I think, as was some of her head tossing. She still lifts up her head when she wants a better look at something (kind of a quick lift up) and I'm thinking some of that head lift is a remenant of her old tossing to avoid discomfort--not from the hands holding the reins but from the mouth with the bit inside! Annalee Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Training Tosca
Here is my boy Atli with a boy that has cerebral palsy. Nice boy, Atli! Thanks for the pictures! Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Scare The Foals For Respect
--- Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need to make them always alert to people, not quite sure what a person will do. Is this for real? If so, that person is a NUT JOB! Sorry, so is anyone else who believes this! Susan in NV Happy High Desert Trails Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545367
Re: [IceHorses] March Savvy DVD
I was following everything he was doing until he started acting rude slapping the horse all over it's body while saying he had to be rude because the colt was introverted. I don't have the video so can't say what he was doing or why. I don't know that I would ever have a reason to do that. As a second thought, there is taportment, which is tapping, a type of massage to relax the muscles and release endorphins: By JP Giacomini: As soon as horsemen understood that more was achieved by gaining the horse's trust rather than vanquishing him, a means to create consistent relaxation (consciously or not) became the goal of all intelligent methods. This is why any trainer worth their salt knows that chewing, salivating, swallowing, licking and neck lowering are all desirable signs of relaxation which are very helpful indications of progress to come during horse training. These phenomena also occur during grazing, an activity that requires the peace of mind due to not having a prowling predator in immediate range. Grazing is a 16 hours a day activity in the wild because this time is necessary for a horse to survive on a vegetal, low energy diet. [On the other hand, carnivorous animals need a high energy protein diet that can be satisfied by eating every day or 2 and is achieved through a high level of excitability and alertness needed for the hunt.] Q: What is the connection between The 3 R's, grazing and chewing? A: Scientists tell us that horses are endorphin addicts and get it mostly from chewing. In a stable, a horse left without hay will try to satisfy his 'addiction' by chewing wood, repetitive movements (known as stable vices) or even biting himself (in the case of some stallions). This theory was proven by the fact that when morphin (artificial cousin of natural endorphin) inhibitors were administered to a horse that bites himself, the behavior stopped very quickly. Scientists also tell us that all relaxation begets endorphin release (and other physiological phenomena) in the same way that excitement releases adrenaline and sexual excitement releases testosterone. The reverse is also true, endorphin release begets relaxation, etc. Q: Then the idea is to get horses to have an endorphin release, but then what? A: Horses learn the most while relaxed, because it is the time when they feel safe enough to eat and indulge in their social behavior. The lengthy relaxation they enjoy from the chewing of their low calorie diet, also corresponds to increased blood flow to their digestive tract (for effective digestion) and their brain (for observing, reacting and learning in their social environment). On the contrary, when horses are fleeing (their most specific survival mechanism when attacked by predators), we know that the blood flow increases in the heart, lungs and major muscle groups involved in fast locomotion. As riders, we know that a fleeing horse doesn't think or learn, while a walking horse does. Baucher taught his horses mostly at the walk. This is why horses absolutely need to be calm in order to learn, which is demonstrated by neck lowering and the mouth activity described earlier (rather than the food itself). Dogs learn from the excitement corresponding to the hunt, which is key to their survival as predators. The food is the reward that actually corresponds to the kill. Dog trainers celebrate every progress with tidbit and a big game, while horse trainers return to the walk on a long rein after progress. Q: How did you come up with The 3 R's of Riding and how does it work? A: The 3 R's of Riding method I developed is the product of the experience of training many horses and studying the validity of past methods. The new behavioral knowledge explains very well what we have known intuitively and helps keep the process logical. Equitation is constantly evolving and is still a long way from a truly simplified method, but every new step is worth trying until a better one can be found. The 3 R's of Riding is a logical development of all previous attempts at obtaining the general relaxation of the horse on command. This has been the goal of all the historic equestrian methods we have heard of or are still practicing today, because relaxation is the unifying factor of the universal equestrian principal: CALM, FORWARD AND STRAIGHT. Clearly, a horse needs to be relaxed in order to be calm, but he also needs to relax the muscles antagonistic to propulsion in order to go forward. He needs to relax the right side muscles to bend left and vice versa. Anyone watching high level sport understands that those athletes work constantly at becoming relaxed in some specific way that suits their efforts. Yet this basic truth has not been spelled out in the horse world before in so many words of one syllable. Horse's relaxation has been mostly the product of the better riders' skill and own relaxation and limited to that. The 3R's offer a system valid for any body with a minimum skill to make the
[IceHorses] Re: Scare The Foals For Respect
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Approaching the turnip foal, she told me, I walked out quietly into the field, and, when I was within five feet of the foal, I jumped into the air and screamed. He jumped four feet in the air and took off. I chased after him and, when he stopped, I jumped again. Within two days he was starting to act like a horse again. Icelandics are so inherently bonding, Elwell warned. One of these foals will get up a few minutes after it's born and crawl into your lap. And the mare will say, 'Go ahead, take it.' You need to make them always alert to people, not quite sure what a person will do. I would guess she is right about this, with the show folks, I guess the horse really never can be quite sure what a person might do! I'd recommend they run for it. Kim
Re: [IceHorses] Human Rabies Vaccine Questions
On 3/30/07, Stephanie Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not conerned about exposure since kitty and the entire covey of kitties was healthy. It's more a what if the next kitty I pickup isn't healthy. Or, I don't know the history. I wanted to add a few things... This morning I talked to a few rescue/rehome cat people and they've all gotten their rabies vaccines. Two of them are in the south somewhere (I don't remember right now) the other one is in the midwest. My small animal vet said he looks for Rabies to become alot more common of a vaccine. Not sure if that'll happen. I called the health department, too. Waiting on a call from them. Wednesday night was horrific enough on it's own, I don't need this right now. On a good note, I'm in the process of moving out and changing jobs. The new job requires all sorts of vaccines since I'll be traveling all over the world, if I get the job then my rabies vaccine will be free. ;) I go for my interview Tuesday. Steph -- Brutality begins where skill ends. Correctly understood, work at the lunge line is indispensable for rider and horse from the very beginning through the highest levels. Von Niendorff
Re: [IceHorses] Cotton roping reins on ebay - in colors!
On 3/29/07, Cherie Mascis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are very comfy! Last year, I dyed a pair turquoise and they came out nice, but I see the Ebay person has bright purple ones that I must have (I can't get them to dye that bright in purple)! I have a pair of driving reains made out of this and I love them but is there a way to attach the reins to the bit without the metal clips - I don't like to use them because I think a lot of horses don't like the vibration of the metal on metal. -- Laree
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Icelandic Horse History / Low Blood Protein - oops!
Back to the subject though: if anyone finds any true medical differences in the breed, I'd like to hear about them, but for now, I just assume my Icelandic's are generic horses from a medical point of view. The only difference I've had first hand experience with is anesthesia and in both cases (notice - only two - definitely not definitive) is that it took less anaesthesia for my Icelandics than it did for a similar size horse. I think that has something to do with their metabolism being more similar to the draft horses.-- Laree
RE: [IceHorses] Human Rabies Vaccine Questions
if you get bitten, then yes, you should. it's not the huge deal it used to be, either. my mom had a rabies shot recently for being bitten by a bat. If your mom was bitten by a bat suspected of being rabid, then she must have had a series of shots...but then, that's why I advise people to check with their MD or health department. I think most people would consider the $10,000+ it cost for my husband and me to get the series (over a period of about a month) last June a reasonably huge deal - and insurance doesn't always cover it. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [IceHorses] Re: Dreadlocks
My gelding's mane and tail are coarse and have never tangled. I wondered if it was a breed characteristic, but I guess not I have 19 Icelandics here at the moment, and have owned six others. Of those, one regularly gets dreadlocks, and another occasionally gets a few. However, neither gets them NEARLY as bad as our old Arab, nor even as bad as the two TWH's. The Arab's mane is particularly fine and silky and I used to think that was the difference. However, the mane of our Icelandic mare who gets dreadlocks isn't particularly fine. Generally (always generally, right? LOL) I think it IS true that Icelandic manes and tails are easier to deal with than other breeds...thank goodness! :) Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[IceHorses] Breaking News - PET FOOD RECALL
Melamine has been found in effected dogs. ABC News is apparently now saying the numbers thought to be 1000 or more are now believed to possibly be 10 times that. Clinics are claiming patients are also affected by the DRY FOODS. A shipment of the suspect wheat gluten was received by one US maker of dry dog food, it isn't known whether it was used in the final product. No recall has been issued yet. Melamine is used to make plastic kitchen utensils and as a fertilizer in Asia. Associated links. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087sid=awNIdXyIlDc4refer=home http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/03/fda_plastics_ch.html http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/fda-finds-melamine-pet-food/story.aspx?guid=%7B99479E16-BE39-4314-99C3-34D1474C9E3F%7D Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com Idaho
Re: [IceHorses] Human Rabies Vaccine Questions
On 3/30/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your mom was bitten by a bat suspected of being rabid, then she must have had a series of shots...but then, that's why I advise people to check with their MD or health department. I think most people would consider the $10,000+ it cost for my husband and me to get the series (over a period of about a month) last June a reasonably huge deal - and insurance doesn't always cover it. Yes, the treatment shots (or exposure shots) are a huge deal, and not something I want to put myself through. It's not fair to say I got bit by kitty. She had a siezure and was bashing her head against the ground, so I put my hand under her head. I had cut my palm earlier in the week and had open wounds, and her teeth cut my hand and her blood and saliva was all over my open wounds. I looked like a war refugee, right now I have a bag of bloody clothing that needs to be washed. I had to scrub blood off my jewelry, I had it on my face, it was in my hair where I touched it. I could go the rest of my life and not go through another night like that with any animal. Steph -- Brutality begins where skill ends. Correctly understood, work at the lunge line is indispensable for rider and horse from the very beginning through the highest levels. Von Niendorff
RE: [IceHorses] Cotton roping reins on ebay - in colors!
I have a pair of driving reains made out of this and I love them but is there a way to attach the reins to the bit without the metal clips - I don't like to use them because I think a lot of horses don't like the vibration of the metal on metal. I've heard that, but I've never had an issue using the small scissor snaps because they don't have a lot of play in them. I've watched them, and fiddled with them myself and they just don't seem very wiggly. Some reins are made with bigger snaps, and I DO feel some vibration in that kind. That's especially true if the snaps are attached loosely to the reins by the manufacturer - then you have slop in the part attached to both the rein and the part attached to the bit and I could see that being a problem. I always use snap-on reins so I can take move the reins off easily if I need to lead the horse. One of my (many) pet peeves is leading a horse with the reins attached to the bit. Beware that the scissor snaps have a very low break strength though - usually under 100 pounds. We always try to be sure that our horses will lead with some float in the lead line (or reins used as a lead line...) so by the time a horse is wearing a bit, it's not really an issue. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[IceHorses] Charm, Backing Up
Here's a short video of Charm backing up: http://iceryder.net/charmbackup.html This is at liberty, no halter or lead rope. I leaned on and over her, and gave her the finger wiggle as a signal along with the voice command of Back. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
RE: [IceHorses] Human Rabies Vaccine Questions
--- Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should I get a rabies vaccine since I'm handling 'unfamiliar' cats/dogs/whatever is bleeding on the side of the road? Even though I think I learned more about rabies than the average Joe last year when we got the vaccines, I'll be the first to tell you this: that is NOT a question for a yahoo list. That is a serious decision, the shots seem to be very low risk, but they are expensive. And, it's a totally different situation whether you want merely to take the preventive vaccine, versus if you might have had an actual exposure via this kitten. Talk to your MD, and maybe get a supporting opinion from your county health department's MD - but I wouldn't go on any layperson's recommendation. Karen Thomas, NC I agree with Karen on this one...I would add besides an MD, go to a licensed Naturopathic Doctor as well ( a graduate from Bastyr, NCM or one of the other 3 Naturpathic Universities), as they have additional info on vaccines that an MD just does not have S. Lee
Re: [IceHorses] Human Rabies Vaccine Questions
On 3/30/07, Storme Lee~Fire Island Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Karen on this one...I would add besides an MD, go to a licensed Naturopathic Doctor as well ( a graduate from Bastyr, NCM or one of the other 3 Naturpathic Universities), as they have additional info on vaccines that an MD just does not have Do you or Sally know anyone in the Charlotte, NC area? Mine moved 2 years ago. I've made all sorts of phone calls today, and I've gotten mixed answers. Steph -- Brutality begins where skill ends. Correctly understood, work at the lunge line is indispensable for rider and horse from the very beginning through the highest levels. Von Niendorff
RE: [IceHorses] Burr pad
If that falls through, I'll let you know, and just in case I'll ask her if black is ok. Is this one of Kaaren Jordan's versions? Yes, it's very nice, 100% wool bottom and no-slip top...and never used. It's identical to my purple one that I use on Eitill. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [IceHorses] Bits Do Not Control Horses
Indeed, as the author points out, bits do not control horses, but may I add that sometimes the bit is ADDING volumes to the horse's communications. That head-tossing and refusing to take the bit may not only be due to heavy hands and heavy bits but also soreness... I think that was a good post. I do think it's possible to communicate with more refinement with a bit than without one, but I sure don't want to depend on one for everything. And personally, when I DO use a bit, I try to use the mildest one I can, and I try to test my horse (and me) by riding at least a few minutes of each ride without reins at all. There are horses though, like Tivar, who just don't like bits for whatever reason, and if the don't like them and don't need them, why bother? Karen Thomas, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[IceHorses] Re: Charm, Backing Up
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a short video of Charm backing up: http://iceryder.net/charmbackup.html This is at liberty, no halter or lead rope. I leaned on and over her, and gave her the finger wiggle as a signal along with the voice command of Back. She's pretty cute! Kim
RE: [IceHorses] Re: Icey History-Blood Protein-oops-Iceys are horses
while i fully agree on the nutrition and healthcare part, don't you feel that iceys are on the VERY EASY end of horse in management and especially in training? while i would never dream of starting an untrained big horse (or riding many a trained one, for that matter), starting Icey youngsters is fun. the young big horses of some of my friends (who are much better riders than i) take quite long times and lots of directed work to become dependable trail mounts, but the two Icey youngsters i have started have both basically begged to be taught and then progress amazingly quickly, and safely. don't you find that also? Overall, yes, absolutely - that's what converted me to the breed. But there are a few pretty easy big horses out there. The very last young big horse I worked with was a young QH, that we started under saddle at age four - I'd had him since he was a weanling. He was awfully easy too. I sold him to a couple of friends, and the wife, a beginner rider, took him to be her horse. He was seven when I sold him, ten now, and she and her grandkids ride him now. I think I see a LOT more Icelandic's like this, but there are easy horses of other breeds. And while I haven't encountered a really difficult Icelandic, I'd have to admit that some aren't quite as easy as others, particularly if they were started roughly and need to gain confidence in humans again. I take the attitude that you assume first that they are horses, then thank your lucky stars on the issues where they are extremely easy and sensible. :) Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] Breaking News - PET FOOD RECALL
On 3/30/07, ToltallyICE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Melamine has been found in effected dogs. ABC News is apparently now saying the numbers thought to be 1000 or more are now believed to possibly be 10 times that. Cheryl It just goes on and on. I use Wysong, AvoDerm and Royal Canin and haven't seen their brand mentioned anywhere as yet. Hope we're safe.! Ferne
Re: [IceHorses] They will need a treeless saddle for this one!
On 3/26/07, Sue McKenney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Baby born three days ago at the farm down the street from me! Sue How darling! We have a new calf here that we are bottle feeding (the mother died) and all the horses (and the donkey) and just fascinated! Ferne
[IceHorses] Susanna featured in USIHC Quarterly!
Our very own trainer, Susanna Widrig, is featured in the new issue of the USIHC Quarterly magazine! It is a nice article. Pretty exciting for those of us that think she is so great! Evidently the wider world had heard of her too. Ferne Fedeli No. California
Re: [IceHorses] Cotton roping reins on ebay - in colors!
I have a pair of driving reains made out of this and I love them but is there a way to attach the reins to the bit without the metal clips - I don't like to use them because I think a lot of horses don't like the vibration of the metal on metal. -- Laree I bought some leather bit keepers from Saddleuptack and had my shoe repair guy rivet them together around my bit rings and I fasten the reins to them. Works just great! Ferne Fedeli
[IceHorses] OT- Prescription Diet m/d Feline Dry Food Recall
FYI: Hill's Pet Nutrition, Inc. is voluntarily recalling Prescription Diet m/d Feline dry food from the market. Hill's is taking this precautionary action because during a two-month period in early 2007, wheat gluten for this product was provided by a company that also supplied wheat gluten to Menu Foods. U.S. Food and Drug Administration tests of wheat gluten samples from this period show the presence of a small amount of melamine. http://www.fda.gov/oc/po/firmrecalls/hills303_07.html Raven Lucy Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn, the American Ice Pony Dixie Chic, the Barn Goddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
[IceHorses] My little adventure with Scooter.
My friend and I were riding by the Salt river and saw some wild horse. Neato!!! On our way home Scooter was sniffing the ground and I thought he was smelling the wild horses. All of a sudden he went down (to roll). I stepped off and off he went. I thought he would come back because we had my friend's mule. He took off running up the hill. Where's my gun? LOL So he stopped. We got closer, he took off, we got closer, he took of. Finally he got sick of the game and waited for me to walk up to him with an apple. He could have ran all the way back to the trailer, but he didn't. I was afraid he wanted to join the herd. It was a safe and happy ending. Lorraine Happy Southwestern Trails Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097
RE: [IceHorses] Re: Dreadlocks
From: kim morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] (they do get matted body hair though), Orri has matts in his armpits!! V _ Check Out Our List Of Trendy Restaurants. You'll Eat It Up! http://local.live.com/?mkt=en-ca/?v=2cid=A6D6BDB4586E357F!378
[IceHorses] poker ride
I am riding Scooter in a poker ride tomorrow. Wish me luck Lorraine Happy Southwestern Trails Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html
RE: [IceHorses] Scare The Foals For Respect
--- Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hehehehe! How do you REALLY feel, Susan? You do recognize the name of the person being quoted, right? Nope! Never heard of the person, can't even remember the name. Who was it? Susan in NV Happy High Desert Trails Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html
Re: [IceHorses] poker ride
I am riding Scooter in a poker ride tomorrow. Wish me luck Good luck!!! Take pictures (or have someone take pictures of you and Scooter!). Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] poker ride
Take pictures (or have someone take pictures of you and Scooter!). Ok. I emailed about Stella. Haven't heard back yet. Lorraine Happy Southwestern Trails Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097
