[IceHorses] Re: My Horse Doesn't Tolt
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He fox trots, but no tolt. Her most recent message to me: I am pretty frustrated; spent a lot of money on his mother, spent a lot of money breeding to a good stallion and ended up with a horse that doesn't tolt. What would you say to her? Suggestions? I wonder if she studied the gaits of the parents at liberty and considered that and not only the prize classification of the horse and whether they were good? I wonder if the parents are 4 gaited? or what? I don't think looking at the evaluation scores alone is a good way to evaluate what kind of gait the horse might throw. I would stop trying to get him to tolt, would not send him for gait training, if she really wants a tolting horse, maybe sell him as a nice trail horse, because foxtrot is nice for a trail horse, accept him for who he is, or find someone who will, it's not fair to the horse to not fully appreciate them as they are, no good will come of that. Kim
RE: [IceHorses] Re: My Horse Doesn't Tolt
I would stop trying to get him to tolt, would not send him for gait training, if she really wants a tolting horse, maybe sell him as a nice trail horse, because foxtrot is nice for a trail horse, accept him for who he is, or find someone who will, it's not fair to the horse to not fully appreciate them as they are, no good will come of that. Yep...except that the longer I deal with these horses and hear of the evaluations, etc., the less sympathy I have for people who breed but insist on only ONE soft gait in their babies. Genetics simply aren't THAT predictable, so much that you can guarantee that every offspring will tolt/rack as opposed to run walk or foxtrot. And that's especially going to be true in a breed (ours) where the full range of gaits is expected, including pace. For heaven's sake, run walk and foxtrot are wonderful. If people are going to be THAT picky, that run walk isn't ok, or that they think foxtrot is a bad thing in a baby, then maybe they should stick to ATV's. I wonder how accepting they've been of the genetic divergences they've seen in their own children? Gosh, I never expected a beautiful, athletic and gifted artist for a daughter. I COULD be disappointed that she's not a math-science oriented person like her daddy and I, and that she's had certain health issues. But, I'm proud of the gifts my daughter has and don't fixate about the ones she doesn't have. There's plenty of room for all types in this world - humans and horses. I've bred for good gaits in my babies and it looks like we got them, but time will tell. Landi looks trotty now, but he got his mom and dad's brains, bravery and sweetness. (Melnir trots a lot in the pasture, but has offered gait from his very first times under saddle.) I suspect he'll gait fine when the time comes. I plan to keep him anyway no matter what his gaits are - he's a darned special yearling out of my favorite two horses in the world. He has his own wonderful qualities, and even if he only wants to trot under saddle, he's a jewel. We'll see what his gaits are when the time comes. My feelings for him are not contingent on his gaits. The real issue to me is the evaluations. I know horses are sometimes evaluated with good scores who don't have much of what I'd call natural gait. I feel sure it's quite possible to breed two horses who've evaluated well, and get a marginally gaited horse, or even a three-gaited one. I've tried not to breed too close to the trot edge or to the pace edge. But I don't think you can tell much about which edge you are dealing with by looking at scores. Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.11/837 - Release Date: 6/6/2007 2:03 PM
Re: [IceHorses] Mustang Slide Show
--- Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Slide show with pictures from three herds of wild Mustangs: When I rode in Nv. I saw heards all the time. I raised on from the BLM. Lorraine Happy Trails from Lori Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC
Re: [IceHorses] My Horse Doesn't Tolt
take him to a Liz Graves clinic. We had never seen my husbands horse do any easy gait under saddle and took him to a Liz clinic. She had him foxtrotting in about five minutes, then by barely wiggling just her fingers, adjusting headset, she got him in a running walk, saddle rack (slow tolt) and stepping pace. janice-- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Dapple Time!
--- Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charm's dapples are coming in. Judy Yes she is gorgous. I can't wait to see my new boy. My MFT is dappleing. Happy Trails from Lori Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/
[IceHorses] Litla Lina
My just 12 yo daughter has been riding our 3 yo icelandic, Litla Lina, this year. She's 70 lbs and has a great seat. Lina absolutely loves her and loves riding. She stands perfectly still for my daughter to mount, and then walks over to the gait, as if to say, Let's go for a ride. She has been riding bareback with a rope halter. They usually ride about an hour a day, mostly casual walking and grazing. They also go to bring the cows in twice a day from the back of the pasture (1/2 mile), which usually involves cantering and trotting. They are having such a great time together, that I hate to limit it, but I don't want to harm Lina in any way. I would like to hear some of your opinions about this as far as stress on Lina. Thanks, Meg
RE: [IceHorses] Litla Lina / early use
My just 12 yo daughter has been riding our 3 yo icelandic, Litla Lina, Meg, I'd like to see you try to stop her, at this point, your daughter is hooked. I have had the same experience and my oldest icelandic he's 9 yrs, and shows no detriment from early use. I too had young kids who couldn't resist the sweetness of this breed and would get on and go for a walk, trot, tolt and slip into an occasional canter. Just watch your horse for stress and don't let your daughter go with really high expectations of the horse, she's so young and a willing partner, you always want her to stay that way. Enjoy-Jeannette
Re: [IceHorses] Litla Lina
On 08/06/07, megdcl2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My just 12 yo daughter has been riding our 3 yo icelandic, Litla Lina, this year. She's 70 lbs and has a great seat. Lina absolutely loves her and loves riding. I don't doubt that she loves riding her and that they are a good team, however I suggest you read the following article that discusses horse maturity. http://www.womenandhorses.com/newsletter-2006january.html Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Litla Lina
Very interesting reading,, Wanda. I happened to be watching RFD TV this afternoon and Clinton Anderson (whom I like very much) was riding a couple of lovely two year old quarter horse fillies that were really well along in their training. Made me cringe. They were just so very young. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Litla Lina
I don't doubt that she loves riding her and that they are a good team, however I suggest you read the following article that discusses horse maturity. http://www.womenandhorses.com/newsletter-2006january.html Great article Wanda, and worth repeating. Also note that Dr. Bennett says there is no such thing as a breed that is slower-maturing than other breeds. Altho I'm glad that this is the general attitude among Icelandic owners, so at least in this breed the young horses are better allowed to mature properly. Robyn
