[IceHorses] Young Patient Trainer
Young patient trainer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNMIz-RjJyw Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Re: [IceHorses] FIRES
In a message dated 11/24/2007 6:59:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) WELL, we had a fire here in Ramona today and it was put out fast. Not a mile away from our place. Sylvia **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301)
Re: [IceHorses] winter chaps
> I'm considering ordering a pair of these for Kevin. > Gosh those look warm. It actually is cold today in AZ. What the heck. It is like 60 and windy. Lorraine Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [IceHorses] FIRES
We don't have any fires burning in the area. I live near Judy. Kim [moderator's note: previous message deleted from the bottom; please remember to edit posts when replying to the list. thanks!]
Re: [IceHorses] Barefoot? Shoes?
I am a barefooter, which is why I have the Track system with rocks, most use river rock, I use gravel, cause I ride on gravel... I have boots that I put on if my horse is ouchy, I don't use them often.. I and my horses love our track system, take a look~~~ http://picasaweb.google.com/dakota.charm/TrackForHorses
RE: [IceHorses] Re: sensation hybrid ? for Karen
Karen has 2 Hybrids with the dressage flap & XL seat with dressage cantle. I just noticed this, Kaaren. The only thing different about my Hybrids from the standard models is that they have the dressage cantles with the extended seats. They don't have the same flaps as my dressage saddle. Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.5/1148 - Release Date: 11/23/2007 7:39 PM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[IceHorses] winter chaps
I'm considering ordering a pair of these for Kevin. http://www.thebrandfarm.ca/WinterChaps.html Wanda -- Wanda Saskatchewan Canada
RE: [IceHorses] Re: Swedish Woman Saves Icelandic Ponies
>As for blood, I think someone told me they use >horse blood to make certain anti venoms or something?? >Janice-- >yipie tie yie yo Horse and sheep blood is used to make rattlesnake antivenin. Very small amounts of venom are injected into the horse. The amount is gradually increased until the horse or sheep develops antibodies in it's blood, blood is extracted and spun in centrifuge. The serum (liquid part of the blood) contains the antibodies and is used as antivenin. I think goats are used to make scorpion antivenin in Arizona. Cherie Western North Carolina Lilja, Roka (Icelandics)and Tyra (Fjord)
RE: [IceHorses] Re: sensation hybrid ? for Karen
>>> The Western Sensation is the only model out right now that has a longer base length for the horse of about 4". >From the pictures, I'm not sure I'd consider the Western Sensation to have a "base" of 4" longer than the other Sensation models. The extra length on the western model appears more like a "skirt" on a treed western saddle than what I'd consider a "base" on an English type saddle, which may or may not be relevant to how the saddle fits the horse. A skirt is mostly for looks, and if it's soft, it doesn't really matter too much how long it is. This sounds picky maybe, but I've wondered if a western Sensation might actually work better on Melnir, because it doesn't have the wide "flaps" down the side, even though the base/skirt of the saddle is longer. I just can't be sure what dimension makes the Hybrid walk back a little on him. But... I don't need another saddle - the dressage works fine. :) Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.5/1148 - Release Date: 11/23/2007 7:39 PM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [IceHorses] Oh my...
>>> I am starting to learn about fit and it looks way to long. Don't ya think? Yes I do - VERY long! Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.5/1148 - Release Date: 11/23/2007 7:39 PM
RE: [IceHorses] Re: sensation hybrid ? for Karen
The first few off the presses dressage Sensations were about 3/4" - 1" shorter in the base for the horse than the then standard English Trails. I'll try to get the measurements tomorrow, but my dressage model is more than 1" shorter than my Hybrids. Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.5/1148 - Release Date: 11/23/2007 7:39 PM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[IceHorses] Re: sensation hybrid ? for Karen
Just to clarify, the XL (extra long seat ) seat does not change the base length of the Hybrid or any other Sensation saddle. The cantle is just moved back 1" on the base & the dressage cantle is not as wrap around or deep as the standard Hybrid cantle so it is more roomy/less confining than the standard Hybrid cantle for the rider. Nothing changes for the horse. Karen has 2 Hybrids with the dressage flap & XL seat with dressage cantle. Janice MacDonald has a Hybrid with dressage flap & st andard Hybrid cantle. I think I am the only dealer that has demo models in the Hybrid with English Trail flap/XL seat dressage cantle & Hybrid's with dressage flap/ XL seat with dressage cantle. They are my best sellers of all the models so far. The first few off the presses dressage Sensations were about 3/4" - 1" shorter in the base for the horse than the then standard English Trails. Dressage models do ride a bit smaller for the rider as well because of the deeper pommel & deeper cantle in that model. The slightly shorter base length occured in just these first few models. Since then all the exchangeable parts for the Sensation are die cut at the manufacturers so base lengths/all parts are about the same. All that being said, humans are making them & leather handles/stretchs differently from hide to hide so there are still some very slight variations from saddle to saddle . The Western Sensation is the only model out right now that has a longer base length for the horse of about 4". Kaaren
RE: [IceHorses] Re: Oh my...
I agree about the ones that zip and unzip. My Hilason is the endurance and it unzips and the hard foam will come out. I am looking for the wool that you stuff a saddle with to put in the pockets. Most saddlers don't even reflock with pure wool any more, so I'm not sure where you'd find it. I think anyone who deals for Stubben might have it - not sure if they'd sell you some though. >>>The problem with this saddle is the seat is flat and it stops the neck from coming up at the withers unless I set the thing back some. If your horse has mutton withers that is fine but if the horse has any withers at all it is hard on them I would think. >From all I've heard, I'd gather that there are a lot of design flaws with the Hilasons that you don't find in the better brands, even the not-too-pricey brands like Barefoots. >>>If I were rich I would get a Sensation Hybrid. The Sensations work the best for us. Maybe you'll get lucky and find a used one before long. Unfortunately, used ones seem to get snapped up quickly. Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.5/1148 - Release Date: 11/23/2007 7:39 PM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Oh my...
In a message dated 11/24/2007 3:46:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) I agree about the ones that zip and unzip. My Hilason is the endurance and it unzips and the hard foam will come out. I am looking for the wool that you stuff a saddle with to put in the pockets. The problem with this saddle is the seat is flat and it stops the neck from coming up at the withers unless I set the thing back some. If your horse has mutton withers that is fine but if the horse has any withers at all it is hard on them I would think. I have thought about cutting the front back some to help. Oh boy what we go through to fit these horses. I have an Icelandic saddle made in England? It has a tree and its too tight for my horse. If I were rich I would get a Sensation Hybrid. Sylvia **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301)
Re: [IceHorses] Skito pad for sale
Thanks, we honestly are really lucky to have this place... I am grateful... let me find one it is on Circle Y... Omaha... I will have to look up the demensions for it... I just got home.. I will tomorrow.. Debbie -- I and my horses love our track system, take a look~~~ http://picasaweb.google.com/dakota.charm/TrackForHorses
Re: [IceHorses] They're HERE!
> Here is Cilia with the first born. > AAA. Cute Lorraine Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Oh my...
In a message dated 11/24/2007 3:13:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Be careful of the hilason saddles they run smaller than western, I have a 15 and its tight. I am five two and weigh 120 lbs, a six jeans. Sylvia **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301)
RE: [IceHorses] Re: Oh my...
>>> Thought if I'd go to a 19" I would have more room, but now listening to everyone saying it is big, I don't know. I mostly would like to try it instead of a cheap bareback pad that seem to slide too much. I really don't like the idea of a Bob Marshall saddle in a seat size that big on any Icelandic that I've seen. The BMSS get REALLY long in the larger seat sizes. >>> Karen, you mentioned once that your husband is a bit more solid built, and rides in a treeless, what size saddle does he use? He hasn't ridden in a treed western saddle in so long that I'm not sure his size, but I'd guess he'd need at least a 17", maybe bigger. His last treed saddle was an 18" Free N Easy Flex Panel saddle. Before that, an 18" Duett brand dressage model and it was really too snug for him. He now rides in a Sensation Trail model now, standard seat length. Unlike the Bob Marshall, the Sensation has no rigid parts, so we don't have to worry about loin rubs or his weight being transferred to the back of the rigid cantle. He's free to balance his weight where the horse's conformation demands, even though he is a big rider. (He still needs to ride a decent-sized, strongly-built Icelandic - no saddle will make him seem like a small rider!) Also, if a treeless saddle only weighs about 10lbs and is flexible, would it really cause that much of a problem if it sits further back over the loin, as long as the rider sits balanced in the centre? I'd say that's pretty much true...EXCEPT for the treeless saddles that have rigid pommels and cantles. The Sensations are flexible throughout, but some treeless brands have notable rigid parts. This is key: while I thought my old BMSS was fairly comfy, and Sina did pretty well in it for a while, all BMSS's have a rigid pommel and cantle and they can't be removed. There are some newer style treeless saddles similar to the BMSS (Torsion, Barefoot, etc.) that have rigid pommels and cantles, BUT their pommels and cantles zip open, and you can remove the hard pieces. That's exactly what I've done with my Torsions, and re-stuffed them with the pillow-stuffing stuff you get in the craft department at Wal-Mart. If you do that, you eliminate the rigid pieces, but it still gives a surprising amount of shape to the saddle, to keep them from rolling. (If you take the time to learn to mount carefully.) That isn't an option with the BMSS's. Even though I have to be grateful for the BMSS being one of the first treeless saddle options available, a lot of people now consider them to be "part-treed" compared to saddles like the Sensations. Did any of this help, or did I make it worse? Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.5/1148 - Release Date: 11/23/2007 7:39 PM
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Oh my...
On 24/11/2007, Monica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also, if a treeless saddle only weighs about 10lbs and is flexible, > would it really cause that much of a problem if it sits further back > over the loin, as long as the rider sits balanced in the centre? It's not really the weight of the saddle that counts, it's where it places you in relation to the horses back. If the saddle places you on or near his loins you're going to cause him pain. It's best to try find a saddle that places you in that sweet spot we all strive for. Wanda
RE: [IceHorses] sensation hybrid ? for Karen
Hello Karen, Why do you think the hybrid does not work as well on Melnir? Is he built a lot different from your other horses, shorter back?? Renee He's built differently. First, he's smaller, but what I suspect is the bigger issue is that he has pretty laid-back shoulders - not upright, but angled back. He also has a rather long humerus bone, one that is more parallel to the ground as opposed to some of the more show-type Icelandic's. For instance, I'd count Runa as my most "show-type" Icelandic. She has a rather upright shoulder with more sloped angle to her humerus. In other words, Runa has the conformation for nice gait in her rear end, but her front end conformation makes it easy for her to do a true rack, with some "lift and fold" to her front legs. Melnir is more of a long, flat mover - he's built to foxtrot and/or runwalk, although he can saddle rack. All that said, I CAN use a Hybrid on Melnir. It was really the 17" Torsion that didn't work well on him - it "walked back" on him. My particular Hybrids are the extended seat models, so I suspect the shorter, standard seat versions would be fine. My Hybrids will work, with a breastcollar. But, since he's a smaller horse anyway, I just use my standard-seat Sensation dressage model on him - it's more attractive with his smaller proportions and it works like a charm. To put this in perspective, four years ago I would have been VERY happy to have any of these "problems" with Sina. None of these are serious issues, especially compared to what I went through with her, but since I do have options now, I use them. Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.5/1148 - Release Date: 11/23/2007 7:39 PM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[IceHorses] Re: Oh my...
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Jeannette Hoenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Does someone really think this saddle fits this horse?< > > > > I think the saddle needs to be brought forward a good bit more than it currently is, and if I had it on my icelandics, it would migrate forward so the girth finds the sweet spot underneath, not so far back as it is in the picture, I mostly ride on a torsion saddle and it is a nineteen inch seat, and it doesn't sit so far back on the loins as you say, and I got the 19 in. Hilason western style that also sits nicely on the iceys but . Hi, I thought the saddle could also go forward a bit more, but I don't really know. I was just looking at a Hilason trail version on ebay, that is a size 19". I am tall and big, usually ride in a 17" Abetta, but thought an 18" might not give me enough room as they seem to measure differently (what is the proper way to measure, diagonally like an english saddle or from pommel to cantle?). Thought if I'd go to a 19" I would have more room, but now listening to everyone saying it is big, I don't know. I mostly would like to try it instead of a cheap bareback pad that seem to slide too much. Also I have a hard to fit mule and an even harder to fit Stbd with uneven sides/sore back issues where the treeless might work. Karen, you mentioned once that your husband is a bit more solid built, and rides in a treeless, what size saddle does he use? Also, if a treeless saddle only weighs about 10lbs and is flexible, would it really cause that much of a problem if it sits further back over the loin, as long as the rider sits balanced in the centre? Sorry, about all the questions, but this is such an informative group with a lot of experience.Thanks! Monica Lamothe Ontario
[IceHorses] El Chino
my cousin Ivey went to the national Paso show and won a free breeding to the dancing paso El Chino and has a beautiful little jet black gelding out of him. He is almost 5 now and has long long mane and tail and is very very petite. His name is Chino also :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pcii1rVczws Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
[IceHorses] sensation hybrid ? for Karen
Hello Karen, Why do you think the hybrid does not work as well on Melnir? Is he built a lot different from your other horses, shorter back?? Renee **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301)
[IceHorses] FIRES
Has anyone heard from Judy?? The fires are back... Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Swedish Woman Saves Icelandic Ponies
in PMU horses, they usually used draft horse mares because they produced a large volume of urine. I would think a pony would not produce so much urine. As for blood, I think someone told me they use horse blood to make certasin anti venoms or something?? Janice-- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] handsome guy
I love Solon! what a FACE. Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Founder / Teeth
my jaspar was in such a starved state. I had had his teeth done and tried everything, then a new vet said wow, he has one sharp tooth and its caused an abscess in the roof of his mouth, and fixed it, now he has gone from 915 to 974 in two weeks so I am cutting feed back to what he used to eat before the sudden weight loss, what he ate when he was a good weight, but still adding his supplement... think thats a good plan?? I dont want to hurt his feet by him gaining too fast... but this weight gain is wonderful, I thought I might lose him, my dear old heart. Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
[IceHorses] Jas-oh my gosh!
Its been two weeks since Jaspars teeth were done and now hes gone from 915 to 974!! I am backing off the supplements Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] They're HERE!
> The baby is beautiful - right list or no. Thanks Nancy! Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandic Sheepdogs Puppies by CH Vesturhlithar Loki are HERE! Website: www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] They're HERE!
The baby is beautiful - right list or no. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] They're HERE!
Oh shoot! No wonder it's not showing up on right list. Did I mention it had been a long 60 hours! Sorry! Can I sleep now? Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandic Sheepdogs Puppies by CH Vesturhlithar Loki are HERE! Website: www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Re: [IceHorses] Oh my...
On 24/11/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Explain this to me about the Bob Marshall saddle? I am looking at one on > Ebay. Does it slide back or what? It appears to sit too far back on your horse > or is that where it is supposed to be? Sylvia It's on the edge of what I would consider to be too long. It's a 14 inch saddle on a rather large Icelandic (13.3). It doesn't slide back at all, when it's on Gusti it doesn't move. I'm sure we could ride around with the girth undone and it would stay right where it is. However, having said that. Gusti does move out better in the Sensation. I started looking through pics of when we first tried the Sensation on Gusti. My daughter and I noticed a difference in him. So maybe it IS too long for Gusti. I don't know. What does everyone else think? Do you think it's too long? Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Another boring picture of Dagur and I
> > > Beautiful - so when is the best time to come visit? > Can I camp out in your driveway with my > truck/camper? > Actually right now is. I am off for 3 weeks. Lorraine Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ
Re: [IceHorses] Barefoot? Shoes?
, > but ... how many of you > are able to ride barefoot always and who feels they > need to shoe? Here is AZ it is very rocky. My friend Carla who is on the list sometimes rides barefoot. My new guy is sensitive with shoes on. Not use to the rocks. I ride Scooter with fronts only because he isn't easy to shoe. He does great. Lorraine Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ
[IceHorses] Re: Oh my...
> There is a BMSS for sale on ebay that says it fits well on the back of an > Icelandic: http://tinyurl.com/37nwem > > Does someone really think this saddle fits this horse? What's the story on this horse and the owner? He is a large rider? Does he own more Icelandics? Judy
Re: [IceHorses] Another boring picture of Dagur and I
Susan, The best time to go visit is when it's so cold up our way that riding stops being fun - it it ever does. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Daughter and Teev
> here are pics of my daughter riding Tivar. She has > been visiting for Both very cute Lorraine Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [IceHorses] Another boring picture of Dagur and I
On 11/24/07, Lorraine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq1B-WHzzFs Ha! That's my kind of boring! -- Anna Southern Ohio
RE: [IceHorses] Oh my...
> Does someone really think this saddle fits this horse?< I think the saddle needs to be brought forward a good bit more than it currently is, and if I had it on my icelandics, it would migrate forward so the girth finds the sweet spot underneath, not so far back as it is in the picture, I mostly ride on a torsion saddle and it is a nineteen inch seat, and it doesn't sit so far back on the loins as you say, and I got the 19 in. Hilason western style that also sits nicely on the iceys but I don't prefer it as it has a horn that gets in my way when I bend down to put my foot back in the stirrups, one of these days one of my boobs is going to burst when I have to go forward, I am so used to riding without a horn in front that it is an annoyance now, but the saddle is useful for new riders who aren't used to treeless saddles and balance seats so in that regard, it is nice to have a handle to grab until they are a better rider and as I had mentioned before, I have 3 very different shaped icelandics and one cream draft horse so it is nice to have treeless saddles so I can switch them around, my old half breed big horn saddle with full quarter horse bars wasn't wide enough for any of my horses so I sold it to a neighbor who owns a appy pony and it works great on him, and she has a 1 year old icey colt who looks to be much more narrow than mine and will probably fit him too when the day comes to start him under saddle. I did get pics of my big red saddle but haven't figured out how to get it on the site,, I know I went to my yahoo address the last time I put in pics but I don't remember after that. Any help would be appreciated. The pictures are on my digital Kodak camera, if anyone is familiar with that.Jeannette in very cold Maryland-in the teens last nite.
Re: [IceHorses] Barefoot? Shoes?
--- Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On another list I'm on, those are fighting words, > but ... how many of you > are able to ride barefoot always and who feels they > need to shoe?<< In my area that I mostly ride in, I do not need shoes. However, travel even 30 miles in another direction, and you do, so I am going with boots for those times, and the easy boots that don't go above the coronet band for long distance. Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ
Re: [IceHorses] Another boring picture of Dagur and I
--- Lorraine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq1B-WHzzFs > Beautiful - so when is the best time to come visit? Can I camp out in your driveway with my truck/camper? Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[IceHorses] My Black Friday bargain
Our local Big R store had a 20% off everything in the store sale yesterday. I ended up with what I think is a great bargain - I bought 50 lbs of psyllium for $131. Oh, and I got my self a pair of what I call riding sneakers - multi-sport sneakers with a slight heel. I hope they are comfy to ride in! That was the extent of my Black Friday Shopping! Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [IceHorses] Daughter and Teev
She looks like she's having a grand time. Nancy
[IceHorses] Barefoot? Shoes?
On another list I'm on, those are fighting words, but ... how many of you are able to ride barefoot always and who feels they need to shoe? All of our endurance horses are shod because of rocky terrain. We never needed to shoe the Welsh ponies because they rarely left the arena, and the good old pony Gypsy that raised our daughters had shoes only one summer when they simply rode her until she couldn't be barefoot When Bev and husband return from Hawaii, I'll ride Tosca a couple of times in a lesson format, then she's all mine . She would never need shoes for what Stephanie will do with her, but I am on a mission to make her a really solid citizen before she goes on to her career as a therapy horse. For one thing, there are a couple of grandaughters who will probably be thrilled to have a chance to keep her fit. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Award / Renee
On Nov 19, 2007 8:36 PM, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > An award for Renee for showing nosebandless! Nice certificate! Kudos to Renee!!! Ferne
[IceHorses] Another boring picture of Dagur and I
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[IceHorses] fires again!
is everybody ok?? Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Oh my...
In a message dated 11/24/2007 7:03:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Explain this to me about the Bob Marshall saddle? I am looking at one on Ebay. Does it slide back or what? It appears to sit too far back on your horse or is that where it is supposed to be? Sylvia **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301)
Re: [IceHorses] The view behind my house with Dagur
> whoo hoo cute Lorraine! is that a steppin pace?? > Janice--What is that? Lorraine Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
RE: [IceHorses] The view behind my house with Dagur
> > > Gosh, that's just breath-taking, Lorraine! > > You should have seen it when the full moon appeared over the top. Cool Lorraine Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [IceHorses] Oh my...
> > Does someone really think this saddle fits this > horse? > I am starting to learn about fit and it looks way to long. Don't ya think? Lorraine Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ
Re: [IceHorses] The view behind my house with Dagur
> rocky - do your guys need shoes? > It is very rocky. Dagur is sensitive even with shoes. Hopefully he will get use to it. He is wa. Lorraine Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Swedish Woman Saves Icelandic Ponies
>> What the heck is this all about? What are they using the Ice Ponies > for?? > > I briefly looked at the page the other day, but what happened to it? > It appears to be gone now. > > Judy > Hi list I think it´s gone because the foals did arraive to Sweden last week I think it was 20 of them and the rest is probly on their way to the slaughter house as thoose PMU foals that don´t sell either. but in regards to building & sometimes mind I do ask the same question as above what are they gonna use them for. But of course she probly weaded out the best in building or I hope so at least. Regard Malin in Iceland PS so any wanna save the rest of meat production? they are about 1000 foals a year at least
RE: [IceHorses] Pics of my trip to Hawaii-Founder myths
--- Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My old Arab is Insulin Resistant and the vet says he may have > Cushings too. She said to watch him very carefully and check his > hooves in the mornings before I turn him out. She said he could > get Laminitis very easily and it would not be anything I'm doing as > I have him on a pretty low carb diet already... > > > That's what I was talking about, Ferne. Even with the best of > care, there will be times when horses will develop laminitis. > Managing diet and exercise can help and maybe even prevent some > cases, but there's a limit to how much a person can do. > Karen I really agree with this Karen. There are Cushings horses, I believe we have a cushings Icelandic which we manage very carefully with LMF low carb feed. Every batch is tested for the sugars. And there are people who just plain overfeed their horses, give too much grain, do not know what to look for...think that a fat horse is a good thingall this shows up in their feet so fast that a good farrier can tell if there is a change in food if there is a problem. Both things happenits whats makes up a big percentage of our farrier business. Sally is a Physician so she really understands the research and dealt with IR humans in her clinic in Seattle. The vets love her (except for the ones who do not like anyone else who knows anything...an unfortunate humane characteristic) as they can actually talk medical terms in dealing with these horses. Some horses are IR and some are overfed and fed incorrectly. Sometimes out of ignorance, sometimes thats how the owners show their love to their pets. And of course road founder, thats another whole issue of overworking a horse...
Re: [IceHorses] Skito pad for sale
> My hubby wants one for his Circle Y flex tree Round > back western > saddle... I wonder if it would fit? > You have a beautiful place. I don't know what kind of saddle you have. Send a pic Lorraine Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [IceHorses] The view behind my house with Dagur
> Ohmigosh - it is SO beautiful there. > You should come visit. Couldn't be too far. Lorraine Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ
Re: [IceHorses] Oh my...
Karen, I'm real nervous about the treeless saddle concept because of riding with a lady who weights a lot less than I do, but still has difficulty getting on and off her horse. She works for Candace Kahn, so I suppose she's using one of the saddles Candy sells. She rides 50's and 75's, farther than I probably will, and her horse sometimes gets s little sore and weary. That sounds pretty stupid. Her horse is more sore and weary than you would expect her to be. I am concerned about my weight (160 lbs) and I am trying to do something about that and about the horse's back over the longer times we might spend out on trail. When I first returned to riding after my back injury, I worried about not staying centered. I knew that I wasn't because my right stirrup leather kept stretching. I seem to have resolved that. I have to wonder if it was associated with scoliosis. My right shoulder wants to drop lower too if I am not thinking about staying balanced - even while typing. Nancy
RE: [IceHorses] Oh my...
>>> I was thinking of having the Supracor pad I like cut down by a saddle maker >>> to fit whatever new saddle I eventually buy for the two mares - well I >>> guess that's a bit of a leap, assuming one saddle would fit both girls. It depends on the saddle, Nancy. If you're talking about a treed saddle, yes, it's likely a leap to assume that one saddle will fit two horses. But, every Icelandic on this farm goes well in the Sensation Trail models and the Sensation Dressage. The Hybrid doesn't work quite so well on Melnir, but seems great on all the others. Even big old Cary rides his Perfect Skjoni Pony in an English Trail model. I'm sure there are SOME Icelandics out there somewhere that might not work well in a Sensation, but they darned sure work well on most of them. I'd bet there's a good chance that you can find yourself a treeless saddle that will work for both. Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.5/1148 - Release Date: 11/23/2007 7:39 PM
Re: [IceHorses] Oh my...
I was thinking of having the Supracor pad I like cut down by a saddle maker to fit whatever new saddle I eventually buy for the two mares - well I guess that's a bit of a leap, assuming one saddle would fit both girls. Endurance riders need to deal with keeping their horses as cool as possible and having lots of excess pad doesn't help. Since the horse's backs are checked for pain/discomfort, we also have to have adequate and appropriate padding. It's a bit of a balancing act. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Oh my...
Oh man! Nancy
[IceHorses] Oh my...
There is a BMSS for sale on ebay that says it fits well on the back of an Icelandic: http://tinyurl.com/37nwem It is a NINETEEN AND A HALF inch seat! Oh, my... The saddle is sitting past the loins, all the way to the horse's pelvis. Personally, I was never satisfied that Sina could comfortably use a BMSS sized above a 15", and I finally decided that none of mine really should be ridden in a seat size longer than about a 16-16.5" and that would be one of the larger horses. Does someone really think this saddle fits this horse? Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.5/1148 - Release Date: 11/23/2007 7:39 PM
