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--- Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sylvia has an ancient dodge van and one of those tiny straight load > old 1980s trailers. Everything on its been replaced two or three > times. Now she is gonna paint the trailer and the van matching > camo > :) > Janice We want to camp with our horses too. We have finally figured out where to go here and do that. Some places are just a ride from our barn, and some are a trailer ride. We have one of those old 1980's straight load trailers. The feed/tack area was taken out and there is no divider, so its much more 'like' a stock trailer. WE want an aluminum stock...but thats about $14,000and believe it or not our old trailer cost us $2,500 here. We should have brought our old trailer from Washington with us when we moved...I bought it for $600, sold it for $500, and here I could have gotten $2,500. Some things are cheaper here, some things are just outrageous! Took a lovely ride today down to the ocean with some visiting trekking guests...it was awesome. Tomorrow ride up to a big crater for the full ocean view. Skye Fire Island Eco-Treks-808-443-6085 Fire Island Professional Farrier Service-640-6080
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On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 1:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I used to be a backpacker (when I was in college and too > poor to have a horse) so I get a giggle out of doing the catered > camping deal. However, I have suffered and gone hungry out in the > wilderness and, oddly enough, the catered camping is pretty neat. We did some backpacking/camping in the around '88 to '92, but the food did us in. You hike all day, come into camp starving and then had to eat those freeze dried meals (there are better choices these days). I'll never forget hiking into Point Reyes campsite and then not being able to get our little stove lit because of the wind. We were supposed to spend another night out but went back because we were too hungry! We progressed to a 35' used Blue Bird Motor coach with all the bell's and whistles. A great way to see the country and we could take our dogs too!. Sold it in 2000 after living in it full time for 6 mos on our property while our house was being built. Now the pickup and horse trailer sit in its spot in the garage. Hard to go back to tent camping after that. We did do two nights camping in a tent with Calvin in a portable electric coral. Didn't get much sleep and I was worried about being trampled in our tent by horses that might get loose as we were at a competitive trail ride. -- Anna Southern Ohio
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Now she is gonna paint the trailer and the van matching camo Oh good grief! Does she know my grandsons? Nancy
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Sylvia has an ancient dodge van and one of those tiny straight load old 1980s trailers. Everything on its been replaced two or three times. Now she is gonna paint the trailer and the van matching camo :) Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
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>my friend sylvia came and camped in my yard for a weekend once and she >lived better than me. she had better coffee and better meals and >curly ray started hanging out with her instead of the herd. i would >look out there and she would be drinking coffee and he would be >standing by her and glower at me like "whatta you want, me and my new >friend are camping." >Janice Yep, Sylvia has camping down right .. there is no need to suffer as part of the "camping experience". And that amazing coffee aroma that mingles with the fresh air in the camps. A friend of mine makes amazing coffee (www.blinddogcoffee.com) and awakening to that is just heaven. Now, I can't do cooking no matter if I am camping or not, so Sylvia is way ahead of me there. I don't have a Curly Ray, either, but maybe that's something I should look into ;-) I do, occasionally, take the Border Collie, though. She likes to snooze all day in the pick-up (she has a weird "thing" with the truck). Hhhhmmm, I think I am having camping withdrawal. Penny
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it reminds me of those people who pay 300,000 dollars to climb mount everest. The price covers meals, oxygen tanks, and sherpas bringing you hot tea into your tent while you are still in your sleeping bag. Edmund Hillary is probably spinning in his grave like Elvis was when Lisa Marie married Michael Jackson.. Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
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Subj: RE: [IceHorses] Camping/tying >>> Well, it all depends upon the circumstances... The group I go camping with almost always has a really good caterer. >"Camping" and "caterer" ... in the same sentence...? Oh HOW do you rough and tough "campers" manage to endure such primitive conditions...? :) >Karen Thomas, NC I used to be a backpacker (when I was in college and too poor to have a horse) so I get a giggle out of doing the catered camping deal. However, I have suffered and gone hungry out in the wilderness and, oddly enough, the catered camping is pretty neat. Last year I was lounging around after a hard day in the saddle (really! 18 miles form camp to ocean and back), waiting for dinner to be served, and my brother-in-law brought me a margarita, after that I had steak and shrimp, grilled veggies, rolls, potatoes and chocolate cake. Somehow much better than macandcheese with sand. :-) Penny
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my friend sylvia came and camped in my yard for a weekend once and she lived better than me. she had better coffee and better meals and curly ray started hanging out with her instead of the herd. i would look out there and she would be drinking coffee and he would be standing by her and glower at me like "whatta you want, me and my new friend are camping." Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
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The group I go camping > with almost always has a really good caterer. Breakfast is served at 7 > or so (and coffee ready long before that), jeez penny, you sound like my friend brenda. She has this big fancy rig. I camped with her once and she kept insisting I come sleep inside her fancy rig. During the nite someone who had hauled in with someone else had her horse act colicky so I told her to take my truck and trailer to take her horse home. SO the next morning we get up to ride and I had taken all my tack out but no clothes. So I rode that day on a big ride with lots of people who had never seen me before, wearing capri sleep pants with ruffles and jumping horses print in pink and blue, a tank top with no bra (at my age and weight you can only imagine, my knees were bruised) and no shoes. I bet people are still talking about "that woman from fountain with no bra..." But seriously, I always wanted to RIDE into the middle of nowhere and pack in a camp, spend the night in a little meadow with so much grass the horses would just graze free all nite thats the fantasy. The reality would be that I would wake up and my horse would be gone and have my clothes still on his back so I would have to walk back to civilization barefoot with no bra, Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
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>>> Well, it all depends upon the circumstances... The group I go camping with >>> almost always has a really good caterer. "Camping" and "caterer" ... in the same sentence...? Oh HOW do you rough and tough "campers" manage to endure such primitive conditions...? :) Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1298 - Release Date: 2/25/2008 8:45 PM
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> And I've noticed a bonding that comes from > camping with my horses. They really seem to enjoy the 24/7 "Arabs in the sheik's tent" aspect of camping. > Nancy Nancy, I had one of those, "Oh yes!" moments when I read the above. I always got a sense of being "closer" to my horses after a camping trip.I used to have a truck camper, but then down-sized to sleeping in my truck topper. (It's a nice one!) But, if the weather was nice and the bugs not too bad, my favorite thing was to sleep in a reclining lawn chair right near where my high-line and horse was. . . .Not that I slept well, mind you, but I liked being by them.I also noticed I got more verbalizations from my horse after camping with them. -- Renee M. in Michigan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1 - Release Date: 02/25/2008 12:00 AM
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And > did I mention the caterer? There ain't no beans and weanies! > Penny > Okay. I confess. We have a camper, an oldie but goodie and if our grandson is along, his mom sends wonderful food, including goodies that she hands us as we leave the barn, just in case we get hungry on the way. This is the result of my hating to cook. I raised a daughter who is an amazing and inventive cook. Self preservation, I suspect. She does not ride. Nancy
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>I sorta feel like camping is miserable for horses and people. A lousy >nite tied to a trailer or high line and then a wonderful ride in a new >beautiful place the next day. My horses seem ok as long as there is a >bottomless hay bag... >Janice -- Well, it all depends upon the circumstances... The group I go camping with almost always has a really good caterer. Breakfast is served at 7 or so (and coffee ready long before that), the fixings for lunch laid out, for us to pick out what we want and pack a lunch for our ride. Dinner ready in the evening when the riders are all back. I sleep on a very comfy air mattress in the nose of my gooseneck, but most of my friends have campers or LQ. Horses are high tied, high lined, or in a pen, rarely tied directly to a trailer. Drifa gets as much hay as she wants (or otherwise I suffer, she is very inventive about letting me know when she is out). And, of course, very fun places to ride. And did I mention the caterer? There ain't no beans and weanies! Penny
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>> I am much more impressed than when I hear people who "camp" in RV's or living quarter horse-trailers tell me that their horses are just peachy-keen-happy standing tied to the trailer all night, for several nights on end I camp in an RV and my ponies are either tied to a Hi-Tie or on a Picket Line. And ...YES...they are peachy-keen-happy standing tied to the trailer all night, for several nights on end. Both of these options give them plently of "moving room". You can see photos of my set up at http://tinyurl.com/3ye2fm >>If I'm going to ask my horses to haul my butt around all day, AND to give up their comfortable pasture at night, the least I can do is give up my warm comfy bed, so we really CAN bond a little :) Mine do get that...tied to a trailer, Hi-Tie or on a picket line! Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
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A lousy nite tied to a trailer or high line and then a wonderful ride in a new beautiful place the next day. My horses seem ok as long as there is a bottomless hay bag... That's it, Janice, exactly. And I've noticed a bonding that comes from camping with my horses. They really seem to enjoy the 24/7 "Arabs in the sheik's tent" aspect of camping. Now, when I hear THOSE points of view, I am much more impressed than when I hear people who "camp" in RV's or living quarter horse-trailers tell me that their horses are just peachy-keen-happy standing tied to the trailer all night, for several nights on end. When we used to camp, we camped in a tent. I enjoyed it immensely, and I'd do it again...although probably not with horses. That kind of camping is a lot of work, packing everything up each trip, carrying in all of your supplies, cooking all your food, and hoping the weather cooperates so you're not too hot, not too cold and don't get soaked. If I'm going to ask my horses to haul my butt around all day, AND to give up their comfortable pasture at night, the least I can do is give up my warm comfy bed, so we really CAN bond a little :) Karen Thomas, NC
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--- Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My gosh he is incredibly beautiful!! What is his > breed again?? Is he > gaited?? He looks spanish origin... Hi Janice: Yes, my Kiff was a gorgeous boy. I bought him as a 2yr old and could just tell he was something special at that time. He didn't look like that when I bought him, however. He was thin and rangy and not very well cared for when I found him. I knew he was a diamond in the rough. I have no idea what breed he was and nobody else would have either. He was not gaited but I would also say he was spanish by the look of him. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
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--- Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What a beautiful horse and a grand adventure. What > does "downrange" mean? Hi Nancy: I am sorry for not explaining but we lived down there so long and that is what everybody called it. When the rockets are shot off from the Cape (FL) they usually travel "downrange" where the radar sites pick them up (tracking). That is what I did (my job), track and identify. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
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What a beautiful horse and a grand adventure. What does "downrange" mean? It's nagging at the back of my mind. I think I've read that expression somewhere, but it escapes me. Nancy
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A lousy nite tied to a trailer or high line and then a wonderful ride in a new > beautiful place the next day. My horses seem ok as long as there is a > bottomless hay bag... That's it, Janice, exactly. And I've noticed a bonding that comes from camping with my horses. They really seem to enjoy the 24/7 "Arabs in the sheik's tent" aspect of camping. Nancy
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My gosh he is incredibly beautiful!! What is his breed again?? Is he gaited?? He looks spanish origin... Janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
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I sorta feel like camping is miserable for horses and people. If you are like me, sleeping in a cheap walmart tent or the front seat of my pickup truck with my horse tied right outside looking all grumpy and put upon. But I dont go camping for the good nights sleep. Or the wonderful sleeping conditions. I go and endure the bad nights rest so that we can ride somewhere beautiful that we ordinarily dont get to go to. And I feel like thats the way it is for my horse too. A lousy nite tied to a trailer or high line and then a wonderful ride in a new beautiful place the next day. My horses seem ok as long as there is a bottomless hay bag... Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
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> The concensus is that there is no absolutely safe way to secure horses > overnight, Let's face it - if we wanted to be 100% safe, we wouldn't be in horses. You just have to minimize your risks as much as possible and then go on and have fun. As we all know, you can never make horses 100% safe even if you elave them in the pasture all the time. -- Laree in NC Doppa & Mura Simon, Sadie and Sam (the "S" gang) "Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to the horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them." - William Farley
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> pretty awesome, a ground tie system where they have > a long rope > threaded through a 25-50 ft length of water hose > swiveling from a > stake driven deep in the ground. They just graze > all day, lay down > etc, and surely they must get tangled in it at > first? Hi Janice: I have lived and worked downrange on an island called Antigua in the Carribean. I was fresh out of college at 21 yrs old and had been horse deprive all of my young life. My parents would not let me have a horse as long as I lived under their roof. Well, as soon as I found out there were horses on Antigua there was nobody to stop me. My first horse was a mare less than 2 yrs old picked out of a herd running fairly free on the island. She had never had a rope on her as I could tell when they roped her for me. Don't ask me how I got her back to the base because it was too long ago. I did get her there somehow with just a rope around her neck and no she was not trained to lead. I must have fashioned a sort of halter with the rope around her muzzle. There were no stalls to keep her or corral for that matter. All sorts of animals roamed where ever they wished most of the time. The cows (most anyway) had a long chain they were dragging. If a car ran into one and caused damage, if they could determine who the owner of the cow was, they would reply that the cow pulled up the stake in the ground and got loose. That was how they kept their animals. I did too. You just kept your horse "staked out" and every few days you would move it to a new patch of grass. I hauled water in the back of my Datsun car. Yes, there was a period of time of getting used to the rope. The rope didn't have a hose on it but that is a very good idea. She was just my first. I ended up buying another mare and then a stallion and then had foals and I was in hog heaven. They got used to being tied and also learned how to scratch their backs with the rope. It really did not seem like a bad way to keep them to me at the time. I did get permission after a few years to bring them on the base. I had to pick up the poop and place it around the palm trees (like mulch) and I did so gladly. We did have occasional hurricane scares and I always got permission to let my horses loose within the chain linked transmitter site. They also got occasional weekend stays within our radar yard. It was a good life for me. The folks that lived in the barracks that looked out over my horses always said it made them feel like they were somewhere else. I met my husband there. He has always told me he had watched me out his window pushing a wheelborrow everyday and he knew I would be a good worker. Ha Ha. Well, that is my story on a horse on a rope. Denise Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
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>>>The horses can lie down, eat, drink, poop and even roll, > although that > scares me. The rolling is what bothers me. I go on a ladies week long camp out every year where many of the ladies high tie to tree branches. Twice we've had horses get a rear leg tangled in the rope while rolling and scrooching around -- luckily most everyone has a sharp safety knife handy even in the middle of the night. The mechanical high ties would be less prone to rope stretching . . . but I still use my trailer tying method I learned competing in CTR. Lynn Kinsky, Santa Ynez, CA http://www.silcom.com/~lkinsky/
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> > Are the horses able to lie down with their Hi-ties? Did you do > anything special (other than tying basics) to help the horses learn to > camp safely on their Hi-Ties? Yes. The horses can lie down, eat, drink, poop and even roll, although that scares me. Hunter has figured our just how far he can walk around and will stretch that bungee goody to the max. I'm considering switching to a non-stretchy attachment but I would have to pre-teach since he's used to being able to stretch his tether. Yes, we always practice tying at home before going camping, beginning with short stretches and then lengthening the time. And your horse would have to be safe to tie. Period. I had an appaloosa mare once that never really did stand tied safely - for 22 years. She would not have been safe on the Hi-tie. Nancy
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I LOVE my Hi-Tie !! Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
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> > Here are Smoke and Hunter on their Hi-ties. Tali is tied the same way on > the other side of the trailer. Nancy, Thanks for the picture. I have not camped with horses since I was a small child and I remember none of the details other than that I had fun. I find the idea both intriguing and exhausting. I camp every summer with four dogs and a husband and sometimes that is more than I can enjoy! I have a four year old gelding (non icelandic) that I am just now starting under saddle and I dream about doing LD with him. My husband is also a rock climber and he likes to travel to climb during the summer and I think it would be great fun to go with him and bring my boy to ride while he climbs. Are the horses able to lie down with their Hi-ties? Did you do anything special (other than tying basics) to help the horses learn to camp safely on their Hi-Ties? Sarah in MT
