RE: [IceHorses] High Tensile Fencing
Hi Renee >>Yes, the Centaur is 5 inches wide with 3 strains of wire inside a hard plastic cover.? It is extremely safe.? Yes we also like the Centaur fencing and have also used a similar product with just two wires and 4" wide but less expensive. It has worked well. Robyn
Re: [IceHorses] High Tensile Fencing
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They like to run > and buck and of course fart... > > This requires room... > I have always wondered if the farting is done purposely. V
Re: [IceHorses] High Tensile Fencing
We have high tensile wiring here and we've never had any problems (touching toe to wooden desk). However, whenever we've put a new horse in the pasture I always go around and put orange flag tape on the wires between each fence post. Takes a few hours, but is very effective. Our smallest pasture is about two acres and if we have a new horse, only one other horse will go in with the new one. They like to run and buck and of course fart... This requires room... Wanda -- Thoughts become things...
Re: [IceHorses] High Tensile Fencing
Yes, the Centaur is 5 inches wide with 3 strains of wire inside a hard plastic cover.? It is extremely safe.? I have had horses run straight into it without any injuries.? It is a little cheaper than the Flex fence which is very similar with only a few modifications.? I truly love this type fence.? We put up the 4? rail system. ?? Renee
Re: [IceHorses] High Tensile Fencing
On Mon, 19 May 2008 16:42:26 -0400, you wrote: >So what kind of fence is safe? I think ours is pretty safe - we have stone banks about 4 feet high, planted with hawthorn and blackthorn along the top, protected by a 2-strand bare wire (but not high-tensile - it will break if enough force is exerted, without causing injury) electric fence, mains powered but with battery back up. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk ---
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Hi Anneliese >>Why barbed wire? Because our pastures a huge and we fence through the woods and use trees as fence posts. I would agree with you about size of pasture - we have also used barbed wire as perimeter fencing for 30+years with Icelandics with only one incident which was minor. We tried having smooth wired fences and the horses loved it because they could just put their heads through. We like the look of the rail or plank fences around the pastures close to the house. Robyn Hood
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In a message dated 5/19/2008 4:43:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So what kind of fence is safe? I love my Flex and Centaur fence. I initially put up the 5 inch wide Centaur fence when I first moved here and last year added another pasture in Flex fencing(very similar but improved). I believe this is the safest fence on the market. My husband slid the tractor into the new fence one day after it was put up and it did not hurt it at all. Renee **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301)
Re: [IceHorses] High Tensile Fencing
On the question of fence safety I think that many people keep their horses in pastures and paddocks that are too small. I feel that horses should be able to run and should be able to get away from each-other if necessary. We have some wooden plank fences but most of our fences are actually the badly decried barbed wire. Why barbed wire? Because our pastures a huge and we fence through the woods and use trees as fence posts. Anything else would be cost-prohibitive in our case. And believe it or not: in all our years of having Icelandic horses (25) and with all the horses we have had (48 was highest number at one point) we have NEVER had a single fence injury. The pastures are large enough, so no one is trying to get out. Also, we rotate the horses through the pastures so they can explore and don't get bored so they are not even interested in getting out. Anneliese
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Hi Kim >So what kind of fence is safe? Good question Kim, I guess it all seems safe until you get a horse badly injured?? We use a combination of wooden rails, planks, some of the vinyl flat fencing but we use electric fence on the inside of it so they can't eat through it. We have some barbed wire around the outside perimeter of our pasture but they don't stay in those pasture, just go out for a few hours each day for grazing. We also have one line of fence that is 5 strands of the plastic coated wire fencing with an electric braided strand on the inside. The biggest problem that I see with the high tensile is when it is in areas that are too small. I have seen it used for long narrow paddocks and I have seen two horses that went to roll near the fence, got caught in it and were cut to the bone by the wire. Our neighbor has it and he has a horse the constantly gets a foot over it but luckily the horse doesn't struggle, just stands their. I have also seen a horse get their shoe caught in it, luckily it wasn't electrified and they cut the fence. Robyn Hood
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On 5/19/08, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From Karen > > I just saw my 3rd degloving injury last night from a high tensile steel > fence - one of Sarah's beloved Lipizzaner mares that was imported from the > Spanish Riding School. > So what kind of fence is safe? I've heard of this kind of injury before. Right before I moved the horses about a year ago, they were in this kind of fence, two horses were standing by the fence in another field and were killed by lightening. I think that maybe the lightening traveled the fence and got them. We know barbed wire isn't good, I kept my horses at a rental house with some barbed wire, I just didn't have the money to fix someone else's fence and the mule got a bad cut, but a lucky one, where it just got flesh and she healed fine. I would think that electric tape is safer, as long as it's kept up, kept tight, and the electric doesn't go out. Mine will tear the thing down if the current goes out, then they could get tangled. Mesh isn't so good, if it's big enough to put a foot through. It seems to me that no fence is totally safe, but hopefully the possible injuries won't be that bad. I don't even think a vinyl fence would be good for my guys, the mules are nuts and would probably break it and get out, in fact Snorri jumped through one once, when he was really young. So they don't get hurt by the fence, but they might end up out in the road. What I intend to do with the terrible fence mine are in now, not really good in some spots, is put up electric tape on the inside to keep them off the fence, but I like that there is a real fence behind the tape, in case the current does go out. Kim
Re: [IceHorses] High Tensile Fencing
Is this the same as Centaur high tensile? I believe Centaur is a wide piece of plastic with a wire running down the middle, and it stretches. I am replacing some of my fences and need to go cheap, have something that will hold my stallions, and be safe. I know, a lot to ask. Janet Caliente, California
[IceHorses] High Tensile Fencing
>From Karen I just saw my 3rd degloving injury last night from a high tensile steel fence - one of Sarah's beloved Lipizzaner mares that was imported from the Spanish Riding School. The first 2 were several years ago at a Paint breeding farm. 'How' it happened was not known as the horses were found out in the field bleeding severely. This time Sarah's husband saw it happen - the mare was rolling and caught one hindleg under the fence. She pulled it back under the fence, rubbed against the steel and her skin and all the fascia were peeled down the cannon bone from the hock almost to the fetlock. Sarah and I were in the indoor and ran out as soon as we heard the mare literally scream (sent chills down your spine). We found ourselves looking at tendons and muscle over her cannon bone. We got her into the indoor and hosed the dirt off as best we could. Then I pushed the skin and fascia back up where it belonged and held manual pressure to stop the bleeding while Sarah ran to call the vet. He was on another call so was going to be delayed about a half an hour. We fashioned a huge pressure dressing to keep the bleeding under control. Unfortunately I had to leave before the vet got there so do not know how many stitches it took to close this wound. This fencing was on the farm when Sarah bought it. She didn't like it and has been replacing it with electrobraid fencing as she's had the money and time. I am so glad I did not put this type of fencing up! The NY Dept of Ag had grants for horse farms for this type of fencing, which is why alot of people put it up. Karen _ David responded: I had a friend several years ago that had that same type of fencing. He had a saddlebred mare that was out to pasture along with several other saddlebreds. The mare was standing along side the high tensiled fence grazing. A horse fly bit her under her belly. She kicked out and her leg went between the stands of wire. When she retracted the leg, the fencing felayed all the way to the bone, from the top of the inner thigh down to the ankle. It took several hundred stitches. For weeks they wrapped and unwrapped the leg daily. Several weeks later, the vet told them, he thought the leg was doing well enough to leave the bandage off one night. Mistake. That night the horse chewed the area so bad, the next day they had to put her down. There was no saving her. Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
