Re: [IceHorses] House Guest

2007-08-01 Thread Janice McDonald
judy,

i want to do this...  when you are getting her to smile are you
actually tickling or touching her lip or just pointing so she lifts
her head...  she reminds me of nasi.  Her relatives arent from
colorado are they??  Gosh she is beautiful.
Janice--
yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] House Guest

2007-07-31 Thread Judy Ryder

> Cute!  From what I can see of her face she has a calm, pleasant eyeshe
> looks so sweet.


While I'm not really in a position to take any additional horses, when I saw
her, and she was brought to me, she was not at all worried about the walker
or the cast.  She reached out to sniff them, as Charm does with things she
doesn't know, so I thought I might be able to handle her OK for the time
being.

I did a little clicker with her today working on a "smile".  The camera 
was not in the right place to get a good video, but at least it's something:

http://iceryder.net/videochachasmile.html


Judy
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Re: [IceHorses] House Guest

2007-07-31 Thread Virginia Tupper


>From: "Judy Ryder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


>
>I put a few braids in her hair, at the top of her mane, since that part
>tends to flip onto the top of her head.


Cute!  From what I can see of her face she has a calm, pleasant eyeshe 
looks so sweet.
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RE: [IceHorses] House Guest

2007-07-31 Thread Virginia Tupper


>From: "Judy Ryder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>This little black and white pinto mare is visiting us for a month or so.


Aww, I love her!!
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Re: [IceHorses] House Guest

2007-07-30 Thread Anna Hopkins
On 7/30/07, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> this is tivar when i'm putting on his fly mask:

Gloi is very cooperative with his fly mask as long as you did not put
it on too tight the day before.  Once I got the right amount of
looseness he is very cooperative.  You would think it is way too
loose.  If some one puts it on too tight, he will take it off and
won't let you put it on the next day.

Anna


RE: [IceHorses] House Guest

2007-07-30 Thread Karen Thomas
 then when i'm done and totally convinced he just hates my guts I will say 
 good boy and give him a pet and walk away and he will actually follow me
everywhere like a dog.  I swear he would even follow me into the house.  
explain that!  he is a big mystery.


Tivar really does seem to talk with his ears, maybe more than any horse I've 
ever met.  It helped me to start decoding him when I began to pay attention to 
"degrees of ears back".  I don't think he's usually really upset unless his 
ears are flat back against his head.  He seems to put them "sort of back" when 
he's just wary, or maybe even thinking about stuff, and not particularly upset. 
 I eventually began looking more at his neck and head for tale-tell signs of 
tension, because he really will tense his neck and raise his head when he's not 
happy.   Have you noticed his neck and head position during these times - I 
think it might help to add up all the clues from his whole body, but you've 
probably already figured that out.  


Karen Thomas, NC







RE: [IceHorses] House Guest

2007-07-30 Thread Robyn Hood
Hi Judy
>>>Very good example of breaking it down.  Nicki, who owns Fridur, came up
with the "chunk it down" expression :-).

We have used the express "chunk it down" for about 20 years so I think it
came from lots of sources.

Robyn

Icelandic Horse Farm 
Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty
Vernon BC Canada
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Re: [IceHorses] House Guest

2007-07-30 Thread Judy Ryder


> One of the most valuable, IMO, about the clicker is that it teaches people
> to have patience and to break down an exercise into smaller parts. 
> Instead
> of escalating pressure, it does the opposite, and makes it less.

Thanks, Robyn, for mentioning this.


> my son and his girlfriend's dog who was very adverse to a harness,
> broke it into several lessons, taking away the pressure of having to get 
> the
> harness on.  At first I just used it as a target, and then on the floor 
> and
> raised the criteria to having him place a foot into it.

Very good example of breaking it down.  Nicki, who owns Fridur, came up with 
the "chunk it down" expression :-).


Judy
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Re: [IceHorses] House Guest

2007-07-30 Thread Janice McDonald
this is tivar when i'm putting on his fly mask:

tries to use it as a face scratcher, shoving me half way around the
yard, me wrestling it around, then I get aggravated and give his
shoulder a whack, he immediately stands nicely and calm, head sorta
down, sorta contrite, then I go to put it on he lays his ears flat so
I can't get them up inside the little ear thingies.  I have a few
times actually shoved up a wad of forelock hair into the ear thingie
thinking it was his ear.  if i take too long at this point he will
start walking off like "oh for..."  like he gave me a half minute, if
i cant get a fly mask on in a half minute then i dont deserve his
time, his time is so valuable you know.  If he needs ointment where
he's rubbed on something he will fight it like he suspects I am trying
to shove deadly arsentic up his nostril or something, but if I start
petting his forehead real hard, sorta scrubbing on it, he will stand
there all day for that.  so you have to scrub his face with one hand
while smearing ointment with the other, getting ointment all over
yourself.  then there is always that window where he will be good and
give me a chance to get it done so I will leave him alone.  then when
i'm done and totally convinced he just hates my guts I will say good
boy and give him a pet and walk away and he will actually follow me
everywhere like a dog.  I swear he would even follow me into the
house.  explain that!  he is a big mystery.
Janice
-- 
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Re: [IceHorses] House Guest

2007-07-30 Thread Judy Ryder



> she is just too cool for school Judy :)


Ha!  I think she'll be in "school" for a while :-)

I did get a fly mask on her face today, so that's good.


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Re: [IceHorses] House Guest

2007-07-30 Thread Lorraine

--- Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This little black and white pinto mare is visiting
> us for a month or so.
> 
> 
Oh my gosh how beautiful.

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Re: [IceHorses] House Guest

2007-07-30 Thread Janice McDonald
she is just too cool for school Judy :)
Janice
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RE: [IceHorses] House Guest

2007-07-30 Thread Robyn Hood
Hi Judy
>>> Here's a little video (maybe boring to watch).  The criteria is, of
course, very loose for her since it's her first time.

Nice videos showing the steps.

One of the most valuable, IMO, about the clicker is that it teaches people
to have patience and to break down an exercise into smaller parts.  Instead
of escalating pressure, it does the opposite, and makes it less.  I have
used the clicker for the halter as well and it carried with the horses
forever, even years after and with a variety of people.  I also used it with
my son and his girlfriend's dog who was very adverse to a harness, collar
anything that was put on him.  He is very small - pom-Chihuahua cross.  I
broke it into several lessons, taking away the pressure of having to get the
harness on.  At first I just used it as a target, and then on the floor and
raised the criteria to having him place a foot into it.  It has worked
really well so he no longer runs when he sees the harness.

I also had done some clicker for the halter with a rather reactive mare.
When we needed to sedate her she was incredibly reactive to the needle
(unusual IME for Icelandics),  after trying a variety of things
unsuccessfully I said I would like to try the clicker.  Within less than 2
minutes the mare was quietly sedated - I hadn't done any clicker training
with this mare for over a year and yet she immediately remembered the
process.

Robyn

Icelandic Horse Farm 
Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty
Vernon BC Canada
www.icefarm.com
 


  

 

 
  



Re: [IceHorses] House Guest

2007-07-29 Thread Judy Ryder


> She is just lovely.
>
> Our little house guest, a POA gelding, left the other day after a 10 
> mongth
> visit.  The girls (Tosca and Yrsa)  and I all missed him more than we
> thought we might.


They all put a mark on your heart, don't they?

The little girl has some eye junk, and cockleburs in her mane, so she got 
her first clicker training lesson today, starting with the halter.  Then I put 
some SWAT around her eyes, and got the burrs out.

Here's a little video (maybe boring to watch).  The criteria is, of course, 
very loose for her since it's her first time.

http://iceryder.net/videoclickerpinto.html

She was OK to halter... just OK... but I want more than OK, I want her to 
*want* the halter and to be looking forward to seeing it!


Judy
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Re: [IceHorses] House Guest

2007-07-29 Thread Nancy Sturm
She is just lovely.

Our little house guest, a POA gelding, left the other day after a 10 mongth
visit.  The girls (Tosca and Yrsa)  and I all missed him more than we
thought we might.

Nancy