[IceHorses] Re: Mixing methods
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "SHERREL LEININGER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I am hesitant to try nasi > > or Tivar with CT because they are so nippy and treat hounding and seem > > to lose their freaking minds anytime they see a TREAT A TREAT OH MY > > GOD A TREAT and forget everything else. > > They (horses) usually catch on that they have to work for the treat. CT > will usually cure the nipper or the one crazy-for-treats horse. Mugging is > fairly quickly cured with the clicker. > I agree, my mule was very nippy, but has learned to stand patiently for treats, or smile trying to induce me to give her a treat, she gets that she has to do something besides grab to get a treat. Kim
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Mixing methods
I am hesitant to try nasi > or Tivar with CT because they are so nippy and treat hounding and seem > to lose their freaking minds anytime they see a TREAT A TREAT OH MY > GOD A TREAT and forget everything else. They (horses) usually catch on that they have to work for the treat. CT will usually cure the nipper or the one crazy-for-treats horse. Mugging is fairly quickly cured with the clicker. Sherrel
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Mixing methods
I have found in my LIMITED experience that some will work for one horse but not another. Traditional training does not seem to work well for Fox, he feels "pressure" when I don't think I am applying it. He had a huge breakthru turnaround when I switched to CT. Stonewall was CTd as a baby and now seems almost to insist on it. He reminds me that I am supposed to click and reward... he will respond to traditional training but its a lot slower and grudging. jaspar does not respond at all to CT. He was started the old cowboy cruel way and then with me, a more NH way but still pressure/release advance/retreat type stuff and he seems to still learn that way and be very easy to train without CT or anything else really. I am hesitant to try nasi or Tivar with CT because they are so nippy and treat hounding and seem to lose their freaking minds anytime they see a TREAT A TREAT OH MY GOD A TREAT and forget everything else. Interestingly, jaspar and the donkey seem least responsive to CT and seem least food motivated. They will both walk away from a feed bucket if they are full. Traveller freaks out from too much pressure and if I were allowed to train him I would CT, but he is my husbands horse and is "he who must not ever have hurt feelings in any way" so he is a huge nice untrained horse, lucky for us. I have learned some things from clinton. I like his flexing thing. I hate some of his stuff, like the chainsaw in the roundpen thing... janice -- yipie tie yie yo
[IceHorses] Re: Mixing methods
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, pippa258 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Virginia Tupper wrote: > > When I think conditioning I think robotic. > > The games in PNH, with phases, etc., they seem to be just as much > > 'conditioning' in its own way. > > > > But--I'm only a newbie in everything and I could change my views after > > more experience. > > > > Whatever works for my horses is what I'll use--as long as it creates a > > healthy relationship. > I think newbies ask the best questions and make people think! > > I think Clinton Anderson's horses look like robots. They seem like > automatons that can do amazing things with just a twitch of the rein but > there is nothing going on behind their eyes. That is a very good point > that the phases are like conditioning too... > > Trish > I agree. I watched his show a few times on RFDTV. I don't understand why he is considered a natural horseman. He's clearly not. :)
