RE: [IceHorses] Re: What Gait / Show Video 1
>>> Youtube compresses too much! I hate to sound so picky - it's nice that we have it. Sorry! Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] Re: What Gait / Show Video 1
> I can't see that. I know you were there, and you have the advantage of > seeing the uncompressed video, so I'll take your word for it, but I can't > see it on the YouTube version. Youtube compresses too much! I'll try to grab some stills. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Re: What Gait / Show Video 1
> Ah - that is so much more clear slowed down. Don't laugh you guys, but is > the mule more lateral and the white horse more diagonal? Does that make > the > mule doing a stepping pace? Help me, please. Pretty good on analyzing! This may be helpful: read the same thread on the gaitedhorse list: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/GaitedHorse/message/196738 Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
RE: [IceHorses] Re: What Gait / Show Video 1
The mule is more toward pace (the laterals working more together), maybe stepping pace, the palimino is more toward foxtrot (the diagonals closer together), it was hard because every time I paused the palimino, it was hard to see the diagonal, and the video wouldn't move frame to frame, without skipping ahead a lot into a different sequence. I see the same thing with my own videos when I post them to You Tube - and I can see clearly what the horses are doing on my own PC, with the uncompressed video. Do most digital cameras have the "continuous mode" for catching a series of still pictures now? Both of ours do, but they are both less than a year old. I really find the uncompressed video helpful, but honestly, the You Tube video not so much. I guess I'm expecting too much - it's nice to have You Tube for some things, but I'm not sure it's so helpful for detailed gait analysis. Or maybe it's just my old eyes... Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [IceHorses] Re: What Gait / Show Video 1
It's hard because each horse is the same color all over, and the images are small, so that it's hard to recognize which legs are which, but try to look at the laterals for the mule, and the diagonals for the palomino. Are they working more closely together? I can't see that. I know you were there, and you have the advantage of seeing the uncompressed video, so I'll take your word for it, but I can't see it on the YouTube version. It looks like the pick up to me is closer between the lateral pairs. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[IceHorses] Re: What Gait / Show Video 1
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Judy Ryder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> http://iceryder.net/videogaitshowdm.html > >> > > I have a different question, where was this video taken? Do you know? > > You should recognize it: Del Mar! > At first I thought the mountains looked like Mission Valley:) I was pretty sure there wasn't a stable there (not anymore anyway, one summer I kept my pony at the last stable in Mission Valley, I think it was demolished after that summer, it was next to the golf club down there, across the freeway from Presidio Park, we took the horses swimming in the river) I then realized it must be Del Mar. > > Actually the mule and horse look like their feeting are hitting the > > ground in the same sequence to me. I think it looks so different > > because the mule has really flat action, and the horse has higher > > action on all legs. > > It's hard because each horse is the same color all over, and the images are > small, so that it's hard to recognize which legs are which, but try to look > at the laterals for the mule, and the diagonals for the palomino. Are they > working more closely together? > The mule is more toward pace (the laterals working more together), maybe stepping pace, the palimino is more toward foxtrot (the diagonals closer together), it was hard because every time I paused the palimino, it was hard to see the diagonal, and the video wouldn't move frame to frame, without skipping ahead a lot into a different sequence. Kim
Re: [IceHorses] Re: What Gait / Show Video 1
>> http://iceryder.net/videogaitshowdm.html >> > I have a different question, where was this video taken? Do you know? You should recognize it: Del Mar! > Actually the mule and horse look like their feeting are hitting the > ground in the same sequence to me. I think it looks so different > because the mule has really flat action, and the horse has higher > action on all legs. I believe that the mule is doing a slightly lateral flatwalk, and the palomino horse is foxtrotting. It's hard because each horse is the same color all over, and the images are small, so that it's hard to recognize which legs are which, but try to look at the laterals for the mule, and the diagonals for the palomino. Are they working more closely together? Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
[IceHorses] Re: What Gait / Show Video 1
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Judy Ryder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I added "slo-mo" to this page; look at the second video. > > I put the wrong URL; here's the correct one: > > http://iceryder.net/videogaitshowdm.html > > Sorry! The wrong page got a zillion hits today! > I have a different question, where was this video taken? Do you know? Actually the mule and horse look like their feeting are hitting the ground in the same sequence to me. I think it looks so different because the mule has really flat action, and the horse has higher action on all legs. Kim
RE: [IceHorses] Re: What Gait / Show Video 1
>>> http://iceryder.net/videogaitshowdm.html Well, that looks different in slow motion! I wouldn't even dare guess about the mule the first time. The mule looks like she/he starts off pretty pacey, but breaks it up closer to four-beat by the end - maybe moving almost to saddle rack, at least into step pace...? And the palomino doesn't look as lateral as I first thought. If it's step-pace, it's at least getting pretty close to saddle rack. I think I'd call it saddle rack in fact. Definition of saddle rack is that the lateral pairs pick up about the same time, but set down on an even four-beat timing. Is that what others see? I admit it's a LOT easier with my own horses, because I know how they feel! Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] Re: What Gait / Show Video 1
Ah - that is so much more clear slowed down. Don't laugh you guys, but is the mule more lateral and the white horse more diagonal? Does that make the mule doing a stepping pace? Help me, please. nancy
[IceHorses] Re: What Gait / Show Video 1
> I added "slo-mo" to this page; look at the second video. I put the wrong URL; here's the correct one: http://iceryder.net/videogaitshowdm.html Sorry! The wrong page got a zillion hits today! Judy
[IceHorses] Re: What Gait / Show Video 1
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Karen Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think you're right about the Palomino. You Tube is a nice tool, but some > resolution is lost compared to the "raw" video I can see on my own PC's, > even from the videos from my cheap little digital camera. But go out on > the same limb as you - hope our combined weight doesn't break it off the > tree! :) > > I had the same problem, but I'm going to take a guess at the mule and say, flat walk? Kim
