[IceHorses] Re: sensation hybrid ? for Karen
Karen: yours has the standard dressage flap FOR A HYBRID. The only flaps you can order for the Hybrid are Hybrid Dressage Flap or Hybrid/English Trail Flap. I stand corrected made a BIG typo on the Western info (never should multi task while doing e-mails)base length IS the same as all the other models.. it's the flexible skirt that extends it 4. The flexible skirt is very soft, so it's only visually a longer look. Mu guys did not mind it at all, I just prefer the English Trail for my body comfort. Your hot off the presses Dressage Model may well be a bit shorter than what I have seen out here/ what Dana herself measured if it is you're very lucky to have it because Icey's as we all know can have a shorter back length to deal with . That particular saddle could really come in handy with all the different backs you have at your place. If you ever want to sell it, I have several smaller clients on the wait list for a shorter Sensation for their very short backed horses their smaller size. I sold both of mine that were demos because I need the XL seat versatility for my larger demo humans. If smaller people try them, I just include the bolsters!! Laree has one from the same vintage...care to weigh in on your base length Laree?? It would be interesting just to compare! Kaaren
Re: [IceHorses] Re: sensation hybrid ? for Karen
Laree has one from the same vintage...care to weigh in on your base length Laree?? It would be interesting just to compare! Kaaren - I have nothing here to compare mine to - it fits me well (and I'm not small) and fits both the horses here well, so I never compared it to any others - I just enjoy it :-)) -- Laree in NC Doppa Mura Simon, Sadie and Sam (the S gang) Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to the horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them. - William Farley
[IceHorses] Re: sensation hybrid ? for Karen
Just to clarify, the XL (extra long seat ) seat does not change the base length of the Hybrid or any other Sensation saddle. The cantle is just moved back 1 on the base the dressage cantle is not as wrap around or deep as the standard Hybrid cantle so it is more roomy/less confining than the standard Hybrid cantle for the rider. Nothing changes for the horse. Karen has 2 Hybrids with the dressage flap XL seat with dressage cantle. Janice MacDonald has a Hybrid with dressage flap st andard Hybrid cantle. I think I am the only dealer that has demo models in the Hybrid with English Trail flap/XL seat dressage cantle Hybrid's with dressage flap/ XL seat with dressage cantle. They are my best sellers of all the models so far. The first few off the presses dressage Sensations were about 3/4 - 1 shorter in the base for the horse than the then standard English Trails. Dressage models do ride a bit smaller for the rider as well because of the deeper pommel deeper cantle in that model. The slightly shorter base length occured in just these first few models. Since then all the exchangeable parts for the Sensation are die cut at the manufacturers so base lengths/all parts are about the same. All that being said, humans are making them leather handles/stretchs differently from hide to hide so there are still some very slight variations from saddle to saddle . The Western Sensation is the only model out right now that has a longer base length for the horse of about 4. Kaaren
RE: [IceHorses] Re: sensation hybrid ? for Karen
The first few off the presses dressage Sensations were about 3/4 - 1 shorter in the base for the horse than the then standard English Trails. I'll try to get the measurements tomorrow, but my dressage model is more than 1 shorter than my Hybrids. Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.5/1148 - Release Date: 11/23/2007 7:39 PM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [IceHorses] Re: sensation hybrid ? for Karen
The Western Sensation is the only model out right now that has a longer base length for the horse of about 4. From the pictures, I'm not sure I'd consider the Western Sensation to have a base of 4 longer than the other Sensation models. The extra length on the western model appears more like a skirt on a treed western saddle than what I'd consider a base on an English type saddle, which may or may not be relevant to how the saddle fits the horse. A skirt is mostly for looks, and if it's soft, it doesn't really matter too much how long it is. This sounds picky maybe, but I've wondered if a western Sensation might actually work better on Melnir, because it doesn't have the wide flaps down the side, even though the base/skirt of the saddle is longer. I just can't be sure what dimension makes the Hybrid walk back a little on him. But... I don't need another saddle - the dressage works fine. :) Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.5/1148 - Release Date: 11/23/2007 7:39 PM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [IceHorses] Re: sensation hybrid ? for Karen
Karen has 2 Hybrids with the dressage flap XL seat with dressage cantle. I just noticed this, Kaaren. The only thing different about my Hybrids from the standard models is that they have the dressage cantles with the extended seats. They don't have the same flaps as my dressage saddle. Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.5/1148 - Release Date: 11/23/2007 7:39 PM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
