Re: [IceHorses] Smooth horses - please don't just enjoy the ride!

2007-06-27 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 6/25/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
 What I can see from the videos is that she
> and Alex look relaxed and happy together, and that's certainly a good sign.
>


Alex and Gat have a great relationship.  Gat will always trot for
Alex, occasionally break into the foxtrot (if that's what it is) but
for me she's more pacey--could be my weight, where I sit, or just that
I'm an adult and she's more wary/nervous of adults than kids.
V


RE: [IceHorses] Smooth horses - please don't just enjoy the ride!

2007-06-25 Thread Karen Thomas
 That makes sense.  What confuses me though is, if Gat consistently
offers some form of pace, doesn't that mean she prefers to do it or is
conformed to do it?  Is pace to be avoided no matter what?

I think that's the $64,000 question.  Personally, I think some horses are so
wired and/or conformed for pace that trying to force them to trot is as bad
as trying to force a three-gaited horse to pace.  That's the delicate
question that is SOOO hard - at what point are we "forcing" as opposed to
"encouraging"?   I don't think many of us would like the idea of forcing a
horse to gait - but defining force is very subjective, and I imagine each of
us has a slightly different definition of where that point is.

I don't get the feeling that you have forced Gat to do any gaits that she
can't do...and that encouraging her to trot a little - or at least foxtrot a
little - is only encouraging her to use some muscles she doesn't use often.
I don't know though - I can't see you or Alex or her in person, so you have
to think about that yourself.  What I can see from the videos is that she
and Alex look relaxed and happy together, and that's certainly a good sign.

Karen Thomas
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Re: [IceHorses] Smooth horses - please don't just enjoy the ride!

2007-06-25 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 6/25/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Bottom line: Ignorance may be bliss, at least for the rider, but it's often
> not so blissful for the horses...

That makes sense.  What confuses me though is, if Gat consistently
offers some form of pace, doesn't that mean she prefers to do it or is
conformed to do it?  Is pace to be avoided no matter what?

V


[IceHorses] Smooth horses - please don't just enjoy the ride!

2007-06-25 Thread Karen Thomas
Please, think about this.

I bought my Big Mac for the wrong reasons in 1988.  I felt sorry for him.  I
had barely started riding lessons when I bought him to free him from the
stall he lived in 24x7.  He was a padded Big Lick horse, one of a handful in
the big self-care boarding barn where Emily and I were taking lessons on
some three-gaited horses. I couldn't stand to see him, not quite five,
confined to that stall all day.  He was so personable - he'd nod and shake
his head as anyone passed by, totally craving attention.  So I inquired,
found out he was for sale.  I tried him, leased him for a trial and a month
later I bought him.  The day I wrote the check, I called a farrier out to
start taking the pads off and trimming the feet down.  (It's too dramatic to
do it all at once - it has to be done gradually.)

So, I had no choice about his feet during the trial period.  He wasn't mine,
so I couldn't trim him down.  Mac was just shown on a local-regional level,
so I don't think he was ever chemically sored - but the long toes and pads
were bad enough.

Why do you think the practices of letting the feet grow long started?
Because it can make the horse wonderfully smooth to ride!  Mac was amazingly
smooth.  But that is no excuse!  I could have chosen to ignore the pads and
just enjoy my comfortable-to-ride but padded horse.  Would that have been
right?  Heavens no!

There are many cases less dramatic than Big Lick horses.  I just wrote up
two others: Loftur's back pain, and Skjoni's saddle fit.  Oh yeah, there was
Sina's initial paciness due to saddle fit and my stiffness - but she was
smooth to ride too!  All of these were smooth to ride, despite the problems!
And Nancy wrote about her horse's lameness that showed up in his gaits.  You
can simply ride a smooth horse without questioning, but please, think about
it.  Even if you don't learn all the subtle difference in all of the gaits,
please start by learning some of the basics.  Your horse may be fine now,
but odd are, over the course of his life, he'll give you some clues about
his soundness via his gaits.

Bottom line: Ignorance may be bliss, at least for the rider, but it's often
not so blissful for the horses...I've learned a lot from these rehabs I've
taken in, but believe me, I don't want to take in YOUR horse as a rehab
someday in the future.


Karen Thomas, NC