Re: [IceHorses] Treeless/mounting from the ground
> > > > > I use a step too--I'm too stiff and don't want to > hurt Gat (12.2 hh) > with my flailings. One time I tried to mount Scooter from the ground and I was all over the place with my treeless. He bucked my a#% off.
Re: [IceHorses] Treeless/mounting from the ground
> if you end up on a horse, you never have anything to be > embarrassed > about regarding the process :) > You are right > --vicka > > ps. my 6'2" husband has a 13h horse. now *that* > mount is a funny sight :) > Kevin is 6' and mounts a 13.0 horse. lOL
Re: [IceHorses] Treeless/mounting from the ground
On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Lorraine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I always thought it was embarrasing to need a step to mount a 12.2 HH horse. > > I use a step too--I'm too stiff and don't want to hurt Gat (12.2 hh) with my flailings. V
Re: [IceHorses] Treeless/mounting from the ground
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 09:33:33PM -0700, Lorraine wrote: > I always thought it was embarrasing to need a step to mount a 12.2 HH horse. if you end up on a horse, you never have anything to be embarrassed about regarding the process :) --vicka ps. my 6'2" husband has a 13h horse. now *that* mount is a funny sight :)
Re: [IceHorses] Treeless/mounting from the ground
> > I always thought it was embarrasing to need a step to mount a 12.2 HH horse. > oh man you oughta try and do it around these rednecks here. I would be leading Teev to mount on a big ride and they would be grinnin oh looky she gor hersef a shetland pony. then I would drag out the mounting stool and oh my gosh it was like i was the comedy for the day. I always relished showing them up on the ride tho. Teev would get aggravated with me for the clumsy dismounts tho. But Trausti is like Jas, I can waller around up there half the day and he just stands and stands all braced so I can waller better. He figured out if he braces the wallering wont make him have to take a step for balance. Janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] Treeless/mounting from the ground
> > We need to get Kaaren Jordan to give us some mounting from > the ground > lessons. Granted she weighs about 100 lbs soaking wet, but > she has a system > that works well for her. I always thought it was embarrasing to need a step to mount a 12.2 HH horse.
Re: [IceHorses] Treeless/mounting from the ground
Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I figure it I can drop another 10 or 15 lbs I may demo another Sensation. > > > > Nancy > > > > i have ridden in about every treeless brand there is and they will all > slip. Not necessary. I weigh over 160 lbs. and the Sensation does not slip when I mount from the ground -- AND I've been known to ride with a relatively loose girth. Also, I have another treeless that also doesn't slip. But, I think I have about 5.5" of height on you Janice, so I think how tall a person is a factor too in the slippage equation. : ) -- Renee M. in Michigan
Re: [IceHorses] Treeless/mounting from the ground
>>> Which Sensation does Cary use? In pictures he looks quite tall. Is he? >>> And do you think that helps? He uses an English trail with a Saddleright pad. He's 6'2" and ordinarily I think that would help a lot. But, he has such a serious hip issue (probably needs a replacement) that his mounting is seriously impacted. I should see if he'd let me get a video of him mounting - he's pretty easy-going, but I'll betcha he'll veto that one. He literally has to "waller up" onto the horse's back. I'm sure his disability and his weight more than outweigh any benefit the height provides in mounting. Anyway, I'm only 5'0" tall, not slim, and I'm old and crippled. I can mount the Sensations in a pinch from the ground. Believe me, we are both far from the model of youthful coordination, but we finally got the hang of mounting the "right" way. I use a breastcollar occasionally (mostly for looks) and I doubt that Cary has ever used one even once. Karen Thomas, NC >
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His Sensation doesn't slip. I promise...it doesn't. Which Sensation does Cary use? In pictures he looks quite tall. Is he? And do you think that helps? Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Treeless/mounting from the ground
>>> i have ridden in about every treeless brand there is and they will all >>> slip. The ways to minimize slippage is to have a good pad, and a snug >>> hunter type breast collar. period. no other way if you weigh over >>> about 160. and how you mount factors in. Like if you really spring up >>> there is different than hanging onto the side like you are being air >>> lifted by the coast guard after your boat has capsized in a hurricane, >>> which is how I mount. Cary is 235 pounds, doesn't use a breastcollar. He has a bad hip (otherwise fairly athletic) so he has to "waller up" (to use a Janice phrase) onto the horses' backs. His Sensation doesn't slip. I promise...it doesn't. His mounting technique is NOT pretty - he looks like an old man getting on a horse. BUT, he knows how to hold on so he doesn't torque the saddle, so it stays put nicely. Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] Treeless/mounting from the ground
>>> We need to get Kaaren Jordan to give us some mounting from the ground >>> lessons. Granted she weighs about 100 lbs soaking wet, but she has a >>> system that works well for her. I figure it I can drop another 10 or >>> 15 lbs I may demo another Sensation. Cary weights 235 pounds and he mounts his Sensation from the ground and it doesn't slip - he doesn't use a breastcollar either - granted, his style could use work, but he does it. The system that Kaaren has on her website was copied from Christine Schwartz's Joy of Icelandics book, but it's very similar to the way that Pat Parelli teaches too - it's simply a good way to mount. I CAN mount the Sensations from the ground, but I don't very often. I still have a little sciatic damage in my left (mounting) leg. Stretching that leg is a project I need to work on Karen Thomas, NC
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I am expert at mounting just about anywhere, from anything. You need to meet my friend Gayle. She is the princess of mounting from weird stuff. I have seen her use a car bumper (she does this all the time) and a picnic table and various other things. She has the most amazing horse. When I first started riding with her, she scared me by making an abrupt stop, throwing herself off her horse, leaving the reins over his neck. He just stood there like a statue while she picked out the feet she'd forgotten to check. She gets away with the most amazing stuff. He just rolls his eyes as if to say, It's just Gayle". Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Treeless/mounting from the ground
> > I figure it I can drop another 10 or 15 lbs I may demo another Sensation. > > Nancy > i have ridden in about every treeless brand there is and they will all slip. The ways to minimize slippage is to have a good pad, and a snug hunter type breast collar. period. no other way if you weigh over about 160. and how you mount factors in. Like if you really spring up there is different than hanging onto the side like you are being air lifted by the coast guard after your boat has capsized in a hurricane, which is how I mount. I am the voice of experience, the benchmark that all heavy treeless riders should aspire to. If there was a way to mount in the desert I feel I would find it cause I am expert at mounting just about anywhere, from anything. I have even mounted by using another horse's leg to brace against and pull my horse, and walk up the other horse's leg. Gotta have two great horses to do that. to me a sensation hybrid is the best treeless for fat people. the worst way to mount is to drop down onto a horses back from a cliff edge like gene autry. I once fell five times in ten minutes doing that. Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
[IceHorses] Treeless/mounting from the ground
And the treeless are not conducive to mounting from the ground, unless you want to ride on your horse's ribs! We need to get Kaaren Jordan to give us some mounting from the ground lessons. Granted she weighs about 100 lbs soaking wet, but she has a system that works well for her. I figure it I can drop another 10 or 15 lbs I may demo another Sensation. Nancy
