Re: [IceHorses] bitless video

2008-06-28 Thread Mic Rushen
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:47:24 -0600, you wrote:

That's too bad Mic.  Did you manage to reload that video?

No, not done anything about it yet. I might make a new one without
The P Word so people are not able to change the focus so easily.

Anyway, from my small experience of bitless bridles/sidepulls, I would
like to see her use more leg.  It's like she's so totally dependent on
a bit that the horse really didn't understand what she wanted.  I must
admit I didn't watch the whole thing after I saw her waterskiing...

I think the person riding is her mum and she was taking the video. I
suspect she is actually a teenager. But still a horrid riding
position, I was just aching to slide her butt forward and her legs
back!
; )

Mic


Mic (Michelle) Rushen

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Re: [IceHorses] bitless video

2008-06-28 Thread Mic Rushen
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:37:30 -0400, you wrote:

And spare me from people who do these questionable things, and then brag about 
showing the 
horse who the boss is...

Me too.

Mic


Mic (Michelle) Rushen

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Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: 
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Re: [IceHorses] bitless video

2008-06-28 Thread Skise
Mic Rushen [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti: 
 Anybody like to comment on this?
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3ochXpflcsfeature=user

Hmmm... With the first horse it looks like their riding skills equal their 
writing skills. I'm not wondering bitless doesn't really work (even with the 
first horse she is constantly having trouble getting the horse to understand 
what she wants) but I do slightly wonder that bridle with bit works any better 
because it doesn't actually look like these problems have much to do with 
bridle but with everything else she does and doesn't do (with her seat, weight, 
legs...).

Krisse


[IceHorses] bitless video

2008-06-27 Thread Mic Rushen
Anybody like to comment on this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3ochXpflcsfeature=user

Mic


Mic (Michelle) Rushen

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Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: 
www.solva-icelandics.co.uk
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Re: [IceHorses] bitless video

2008-06-27 Thread Judy Ryder


 Anybody like to comment on this?
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3ochXpflcsfeature=user


I'm glad to see the openness to trying bitless riding.  And the treats!

I think what may be missing, in both horses (even tho the first one did well 
enough), is the basic relationship-type training.

The attitude of still trying to control the horse, being the boss should 
be set aside, and work with the horse's mind, first.  Get to the point of 
having the horse willingly join you mentally, and then give you his body 
to use.  Then there does not have to be heavy contact or metal to make the 
horse do anything.

Perhaps we should write up something that might help this gal.

What was your input on this video?


Judy
http://iceryder.net
http://clickryder.com 



Re: [IceHorses] bitless video

2008-06-27 Thread Mic Rushen
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:56:31 -0700, you wrote:

What was your input on this video?

I just happened to see it. It does rather worry me that she says
herself that the mare wasn't that good in the pen but she still chose
to ride out rather than work further there, and then when it went
wrong she dismisses the bitless bridle for all except plods.

This girl made some of the most vituperative comments on the hall of
shame video...

Mic


Mic (Michelle) Rushen

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Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: 
www.solva-icelandics.co.uk
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Re: [IceHorses] bitless video

2008-06-27 Thread Wanda Lauscher
2008/6/27 Mic Rushen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 This girl made some of the most vituperative comments on the hall of
 shame video...

That's too bad Mic.  Did you manage to reload that video?

Anyway, from my small experience of bitless bridles/sidepulls, I would
like to see her use more leg.  It's like she's so totally dependent on
a bit that the horse really didn't understand what she wanted.  I must
admit I didn't watch the whole thing after I saw her waterskiing...

Wanda


-- 
Thoughts become things...


Re: [IceHorses] bitless video

2008-06-27 Thread Karen Thomas
 Anybody like to comment on this? 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3ochXpflcsfeature=user


First of all, that gal needs to have her stirrups taken away for a while - was 
she ever 
bracing on that poor horse and sitting on the cantle! Bracing on the stirrups 
makes for 
pressure on the back...and no bit or bitless rig can fix that.


Second, I'm always wary when someone says something like an Icelandic has wild 
days. 
What does that even mean?   Sure, my horses aren't always exactly the same day 
in and day 
out, no days that I'd call wild.   I'd be asking WHY does he have wild 
days?  Does he 
have recurring pain?  Is he confused because of gaps in his training?  And then 
the second 
horse isn't a calm horse.   She wants to go fast and you need a firm hand to 
ride her. 
I think I'm picking up a trend here... And, if things didn't go so well for her 
with the 
second horse inside the arena, then why did she think it would be better 
outside the 
arena...?  Duh.


And spare me from people who do these questionable things, and then brag about 
showing the 
horse who the boss is...


Karen Thomas, NC