Re: [IceHorses] bitless bridle
--- Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mostly, I use a soft > following hand or even > loose rein, Oh yes, if you have heavy hands or balance off your hands, your horse will NOT be happy in the S Hack. But don't worry, if this is the case - your horse will tell you! Susan in NV read my blog to see why I ride my horse in pink: http://desertduty.blogspot.com/
Re: [IceHorses] bitless bridle
Love the colors. How does it work? Hate to even tell you. The little short s curve shanks apply pressure on the chain. Hunter is a high energy Tennessee Walker that I have determined to work with rather than dumping him back on the market. His tongue is badly scarred by an old injury (perhaps from a bit) so I can't use the snaffle bits I love so much. Mostly, I use a soft following hand or even loose rein, but I'm not sure a sidepull would be enough headgear for him. He's actually so very much better at home that he's practically ready for the dude string. Maybe I should try the sidepull. We often ride with my friend who has the world's best Appaloosa, good old Prizey. He's been a very calming influence for Hunter, who has just about decided that the world is not a scarey place after all. A rattlesnake rattled tight beside his feet yesterday and all he did is look down quickly and sort of curve his body away from my leg on that side. I assume I might have applied some reflexive leg pressure. I just can't learn to love rattlesnakes. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] bitless bridle
2008/5/18 Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I hope she rides with more finesse than she showed in that video. Her "small > turns" were > pretty abrupt looking to me! Pretty rude to the horse... > Have you seen one in person? No, just ran across it this morning. I couldn't see any difference between this one and the Dr. Cook that Gusti hated... Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] bitless bridle
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Here's what I use on Hunter: http://www.hought.com/end.s.hackamore.html > Love the colors. How does it work? V
Re: [IceHorses] bitless bridle
>>> http://www.nurturalhorse.com/Nurtural_Bridle_Demo.html I'm not sure I see what's different about it from any other "bitless bridle" cross-over style. Can you see something different? The noseband is nice and fat though, and I'm glad she was clear that it shouldn't be on the soft part of the nose. I hope she rides with more finesse than she showed in that video. Her "small turns" were pretty abrupt looking to me! I also don't like the premise that "where the nose goes, the horse follows." Yeah, sort of, maybe, but I am a believer of seat and leg aids first, regardless of whether you're using a bit or not. And, I'm not convinced that bits always cause pain, at least not the less-severe types. I think they CAN cause pain, depending on the horse's anatomy and past experiences, but there are also some not-so-humane hackamore and bitless options out there too. That said, I couldn't anything clearly enough in the video to say that might not be a perfectly acceptable alternative for some horses...? Have you seen one in person? Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] bitless bridle
--- Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's what I use on Hunter: > http://www.hought.com/end.s.hackamore.html > > The noseband is so soft that it doesn't need to be > wrapped. There is that > chain, And el cheapo me looks at what I want, then I go about finding the cheapest! Plus, I already had my own bridles. So I bought the rope noseband S Hack from either Country Supply or Valley Vet (whichever was cheaper at the time!), bought a $1 roll of the colored coflex to match the horse (pink for Whisper of course, and the teal matches Andi's turquoise beta) wrapped the noseband, and took off the chain and replaced it with a beta curb. My curb is not really a curb, just helps hold it in place. Both of my horses love it! Of course, the Hought is very nice, but I am always, always looking to save a buck - that way I can get more stuff My total price - $55. Susan in NV read my blog to see why I ride my horse in pink: http://desertduty.blogspot.com/
Re: [IceHorses] bitless bridle
Kaaren Jordan's husband makes a wonderful sidepull and LTJ site has another very nice one. Here's what I use on Hunter: http://www.hought.com/end.s.hackamore.html The noseband is so soft that it doesn't need to be wrapped. There is that chain, soft hands suggested, although I can probably find photos of me really using more rein action than I'd suggest. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] bitless bridle
--- Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What does everyone think of this bridle? > > http://www.nurturalhorse.com/Nurtural_Bridle_Demo.html > I have one that works in a simular manner than Andi hates. He hates the pressure from underneath. It is sitting unused in my tack room. Now both Andi and Whisper love their S Hackamores! I wrapped the noseband in colored coflex to soften it. Susan in NV read my blog to see why I ride my horse in pink: http://desertduty.blogspot.com/
Re: [IceHorses] Bitless Bridle
> As far as Europeans being open to bitless in general Linda started taking > sidepulls to Germany in the 70's when she took a Western trail mare to one > of the first Equitana's and did a demo of bridleless riding which > astonished > people. Here's a page with some pictures (Icelandics, too) of a gal that practices Horses in Harmony (her version of PNH): http://www.horseinharmony.dk/kursister.htm Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
RE: [IceHorses] Bitless Bridle
Hi Judy, >While I'm not a fan of the Bitless Bridle using the cross-over design >because of the vice-like grip it can have on the horse, and not being able >to ask for a tip of the head without also affecting the poll, I am a fan of >bitless riding (i.e. sidepull) and am glad to see that "bitless" in general >is gaining stride in Europe: I would agree with you in generall about the bitless bridles - especially because some of them are fastened so tightly around the nose and the cross over pieces don't release well. As far as Europeans being open to bitless in general Linda started taking sidepulls to Germany in the 70's when she took a Western trail mare to one of the first Equitana's and did a demo of bridleless riding which astonished people. Since then many people have been using "Lindell" the sidepull various that was named for Linda. Also the first cross over bitless bridle that I saw was in Germany at least 20 years ago, long before I ever saw them here. He gave me two to try but I was not totally convinced because of the slow release on the cross over. The same man developed a leather bit that could be used without a headstall. Quite fine unless a horse chews through it : )) Robyn Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com
