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> A leadline class for Stephanie and any of the youngsters on the list > family > who are not old enough to ride independently. Maybe I can enter my neighbor girl in leadline, too. >>>I am way beyond my old competitive days and really don't care about >>>ribbons. Yes, we don't have to be competitive, just have some fun and present our horses a little differently to mainstream America. Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
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On 2/26/08, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Janice. Janice. Janice. You are SO overconfident. Both of our Icelandics > will climb the steps into the tack room. They could do manufactured housing > in a heartbeat. > > Nancy > oh well we shall see now wont WE nancy. Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
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On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:58:48AM -0600, Janice McDonald wrote: > it dont matter vicka cause me and teev and Nos are gonna whoop all > your butts in the mobile home stairs championship cup. well, of course you are. that said, i expect stjarni and me to kick ass on the beach race and the two-headed axe competition :) --vicka
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Janice. Janice. Janice. You are SO overconfident. Both of our Icelandics will climb the steps into the tack room. They could do manufactured housing in a heartbeat. Nancy
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it dont matter vicka cause me and teev and Nos are gonna whoop all your butts in the mobile home stairs championship cup. janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
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> > ps. does anyone know of anything like the "flip video" camera that works > well with macs? One of my Flip video friends uses an iMac, so I thnk it's compatable, but you'd want to check. Nancy >
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On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 06:14:14AM -0600, Wanda Lauscher wrote: > Ooo...Nancy...I like that idea. We should pick a day and each one of > us should head out to our horses with a camera in hand. a friend and i went out to see stjarni yesterday, and she brought a camera, so i will have pix! (with new saddle on even! :) and maybe video! and (since i'm kinda broke right now and my camera never turned up) i bid on ebay for the kind of camera i used to have, so i may be able to join in more with the pictures thing soon. warning that the footing was AWFUL -- eight inches of powder snow over packed ice. stjarni fell over at a canter while racing around the ring as we got ready to groom him. (got right back up, not apparently hurt; i guess eight inches of powder snow and two hundred pounds of winter fat provided him with a softened landing...very scary though.) we walked, we tolted a little, we turned on the forehand, we had fun until stjarni decided that the ring was too much of a skating rink and started to be resistant, at which point we got off and practiced polite sharing of an apple and turned him out. (we really need another icelandic. stjarni clearly thinks his two paddockmates are tweedledum and tweedledumber, and it was hard to convince him to leave us entertaining human beings for his paddock and his conspecificssigh) --vicka ps. does anyone know of anything like the "flip video" camera that works well with macs?
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On 25/02/2008, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am way beyond my old competitive days and really don't care about ribbons. > In fact I wonder if we should set aside a nice summer day, when the folks in > Canada have thawed out and before Lorraine starts to dry up and blow away > and each submit a video of what we are doing with Icelandics on that day. Ooo...Nancy...I like that idea. We should pick a day and each one of us should head out to our horses with a camera in hand. This Saturday might work for me... I love seeing what everyone else is doing... Wanda
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> > Sounds like "trail class" is getting plenty of entries already. Judy, how > about a Natural Horsemanship class, or a couple of them. ooh i like that idea. but to make it competitive, we already show videos all the time of stuff we do... we should have a rule that we have the event category, the rules, and then say you have to video it all at one time, no cut and paste or edit so we get to really see whose horse does it best. I would like a trick training category and have walking up mobile home steps as an event. Or hey, maybe we could say five tricks and whoever does the best five tricks of their choice... we could all pay an entry fee of five bucks into a paypal account and the winner could get a video tape of their choice or something! I would like to see a ground work category for horses not yet broke to ride, like say 2-5 year olds, just show clipping, hoof handling, tuching all over, leading etc... stuff like that Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
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Judy wrote: > > >What happens if that person choses not to forward it up the ladder? From: "Mic Rushen" > Then you need to elect someone who WILL support your point of view (it's that old "change things from the inside" argument again). Hi Mic, One or two persons elected to a board of nine (as in the case of the USIHC) can easily find themselves out-numbered and out-voted by their fellow board members who may have oppositional viewpoints / perspectives. I know, I know, the "be the change you want to see" argument sounds good, but there's also the wise old adage: "Know when to cut bait." > I don't know how it is in the US, but in the UK IHS members are free to attend meetings of the Board< I could be totally wrong, but I *believe* the regional clubs can have a rep "listen in" on the teleconferenced board member meetings. I do not think the membership at large can participate in this manner, just recognized USIHC regional club reps. Is this right -- anyone know for sure?The board meeting minutes are eventually posted on the website, however, for all to see, including how certain boardmembers voted on various things. >or Sports/Breeding Group meetings, < Have no idea who is allowed to participate in the sports / breeding meetings. However, somthing that is kind of interesting: According to the USIHC website's January board meeting minutes, it was just passed by a vote of the board members that anyone who wants to BE on the Sports committee has to have taken a 3-day judges seminar which is occasionally offered at different locations in the country.Current members of the committee who don't meet this criteria have a year to comply. That does give the impression this particular committee is rather inclusive. Isn't it funny how different each country operates? Or at the very least, the differing "atmospheres"? -- Renee M. in Michigan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1 - Release Date: 02/25/2008 12:00 AM
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- Original Message - From: "Mic Rushen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >You need to write up a proposed showing class for naturally-presented horses. Or possibly two classes - I would suggest a Gait class (to show gait ie foxtrot, rack/tolt, running walk etc etc) and a Natural 4-Gait class (to show walk, trot, canter and gait as above). > . . . I'm NOT saying they would accept it - but if you don't ask you don't get. It would certainly require some serious education of judges to recognise (or rather, to correctly name) the various gaits.< The acknowledgement and acceptanace of other soft gaits besides tolt is where I think the stumbling block would be in this project.I just don't see FEIF (and the USIHC, for that matter) being receptive to the idea of Icelandic horses showing foxtrot, running walk, etc. in the show ring. I think the only way one would get this to fly is to propose the natural category with tolt being the soft gait shown. . . At least initially. Then, down the road, if this competition venue was popular, one could start to push for wider parameters of acceptable soft gaits. > We (ie judges) should all recognise "trotty tolt" (often foxtrot) for instance, but actually recogising a > GOOD foxtrot is a whole other continuum.< Excellent point.So true. > It would be nice to get someone like Liz Graves (where's Lee when we > need her? : ( ) to write judge's guidelines (FIPO style) for all the > soft gaits. Yes. I agree. But there again, you've got to change the mindset out there in "the powers that be" that although bred to tolt (supposedly), other soft gaits occur (IMO, in abundance) in the breed. You'd have to work to get folks to think of this not as a fault or an improperly trained horse, but just a normal variation that occurs in EVERY gaited horse breed, especially one which has sought to preserve both lateral (rack and pace) and diagonal gait (trot) in it's horses. And it's not a bad thing at all for the pleasure and casual show rider. -- Renee M. in Michigan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1 - Release Date: 02/25/2008 12:00 AM
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>>> A mini endurance ride for me - maybe five miles with someone doing a vet >>> check before and after. The most interesting competitive event to me are the trail trials. However, there aren't many in my area yet. So...how about those of you who know them doing a realistic trail-trial class, so I can see what they are really about. Lynn, I personally don't care if you enter with a Paso - I'd just like to make sure that my impression is correct! On a totally 'nuther tangent, maybe I could coerce my friend and dressage rider/trainer, Shirley, to ride one of my horses with strong trots in a into-dressage test...No gaits, just a "real" dressage test... Karen Thomas, NC >
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> What classes would you want for yourself? your children? your horses? > > > Judy A leadline class for Stephanie and any of the youngsters on the list family who are not old enough to ride independently. It takes three people for Stephanie to ride, one to lead the pony and one at each knee, usually referred to as "sidewalkers". She asked me once if I thought she could do endurance and while I was phrasing a kind but candid answer, Bruce said "It would take an entire track team." A mini endurance ride for me - maybe five miles with someone doing a vet check before and after. Nancy
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--- Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd be curious how many people really are interested > in ribbons, or is this > about finding all the ways we can shine? > We could have web "ribbons". I need to get my obstacles together... Susan in NV http://desertduty.blogspot.com/ Riding for Breast Cancer Awareness Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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>>> So, if we have a class for Halter (not judging conformation, but the >>> behavior of the horse and relationship of horse and owner), and three >>> people enter, those videos would be put on one page. The 4H kids here used to have (and may still have) a class called "Showmanship." It looked initially like "halter" classes, but the horses weren't judged on looks or conformation, so it was a more "democratic" class, not favoring the folks who could buy little Susie a $50,000 horse. The kids were supposed to lead the horses in, stop at a certain point, maybe trot for a given distance, and then stand with the horse while the judge did an "inspection." I saw some cute little kids in hand-me-down clothes with ewe-necked horses beat out the fat halter horses in those classes... The horse was supposed to be clean, relaxed, mannerly and cooperative - beauty was not a criteria. Karen Thomas, NC
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> > Nancy, be sure to tell Stephanie I'd love to see her get involved. She > could begin with an on-line, groundwork class... :) > > I'd be curious how many people really are interested in ribbons, or is > this > about finding all the ways we can shine? I am way beyond my old competitive days and really don't care about ribbons. In fact I wonder if we should set aside a nice summer day, when the folks in Canada have thawed out and before Lorraine starts to dry up and blow away and each submit a video of what we are doing with Icelandics on that day. I might be doing trail or Stephanie might be doing ground work. Karen might be starting a youngster. Janice might be riding a parade and Judy might be teaching Charm something else "charming". A video compilation of eveything just the folks on this list do with Icelandics would be a good representation of how versatile they are. Nancy. > >
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> Could we do it on real trails? I think that's an absolute yes. Why not? Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
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>>> I think the virtual class is a great idea and a whole show even better >>> but I do think that to set up video of the class at home to be viewed by >>> others it would have to be only one class at a time to keep us focused >>> on the right moves, time limits, etc. What about if we set up the description for each class, people "enter" whatever class they want, video tape themselves, then upload the video to youtube, and we can compile the videos from whoever joined that class onto one web page. So, if we have a class for Halter (not judging conformation, but the behavior of the horse and relationship of horse and owner), and three people enter, those videos would be put on one page. And we might have four people enter a class for Lead Line, or Obstacles on Line, Obstacles Under Saddle, or Canter (would it be good to make classes easy for everyone to join in as a start?). Owners could enter a lot of classes or just one. I think leading a well-behaved Icelandic with a child is a good thing to recognize, as well as a young horse doing on-line tasks; what do you think? Suggestions for other classes? It won't cost anyone anything to enter, virtually free to do this, so there are no constraints. >>>I do think this sounds awsome...I am ready to get started. Yippee! What classes would you want for yourself? your children? your horses? Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
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>>> Could we do it on real trails? I don't see why not...except that it might be hard to equalize the judging when people are on different trails. But, you know what, I could care less about "winning"...I just would like to see what everyone else can do, so I can get inspired to try stuff. The hardest part about submitting "real trail" videos for me is that our trails are mostly single-file, and shady - not conducive to good video or even still pictures...but I'll see what I can figure out. Sounds like "trail class" is getting plenty of entries already. Judy, how about a Natural Horsemanship class, or a couple of them. Maybe a basic "on-lead" class and an "at liberty" class? I need something to inspire me to hone my at liberty playing. You could also split NH classes by groundwork and by riding. We could keep this going all summer I bet. Nancy, be sure to tell Stephanie I'd love to see her get involved. She could begin with an on-line, groundwork class... :) I'd be curious how many people really are interested in ribbons, or is this about finding all the ways we can shine? Karen Thomas, NC
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> Why stop with a class. Let's have a full show. I don't care much for any > of > the "on the rail" type classes, but I'd love to see a trail class< I think the virtual class is a great idea and a whole show even better but I do think that to set up video of the class at home to be viewed by others it would have to be only one class at a time to keep us focused on the right moves, time limits, etc. I would like it since it would be done on my schedule instead of waiting in line for others to compete, and sometimes causing my horse impatients, especially if others horses are rudely acting up. Although, sometimes mine get a little rude and cause some racket with their tasting others flanks when bored. I do think this sounds awsome...I am ready to get started.
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but I'd love to see a trail class. Could we do it on real trails? My riding friend was laughing out loud at Tosca today. It rained harder last night than we had thought and the trail we went up (and down) was pretty slippery. She says Tosca was tucking her little black butt and sliding with both hind feet. Felt quite safe from my perspective and Tosca was perfectly relaxed. Nancy>
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>>> I have an idea! ... How about if we have a virtual Natural Class? Why stop with a class. Let's have a full show. I don't care much for any of the "on the rail" type classes, but I'd love to see a trail class. Karen Thomas, NC
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obstacle course. 1. Crossing a tarp 2. weaving in and out cones. 3.stepping up on a box, pedestal or into a trailer 4. Backing up through poles laid on the ground in an L shape or W so the horse has to execute a turn while being backed up. 5. Stepping over a log, stopping, then sidepassing 6. Going over a big log 7. crossing a puddle-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
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I have an idea! How about if we have a virtual Natural Class? Since we are geographically far apart, this may be a start! We could set up a "show" for a few months down the line, set up the goals for the class / classes, let everyone get prepared, then each person video tape their work, upload the videos, and we, as a community, can award some ribbons (or not, or participation certificates, whatever the concensus is). This will have the added benefit of showing and allowing others to see what the natural Icelandic Horse can do, and is capable of doing! How about some ideas for the class or classes? guidelines? Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
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On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 09:05:18AM +, Mic Rushen wrote: > We (ie judges) should all recognise > "trotty tolt" (often foxtrot) for instance, but actually recogising a > GOOD foxtrot is a whole other continuum. is it necessary to do this? would it be enough to evaluate the gaits for say "apparent smoothness" (to be based on the rider's relaxed seat), "consistency" (based on the horse continuing to do the same thing all the way through his or her soft gait section), and "naturality" (based on the horse's feet being evenly trimmed with attention to the leg angles)? given the debates we have here with videos, with people who are trying to educate themselves, i am not sure that educating judges this way is an easy task, and it also gives them imho too much leeway to prefer one soft gait over another. --vicka
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On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:40:56 -0800, you wrote: >What happens if that person choses not to forward it up the ladder? Then you need to elect someone who WILL support your point of view (it's that old "change things from the inside" argument again). However, as we would be asking for extra classes, rather than another confrontation about changing existing rules, I would have thought there could be no real argument against it. I don't know how it is in the US, but in the UK IHS members are free to attend meetings of the Board or Sports/Breeding Group meetings, so you would be able to see what takes place and query why, if the majority support the motion, it doesn't go anywhere. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- "Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes"
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On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 1:11:06 -0500, you wrote: >Okay, so first a proposal is written up, then it is taken to the FEIF-member >organization's "National Sport Leader" who is the one who would present it to >FEIF The Sport Leader would first present it to the FEIF Sport Group. > >I would think before the national sport leader could present it to FEIF, it >would also have to be approved by the country's FEIF organization where the >proposal originated. Correct. > >Hmmm . . . . Is anyone good friends with Heidi? : ) Well, I've had a few cups of coffee/chats with her at various FEIF meetings over the years does that count? ; ) Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- "Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes"
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On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:59:07 -0800, you wrote: >Eeek! I should have kept reading my e-mails. Okay, so Mic you don't >think FEIF would balk at the idea of supporting classes where Icelandics could >be shown performing other soft gaits besides tolt and this would be >acceptable?Really? You think there's a snowball's chance you know where >of this flying? I think it would be worth giving it a try. I'm NOT saying they would accept it - but if you don't ask you don't get. It would certainly require some serious education of judges to recognise (or rather, to correctly name) the various gaits. We (ie judges) should all recognise "trotty tolt" (often foxtrot) for instance, but actually recogising a GOOD foxtrot is a whole other continuum. It would be nice to get someone like Liz Graves (where's Lee when we need her? : ( ) to write judge's guidelines (FIPO style) for all the soft gaits. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- "Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes"
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> Okay, so first a proposal is written up, then it is taken to the > FEIF-member organization's "National Sport Leader" who is the one who > would present it to FEIF > > I would think before the national sport leader could present it to FEIF, > it would also have to be approved by the country's FEIF organization > where the proposal originated. What happens if that person choses not to forward it up the ladder? Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
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Okay, so first a proposal is written up, then it is taken to the FEIF-member organization's "National Sport Leader" who is the one who would present it to FEIF I would think before the national sport leader could present it to FEIF, it would also have to be approved by the country's FEIF organization where the proposal originated. For example, if someone in the United States wrote up the proposal, I *think* the person they would submit it to would be Heidi Kline who is listed as the competition committee chair on the USIHC's website. (I didn't see where a National Sport Leader" was listed for the USIHC). I am thinking Heidi would then likely have to get the USIHC board's approval before submitting it to FEIF. Hmmm . . . . Is anyone good friends with Heidi? : )
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Mic Rushen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > You need to write up a proposed showing class for naturally-presented > horses. Or possibly two classes - I would suggest a Gait class (to > show gait ie foxtrot, rack/tolt, running walk etc etc) and a Natural > 4-Gait class (to show walk, trot, canter and gait as above). Eeek! I should have kept reading my e-mails. Okay, so Mic you don't think FEIF would balk at the idea of supporting classes where Icelandics could be shown performing other soft gaits besides tolt and this would be acceptable? Really? You think there's a snowball's chance you know where of this flying? Wow . . . Now you got ME excited. : ) -- Renee M. in Michigan
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> >>>You need to write up a proposed showing class for naturally-presented > horses. Or possibly two classes - I would suggest a Gait class (to > show gait ie foxtrot, rack/tolt, running walk etc etc) and a Natural > 4-Gait class (to show walk, trot, canter and gait as above). <<< > > > Thank you, Mic, for doing this! > > Is anyone willing to take on this project for the benefit of the horse? i don't feel remotely qualified to write up a class, but i can think of a good venue to recruit riders -- it looks like there will be another centered-riding-for-iceys clinic at lucile bump's this spring, and if there's another icelandics show in tunbridge, we could probably very easily bring the two together for a good turnout of riders and horses. --vicka
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>OK, can you walk us thru the process? Yes, I should think so. > >First, do we need to write something up? >>>You need to write up a proposed showing class for naturally-presented horses. Or possibly two classes - I would suggest a Gait class (to show gait ie foxtrot, rack/tolt, running walk etc etc) and a Natural 4-Gait class (to show walk, trot, canter and gait as above). <<< Thank you, Mic, for doing this! Is anyone willing to take on this project for the benefit of the horse? Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
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>OK, can you walk us thru the process? Yes, I should think so. > >First, do we need to write something up? You need to write up a proposed showing class for naturally-presented horses. Or possibly two classes - I would suggest a Gait class (to show gait ie foxtrot, rack/tolt, running walk etc etc) and a Natural 4-Gait class (to show walk, trot, canter and gait as above). I would say have 5 as the average mark, then lose 1 point for use of shoes (which may be a necessity for some horses) and 2 points for use of a bit (which should not). Basing it around a FIPO gait class, it would be something like this: G1 Gait Test This test is performed on the oval track. Preliminary Round Riders compete individually. Sections: 1. Begin at the middle of the short side and ride one round in slow gait on either rein. Return to walk at the middle of the short side and change rein. 2. From the middle of the short side ride one round in faster gait. Final Round The finalists ride together and are instructed by the speaker. They ride the same sections as in the preliminary round on both reins. G4 Natural Four Gait Test This test is performed on the oval track. Preliminary Round Riders compete individually. The test can be ridden on either rein. The rider has three and a half rounds at his disposal to show the following gaits in any order: 1. slow gait 2. working to medium trot 3. medium walk 4. working to medium canter 5. faster gait Each gait may be shown only once, walk for a half round and the other gaits for one round. Final Round The horses show the four gaits as instructed by the speaker. They ride on the rein agreed upon and in the order selected by the majority of the riders. In the event of a draw the vote of the preliminary round’s winner is doubled. If no other agreement is made, the order will be as follows: 1. slow gait 2. working to medium trot 3. medium walk 4. working to medium canter 5. faster gait You will also need to produce a set of judges guidelines for gait within the tests. Something like, for the gait section only: Gait Excellent section 9 to 10 - Absolutely correct beat and speed with charisma and beauty. Full engagement of the hind legs. Fluent and powerful, proud carriage and constant perfect head position. Perfect partnership between rider and horse, aids invisible, horse obviously happy and relaxed. 8 and 8.5 Clear good beat, speed and carriage. Hind legs engaged and good head position. Plenty of energy and good posture. Good partnership between horse and riders, aids almost invisible. Horse obviously happy and relaxed. Transition to good section 7 and 7.5 Good speed, beat and carriage. Some minor faults in carriage allowed. Hocks not always as engaged. Steady head position. Good partnership between horse and rider. Average section 6 and 6.5 Beat usually fine, some occasional unsteadiness in beat. Carriage good but not always perfectly steady. Good partnership between horse and rider. 5 and 5.5 No continuous clear faults in beat and no continuous major faults in carriage. Reasonable head carriage, steady for most of the test. Nicely ridden, aids may be visible but not disturbing the horse. Transition to average section 4 and 4.5 Continuous slight faults of beat (pacey, trotty, or rolling but with good overall outline) OR clear beat, steady head carriage, but poor outline. Aids visible. Horse offering occasional resistance (opening mouth or lashing tail now and again, or looking at all upset) Fault section 1 to 3.5 Continuous severe faults of beat such as trotty beat, rolling, changing beat, or paciness in non-pace-based gait. Clearly visible aids which are upsetting or disturbing the horse (constantly resisting rein aids, tail-lashing, obviously uncomfortable). 0 Test not carried out no gait shown. Obviously, I've adapted this from the FIPO guidelines for Tolt. We could do the same for walk, trot and canter. Alternatively, we could have a different set of guidelines for each of the easy gaits (which I'm NOT qualified to write). This would give us something to work from, a basis. There's a lot more than could be added/worked on. > >Then contact who? > The Sport Leader of the USIHC - ideally, get a few members together to put their signatures to a proposal and ask for the Sport Committee to consider it. Say that you wish to run FIPO classes for naturally trained horses. HTH Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- "Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes"
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> It needs a National Sport Leader to do it, ideally. I don't think ours > would, though I can approach our Sport Group and see. Why not try to > convince the US one as well? Thing is, it's not actually changing > anything already in FIPO, simply adding an extra class to cater for > demand. OK, can you walk us thru the process? First, do we need to write something up? Then contact who? Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
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On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 08:13:08 -0800, you wrote: >Very interesting! > >Mic, are you able to do it? or being a judge, are you in a position that >you can't do it? It needs a National Sport Leader to do it, ideally. I don't think ours would, though I can approach our Sport Group and see. Why not try to convince the US one as well? Thing is, it's not actually changing anything already in FIPO, simply adding an extra class to cater for demand. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- "Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes"
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> To bring it within FEIF we would need to make a proposal to the FEIF > Sport Group to introduce a "Natural" Class into the FIPO the Sport > leader/board of a FEIF > member country, for it to carry any weight. If the Sport Group agreed, > it would then be proposed at the FEIF Delegates Assembly, and, > hopefully, accepted into FIPO. > > I suspect it might actually be possible to get it passed. Very interesting! Mic, are you able to do it? or being a judge, are you in a position that you can't do it? Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
