Re: [IceHorses] Re: Collection and the Gaited Horse
I have to admit, that I agree with his assessment above. http://iceryder.net/icecollection.html Having come from a mostly dressage background, this has been my feeling all along, too. I know this debate has been tossed around many times but to me there is just no question that he is correct. It's pretty easy to see that the hindquarters are not engaged in tolt. It's pretty easy to see that the back is not in bascule in tolt. It's pretty easy to see that the neck is not telescoped in tolt. If one looks only at the head, it may be confusing. But if one looks only at the head, it's the wrong place to look! The set of the head (where the horse places his head when the components of collection are in place) is a gift that the horse gives the rider, and it will appear with draped reins (per the masters), and not with contact. Icelandic trainers haven't yet started studying equine biomechanics. For education and information, we look to those who are familiar with that area. Here's an interesting discussion on raising the base of the neck: http://esiforum.mywowbb.com/forum1/116.html Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Collection and the Gaited Horse
I've read some of Joe's articles, and I e-mailed with him for a while, asking him some questions. He seems pretty smart, and capable of calling 'em like he sees 'em. I have to admit, that I agree with his assessment above. Having come from a mostly dressage background, this has been my feeling all along, too. I know this debate has been tossed around many times but to me there is just no question that he is correct. -- Laree in NC Doppa Mura Simon, Sadie and Sam (the S gang) Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to the horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them. - William Farley
RE: [IceHorses] Re: Collection and the Gaited Horse
As I watched the video, I was captivated by the wonderful description of a perfectly collected equine athlete. What I saw on the screen however, was nothing like what was being described. I was left with confusion about the Icelandic Horse community's understanding of collection. I couldn't believe the person on the tape had no idea of what collection was, because he used all the right words. It appeared as if the Icelandic Horse community had totally redefined the words used to describe collection so they can say their horses are collected. I've read some of Joe's articles, and I e-mailed with him for a while, asking him some questions. He seems pretty smart, and capable of calling 'em like he sees 'em. I have to admit, that I agree with his assessment above. Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.31/1129 - Release Date: 11/13/2007 9:22 PM
