Re: [IceHorses] icelandic parelli?

2007-12-22 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Dec 21, 2007 9:23 PM, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>if i can get him where I wiggle the
> lead rope and he backs off a little that will be so great.

When Orri gets too into my space I will shrug my shoulders fast with
emphasis but without looking at him and he will back away like I'm a
nutbar, it doesn't scare him.  I picked that up from Parelli.
V


Re: [IceHorses] icelandic parelli?

2007-12-21 Thread Karen Thomas
  he is my only horse that will "ground > tie".  I can drop the lead 
  and he will stand politely while I open the  gate, walk thru, stand 
politely while I close it.  Yet the same horse  will knock me down and 
step on my leg when unloading from a trailer at a new house he's never 
been to before.  I want to get where we can walk down the road and do 
the porcupine game and he will stay in his space and outa mine!


You can get there.  Part of the reason I like the Parelli games is that 
it's organized.  Now, granted, I don't apply it the same way to every 
one of my horses - in fact, I don't use it at all with some of the 
horses who've come here with great manners - I just use what they 
already know.   But that organization can help keep both of you focused 
the next time you're in a crisis.


 >>> and then confuse him by smacking him if he gets in your space.


You shouldn't need to be rough or aggressive at all.   I'll bet he will 
do great...


Karen Thomas, NC



Re: [IceHorses] icelandic parelli?

2007-12-21 Thread Janice McDonald
On 12/21/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
>
>
> That "hunkering over" is pretty key.  After you get to the point that is 
> instinctive to you, you can do the same thing with just the subtlest tilt of 
> your head.  Horses are VERY tuned in to body language, and even a horse that 
> doesn't know the Parelli program will many times respond to the body language 
> they show you.   I'm convinced that he Seven Games aren't the "Parelli Games" 
> - they are part of the natural language of horses.
>
>
> Karen


I had a really good session with Walls today.  He backed up with me
pressing my fingertips to his nose.  it was awesome.  (the porcupine
game).  He gets excited and walks all over me.  If he gets nervous he
wants to be close to me and steps on me or a few times has knocked me
down.  I have got where I am nervous to even lead him in an excited
situation because he just walks all over me.  yet at home for
instance, walking thru a gate, he is my only horse that will "ground
tie".  I can drop the lead and he will stand politely while I open the
gate, walk thru, stand politely while I close it.  Yet the same horse
will knock me down and step on my leg when unloading from a trailer at
a new house he's never been to before.  I want to get where we can
walk down the road and do the porcupine game and he will stay in his
space and outa mine!

Its very hard to train a horse that does nothing wrong at home, that
is perfectly mannered then you get him off from home and he's a nut.
I am hoping this parelli thing works with him.  He is very very
special.

but its cruel to take a horse that was overimprinted and actually
taken into the house onto the sofa cause his momma died, and then
confuse him by smacking him if he gets in your space.  Would make him
neurotic i think!  He just wouldnt understand.  There has to be
another way...  and besides, I never want to take the specialness out
of him.  he is too TOO special.  if i can get him where I wiggle the
lead rope and he backs off a little that will be so great.  If i can
get him confident and relaxed at all times, he would be as good a
horse as there is!
Janice--
yipie tie yie yo


RE: [IceHorses] icelandic parelli?

2007-12-21 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Someone asked what was so parelli about it, but I liked it because it is a 
>>> normal person trying to do parelli, not a certified official parelli thing. 


Pat Parelli will be the first to tell you that, when it comes right down to it, 
nothing is really "so Parelli" about his program.  He uses good, sound natural 
horsemanship methods, but their claim to fame is coming up with the most 
organized program for the average person to follow.  He's quick to give credit 
to his mentors, like Ronnie Willis and Tom Dorrence to name a couple.



 get so much more out of seeing it than reading it, and like this woman, 
 she squats down when she does the "come here" part of the yoyo.   On the 
 parelli video linda is doing it and she sorta hunkers over.  I noticed 
 this woman is tall.  Its just interesting to me to see the translations. 


That "hunkering over" is pretty key.  After you get to the point that is 
instinctive to you, you can do the same thing with just the subtlest tilt of 
your head.  Horses are VERY tuned in to body language, and even a horse that 
doesn't know the Parelli program will many times respond to the body language 
they show you.   I'm convinced that he Seven Games aren't the "Parelli Games" - 
they are part of the natural language of horses.  


Karen
Karen Thomas
Wingate, NC



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Re: [IceHorses] icelandic parelli?

2007-12-21 Thread Janice McDonald
On 12/21/07, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > watch.  I am trying this parelli stuff with mine now and will try and
> > get video!
> >
> > http://youtube.com/watch?v=NR8Jx05H4M8&feature=user
> >
> > http://youtube.com/watch?v=oKIfaJP3eZc&feature=user
>

if you view these videos and then click on "more from this user" she
has lots, and some other parelli stuff.  Someone said she was speaking
norwegian?  Someone asked what was so parelli about it, but I liked it
because it is a normal person trying to do parelli, not a certified
official parelli thing.  I like to see normal every day people do
things, somehow it helps me and inspires, like clicker training.  I
get so much more out of seeing it than reading it, and like this
woman, she squats down when she does the "come here" part of the yoyo.
 On the parelli video linda is doing it and she sorta hunkers over.  I
noticed this woman is tall.  Its just interesting to me to see the
translations.  Also the horse seems to be getting bored with it, but
the woman seems still very focused and enjoying the work.  Just
interesting to see how others do things.
Janice
Janice
-- 
yipie tie yie yo


RE: [IceHorses] icelandic parelli?

2007-12-21 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Please let me know when you find more Icelandic + Parelli videos so that I 
>>> can link them to the website!


I'd love to see some from our own Penny Hodge... :) 


Karen
Karen Thomas
Wingate, NC



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Re: [IceHorses] icelandic parelli?

2007-12-21 Thread Judy Ryder
> watch.  I am trying this parelli stuff with mine now and will try and
> get video!
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=NR8Jx05H4M8&feature=user
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=oKIfaJP3eZc&feature=user

This is very progressive!  and much better for the horse than previously, 
which might have included harsher stuff or the horse and rider not even 
learning a sidepass on the ground or under saddle.

Please let me know when you find more Icelandic + Parelli videos so that I can 
link them to the website!


Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com