Re: [IceHorses] Anyone using a treed saddle anymore?
On 05/12/2007, Lorraine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I live in Keens. I love them. Oh my...I have a pair of Keen's too. I love them. Wanda
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> > I LIVE in Crocs all summer, and all the time I'm > indoors in the winter > > - I love the things and find them the most > comfortable shoes ever. > I live in Keens. I love them. I have never tried Crocs although they are cute. Lorraine Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
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oh i forgot, i also have a flex panel orthoflex stitchdown. actually my favorite "treed" saddle to ride in, and i had the new shorter, more flexible panels put on and had the back ground off to allow for even more flexibility. It is wonderful for jaspar because there is a huge tunnel down the spine for clearance and the panels with their booties mean I dont even have to have a saddle pad across his spine or anything touching his spine in anyway. he seems real happy in this saddle and so does stonewall and fox.but stonewall and fox seem happy in anything except stonewall for some reason doesnt seem to like a dixie midnite saddle pad. dont ask me how i know, i can just sense some hesitance to move out freely at first. I love this saddle for MY comfort and love the way it feels secure and somehow makes me sit more correctly, and I wish it would fit all my horses but I put it on tivar and my gosh it perched up on him like a silly joke! Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
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at our last board of county commissioners meeting it was 30 degrees out and a man came in and sat next to me wearing bermuda shorts, short sleeved tee short, and crocs. One of the holes in the croc had a lttle plastic panda head in it. ?? He was about fifty years old. as for treed saddles. yes. Here are mine and my comments: 1. Thorowgood wide tree dressage. Works great on Fox but is miserably wretchedly uncomfortable after even an hour on the trail. 2. Antique bona allen custom plantation model. (roy rogers traveled with Trigger cross country by train to have him fitted in Georgia for his custom bona allen saddles. (not to be confused with buena vista model saddles as so many often do, bona allens come in many models, most were custom made and custom fitted horse by horse). I have yet to find a horse this saddle doesnt fit, even Tivar, tho I am no expert in saddlefit and due to his saddlefit issues I never actually rode him in it longer than two laps around a roundpen but I might risk a longer ride in it someday just for experimental purposes) it fits all my other horses, no matter the shape. I spoke with Liz about it and she said the bona allens, like many vintage saddles, work for more horses than modern treed saddles due to somewhere along the line saddlemakers started all using the same pre-fab tree which has little or no flare whereas vintage saddles, custom fitted for each horse, most had "flare". It is very slick and hard but ok for a trail ride if I put a cusion in teh seat, and its a hassle to adjust the stirrups. 3. a cheap mexican show saddle with lots of silver, never been on a horse. I imagine its horrible. 4. a wide tree tucker endurance, my husbands. None of the horses he rides seem to object. I thin anytime you ride in a tucker on any horse it needs to be a wide tree to have enough flare. You can always pad up the rest. 5. I have had many treeless saddles and the one most stable and secure feeling to me was a bob marshall, but I HATED the way i felt like my hips just hung straight down. and it wasnt my imagination, after an hour on teh trail my hips would start aching. My sensation hybrid is the most comfortable/best treeless so far, and I really think I can get over this wobbly feeling I get in it when Teev is cantering around a corner. and since i have never ridden him in any treed saddle, I might even feel that way then too, I dont know. Janice yipie tie yie yo
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HAHAHA mic are you into BRIGHT colors or what :) (I sent you a great shirt btw, it will go with your outfit) Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
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On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 08:37:22AM +, Mic Rushen wrote: > I LIVE in Crocs all summer, and all the time I'm indoors in the winter > - I love the things and find them the most comfortable shoes ever. they've just started selling these at the grocery near me. do you have a recommended style (i.e. with or without the strap in back?) i've been considering them for gym shoes... thanks, --vicka
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>Looking good, Mic! (Do you have Crocs on?) I LIVE in Crocs all summer, and all the time I'm indoors in the winter - I love the things and find them the most comfortable shoes ever. And no, they're not the safest thing around horses, but I had just given her a bath and they're great for getting wet in. > >The mare seems to have some withers... more of an "A" frame back? Yes, and rather long too. > >In the picture of the saddle, taken straight on, from the front, it may be >the way it's sitting on the stand, but it looks a little crooked. Is it? It's not on a stand at all, it's just on the ground which wasn't very level. > >If you were to look down on it, while it's standing on the front (and then >vice versa, standing on the back), does it appear straight to you? Yes, it does. > Roony (Skessa) has gone home now and I'm really missing her. : ( Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- "Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes"
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All of our saddles are treed. We own 4 Icelandic saddles Benni harmony with a flexible tree-fits many of our horses Hrapp saddle that fits Trausti like it was custom. And another Icelandic saddle, and an Icelandic cheap knock off that fits many of our horses Skye Fire Island Farms Breeding Quality Icelandic Trail Horses Certified Farrier Services 'Natural Balance' Shoeing and Trimming. Founder, Navicular options for your horse. 808-640-6080
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On Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 11:59:23AM -0300, Virginia Tupper wrote: > On 10/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i like my sensation (actually i am trialing my second sensation, > > as the first one -- the dressage model -- also turns out to be > > too long in the flap for me) > > Which model are you trialling? an english trail, i think. it has a shorter and slightly more forward flap. i'm not jumping stjarni high enough right now to feel much different in the flap, but i have short students who will be able to really make a difference with the extra few inches, and i think when/if we go higher (or wider, my barn just put in a water ditch) it'll be good for me too :) --vicka
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> One thing I have learned this week helping my friend find a saddle > that fits her horse - There can be a big difference between how a > saddle fits when the rider is on and off the horse - so always sit in > the saddle and ride in it to determine fit. Absolutely! Always do this little test: http://iceryder.net/saddlefittest.html Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
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On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 11:19:43 -0400, you wrote: >saddle fits when the rider is on and off the horse - so always sit in >the saddle and ride in it to determine fit. Yes, but a tad awkward to get photos when you're on your own! ; ) Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- "Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes"
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Will do, but it won't be until after the weekend. Mic On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:08:51 -0700, you wrote: > > >> I have used the Benni's Harmony treed saddle and liked it a lot (made >> by Stubben). I also like the Trapezius floating panel saddle (which >> feels exactly like a treed saddle to the rider, and the saddle I use >> now, the Forester Smari saddle which also has floating panels > >Mic, can you get pictures of the saddles, gullet / pommel area, off the >horse? > >And maybe pictures of the horse's back, and then the saddle on the horse? > >That'll give us an idea of how it fits. > >Thanks! > > >Judy >http://icehorses.net >http://clickryder.com > > > >IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses > >"The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, >contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and >unrealistic." > >"All truth passes through three stages. >First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. >Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer > > >[] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com >[] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com >[] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo >[] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- "Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes"
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> That'll give us an idea of how it fits. > > Thanks! > One thing I have learned this week helping my friend find a saddle that fits her horse - There can be a big difference between how a saddle fits when the rider is on and off the horse - so always sit in the saddle and ride in it to determine fit. -- Laree What a horse does under compulsion is done without understanding, and there is no beauty in it either, any more than if one should whip or spur a dancer. -Xenophon
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> I have used the Benni's Harmony treed saddle and liked it a lot (made > by Stubben). I also like the Trapezius floating panel saddle (which > feels exactly like a treed saddle to the rider, and the saddle I use > now, the Forester Smari saddle which also has floating panels Mic, can you get pictures of the saddles, gullet / pommel area, off the horse? And maybe pictures of the horse's back, and then the saddle on the horse? That'll give us an idea of how it fits. Thanks! Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
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On 10/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i like my sensation (actually i am trialing my second sensation, > as the first one -- the dressage model -- also turns out to be > too long in the flap for me) Which model are you trialling? V
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I have wondered about the references I've seen lately about "custom" Stubben saddles. Unless something has changed, I don't believe they are really a custom (as in built on the measurements of a given horse). I still have a 35 year old Stunner Siegfried. I love that saddle. I also had a Tristan dressage saddle which I hated. I don't think I even kept it long enought to break it in. The old forward seat jumping saddle is the one I put on all the youngsters. I used to even start horses in that favorite saddle. It actually fits the Icelandics pretty well, but I'd want to have the tree inspected before I actually rode in it. I have a feeling it may not be in very good shape. Nancy
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On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 06:35:35 -0400, you wrote: > I am looking for a place/brand to start looking for a new saddle for my >gelding. Is anyone using a treed dressage or all purpose saddle on their >Icelandic sucessfully and would you be willing to share the brand name with >me? I have used the Benni's Harmony treed saddle and liked it a lot (made by Stubben). I also like the Trapezius floating panel saddle (which feels exactly like a treed saddle to the rider, and the saddle I use now, the Forester Smari saddle which also has floating panels, but not as protruding as on the Trapezius. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- "Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes"
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>>>They had them custom made, I believe the brand name was Stubben. Stubben doesn't really make custom saddles, do they...? I know they can be custom flocked, but as far as I know, they don't make custom trees. I ask because a Stubben dealer with many years of experience tried to fit Sina years ago, and she told me it would be hard to do. They are very nice saddles, and they DO run wider than some other familiar brands, but all the Stubbens I've ever seen have been pretty "apex" as opposed to "arch." I had a used one briefly, but it didn't really work either. Lovely saddle though. Karen Thomas, NC
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>>> I am looking for a place/brand to start looking for a new saddle for my gelding. Is anyone using a treed dressage or all purpose saddle on their Icelandic sucessfully and would you be willing to share the brand name with me? I honestly bought or tried probably 40-50 treed saddles during the early years I owned Icelandics, and I had several saddle fitting appointments for my horses. A few would work for a while, but none really worked for Sina. As the horses would change shape, here we'd go again. The Duetts were ok for a few horses, even Sina for a while, but I finally sold that one too. Even with them, if you need larger than a 17-17.5" seat, you'll find that the panels may be too long for many Icelandic backs. I had a saddle-fitting for Sina with Carol Brett of Balance Saddles. She isn't a big fan of treeless saddles (her saddles are treed) but even she told me I'd probably have to use a treeless for her. She was the second saddle-fitter who told me that. I did like the Balance saddles, and they are lovely, lovely saddles. And, they tend to be more "arch" than "apex" in their gullets, and that makes them shaped more appropriately for most Icelandic backs. (Think of "arch" as an upsidedown "U", with "apex" as an upsidedown "V".) But, if I had to look at a treed saddle now, that would be the first brand I'd look at. Karen Thomas, NC
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Kristen. We have an old Passier dressage saddle that fits our Icelandic very well. She seems to like it and be comfortable in it. It is not particularly comfortable for me, but our grandson loves it and goes for long mountain trail rides in it on his Arab endurance horse. It was purchased used and I have no idea of the seat or tree size, but it was used before on a a 16.2 h warmblood. Tosca is 13.2. Nancy
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On 03/10/2007, Kristen Mikula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am looking for a place/brand to start looking for a > new saddle for my gelding. Is anyone using a treed > dressage or all purpose saddle on their Icelandic > sucessfully and would you be willing to share the > brand name with me? Friends of ours use treed saddles on both their Icelandics. They had them custom made, I believe the brand name was Stubben. Wanda
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Okay, let me rephrase my question: I am looking for a place/brand to start looking for a new saddle for my gelding. Is anyone using a treed dressage or all purpose saddle on their Icelandic sucessfully and would you be willing to share the brand name with me? Unfortunately the Sensation treeless did not work for me otherwise I would be headed that route. -Kristen in MI Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
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On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 11:23:27AM -0700, Kristen Mikula wrote: > So...is anyone on the list still riding an Icelandic > in a treed English saddle? What is working for you? i love love love my hrimnir treed saddle. it fits stjarni beautifully, and it's extremely comfortable. sadly for me, it's designed for folks with longer legs than mine (i'm about 5'1") and i can't *quite* get my legs under me in it. i still use it sometimes for idle hacking around, though i need a more-adjustable saddle to get proper position. i like my sensation (actually i am trialing my second sensation, as the first one -- the dressage model -- also turns out to be too long in the flap for me) very well, but i still wish the hrimnir came in a smaller seat size. --vicka
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I ride in treed saddles
