RE: [IceHorses] British Championships 2007

2007-07-03 Thread Robyn Hood
Hi Judy
>>>A Tom Thumb, especially one like the icelandic bit with such long shanks,

should only be ridden on a rein with looser contact, correct?

I wouldn't really call the Icelandic bit a Tom Thumb because the shanks are
too long.  I don't like any shanked bit with only one rein because you have
so little possibility to balance the horse. I would agree that it should be
ridden on a loose rein.  In order to balance the bit you do have to
sometimes pick up the contact but it should immediately be released. 

A Tom Thumb Pelham is a very different bit - especially when ridden with two
sets of reins and it gives the rider more choices.

As you mentioned Judy there are nice photos on from the B.C. and show a
variety of riders using less equipment.

Robyn   


Icelandic Horse Farm 
Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty
Vernon BC Canada
www.icefarm.com

  

 

 
  



Re: [IceHorses] British Championships 2007

2007-07-03 Thread Judy Ryder
>>>There is nothing wrong with
> contact, it depends how it is used.

A Tom Thumb, especially one like the icelandic bit with such long shanks, 
should only be ridden on a rein with looser contact, correct?

Otherwise the mechanics are very hard on the horse.

Interesting discussion on the gaitedhorse list about "control" of a horse 
thru the bit.   Will post that under a different subject title.


>>> think that the way to help promote empathetic ways of doing things is to
> show that it can be done without harm to the horse.

Yes, that would be very helpful and of benefit to the breed.  Waiting for 
your videos!

Thanks!


Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com




Re: [IceHorses] British Championships 2007

2007-07-03 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 03/07/07, Robyn Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It is after all a competition, and while for some that is a bad word : )), I
> think that the way to help promote empathetic ways of doing things is to
> show that it can be done without harm to the horse.  That is what we used to
> do when we competed.

Yup...I agree.  Good hands are good hands, whether they are on the
trail or at a competition.

Wanda


RE: [IceHorses] British Championships 2007

2007-07-03 Thread Robyn Hood
Hi Wanda
>>>Oh, I hadn't even noticed that.  You're right.
   I was too busy looking at his feet...Just imagine what that horse could
do if he was given more of his head.

Actually I didn't point it out for that reason.  There is nothing wrong with
contact, it depends how it is used.  I think your first impressions - no ewe
neck is very important.  The rider is connecting the horse, sitting in
balance and has a light contact, or so it looks (ideally there could be a
little more slack in the rein but it is easy to pick it apart from the
sidelines  : )).  If the rider sits behind the vertical it would be a
different feeling for the horse's back - even a small amount.

It is after all a competition, and while for some that is a bad word : )), I
think that the way to help promote empathetic ways of doing things is to
show that it can be done without harm to the horse.  That is what we used to
do when we competed.  

BTW Wanda - I have the 22" girth and will ship it today.
Robyn

Icelandic Horse Farm 
Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty
Vernon BC Canada
www.icefarm.com


  



Re: [IceHorses] British Championships 2007

2007-07-03 Thread Judy Ryder

> http://www.ihsgb.co.uk/bc15.jpg


What gait is this one:

http://www.ihsgb.co.uk/bc31.jpg


Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com 


RE: [IceHorses] British Championships 2007

2007-07-02 Thread Karen Thomas
 It is a lovely horse and rider, no ewe neck and she is riding with an
Icelandic bit so there should be a slight slack in the rein because of the
leverage.  Sadly you mostly see the bit ridden on tight contact.

I noticed that a couple of the riders are using short-shanked Pelhams - very
mild bits as shanked bits go.


Karen Thomas
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Re: [IceHorses] British Championships 2007

2007-07-02 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 02/07/07, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > http://www.ihsgb.co.uk/bc15.jpg

> What gait is the horse doing?

To me it looks like a saddle rack, but the foot fall is just slightly
off so maybe some weighting is involved to throw it off???

Wanda


Re: [IceHorses] British Championships 2007

2007-07-02 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 02/07/07, Robyn Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It is a lovely horse and rider, no ewe neck and she is riding with an
> Icelandic bit so there should be a slight slack in the rein because of the
> leverage.  Sadly you mostly see the bit ridden on tight contact.

Oh, I hadn't even noticed that.  You're right.

I was too busy looking at his feet...

Just imagine what that horse could do if he was given more of his head.

Wanda


RE: [IceHorses] British Championships 2007

2007-07-02 Thread Robyn Hood
Hi Wanda
>>>I like how this horse looks like he's moving with some self carriage...
>>>No ewe neck, or fighting the bit...

It is a lovely horse and rider, no ewe neck and she is riding with an
Icelandic bit so there should be a slight slack in the rein because of the
leverage.  Sadly you mostly see the bit ridden on tight contact.

Robyn

Icelandic Horse Farm 
Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty
Vernon BC Canada
www.icefarm.com

 

  





Re: [IceHorses] British Championships 2007

2007-07-02 Thread Judy Ryder


> http://www.ihsgb.co.uk/bc15.jpg


What gait is the horse doing?

In this one, the bit is being pulled as Nancy mentioned the other day, and 
the horse is objecting:

http://www.ihsgb.co.uk/bc2.jpg

This one is really cute (no noseband):

http://www.ihsgb.co.uk/bc6.jpg



Judy
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http://clickryder.com 



Re: [IceHorses] British Championships 2007

2007-07-02 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 02/07/07, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There are a few pictures that show gaits other than tolt can you find
> them (not the pace or canter pictures).

http://www.ihsgb.co.uk/bc15.jpg

I like how this horse looks like he's moving with some self carriage...

No ewe neck, or fighting the bit...

Wanda


Re: [IceHorses] British Championships 2007

2007-07-02 Thread Judy Ryder


> Great photography; and interestingly a few horses without nosebands and
> boots!
>
> http://www.ihsgb.co.uk/photos_bc07.htm


There are a few pictures that show gaits other than tolt can you find 
them (not the pace or canter pictures).


Judy
http://icehorses.net
http://clickryder.com