Re: [IceHorses] Doing what is best
yes oddly un-adult. But its like my friend Sylvia says... we ride with people and two of them in the last five years lost a teenage son each. One is a total almost psycho, just goes off in hysteria at something like a snake on the trail or something. The other is just totally maudlin depressed about 98% of the time. Me and Sylvia feel like, hey, who knows what we would be like in that cicumstance and try not to judge. but we ride with others who say is so and so invited? Cause if they are I'm not coming and we used to try and acommodate and work around all that stupid stuff but now Sylvia says life is too short for that so we just invite whoever and let them work it out. If they wanna come, fine, if they dont, fine. Nobody is asking anybody to get married or anything, i mean, heck, its a two-three hour ride for goodness sake not a lifetime committment. Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] Doing what is best
Nobody is asking anybody to get married or anything, i mean, heck, its a two-three hour ride for goodness sake not a lifetime committment. Exactly, Janice. We ride with lots of different people. I think it's good for us and good for the horses. We try really hard not to make it a command performance and not to exclude anyone. If they can come ride, great. If they can't, well maybe another time. As for the women who lost teenage sons, those are shoes I don't want to walk in. One of our former foster sons died at age 21, after a life of pain and disability, and his mom visits his grave several times a year (he's buried on our farm) and still weeps when she speaks of him. It's really not to be gotten over. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Doing what is best
The lady I ride with had a very best forever riding girlfriend. Their husbands were friends. They moved to Oregon together. The guys worked together. When the other lady went barefoot and couldn't convert Gayle, she quit speaking to her. It doesn't have to be cult-like. We don't have to put anyone on a pedestal (and we shouldn't), nor any method or discipline. There's no cookie cutter equipment, training method, riding discipline. We can strive to be as good as we can be to the horses, as natural as possible, making the best decisions for the benefit of the horse. Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Doing what is best
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 9:52 AM, susan cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We all love our Iceys and we want to do what is best for them. Those people with really strong opinions need to remember that other people are allowed to have opinions, too, and it doesn't mean one person is wrong and the other person right. They are just different. thats good Susan, thanks. And we all come from such different perspectives. I didnt even know barefoot meants something other than unshod. and I was shocked when someone said some people wont even ride with you if you have shoes on your horses ?!??!? Thats bizarre. So when I would post that all my horses are barefoot and unshod, people would think I ascribed to some pete ramey thing or something, which the opposite is true. Everyone around here who had their horses done by a new barefoot farrier who came into this area had their horses turn up lame, so I am an avid UN-believer in some yuppie new ramey type barefoot method. My farrier is so country I doubt he even has a GED and I dont know if he is certified or not. I just know he is the best in this area and I am dang lucky I am on his elite list of customers because he has a waiting list at all times. Good farriers are like that. and as for saddles, my husband has a wide tree tucker he loves and seems to work great on his horse, and as I have said before I love my custom orthoflex stitchdown that Acie at orthoflex whittled on just for me and put the new shorter more flexible panels on. I also don't know of any saddle that could be better than my antique bona allen. I have never seen a saddle that fits every horse i have BUT Tivar which nothing will fit... but imagine a saddle fitting horses needing wide trees, normal trees, or like Jas, a wide tree in front and normal in back... but it is hard as a rock after an hour or so on the trail for MY rear... I just hope from this thread tho people learn no saddle is best for all horses. My jas cannot be ridden in a treeless, he has to have spine clearance completely, 100%, not even a saddle pad becuase of his special fistula problem. i know the right pad could fix that but been there done that... riding in the rain it slipped to one side and rubbbed on his spine, that was the end of that, i could not ride him for five months. I cringe when people say oh thanks! I will run out and get that saddle for my horse! For one thing... lord the money i have spent on bad saddles... I could have bought three custom made saddles for what i have paid on bad saddles, not always bad, but bad for me and or my horse... Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] Doing what is best
On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 07:52:55AM -0800, susan cooper wrote: We all love our Iceys and we want to do what is best for them. So let us not get into a fight over tree vs. treeless. Every horse is an individual and every owner has different needs. I have treeless, but I also want a treed. That is why I went looking at all the saddles. Petty fighting and bickering don't do us any good at all, and do not lead to more knowledge. right on :) i love my sensation(s). i also love my hrimnir (extra-wide). it's all about what's best for each horse-and-rider combination, and as i have multiple riders and multiple kinds of ride, having a few options (and NEVER FORGETTING BAREBACK!! :) i think improves our overall chances of getting the best possible results :) --vicka
Re: [IceHorses] Doing what is best
I was shocked when someone said some people wont even ride with you if you have shoes on your horses ?!??!? The lady I ride with had a very best forever riding girlfriend. Their husbands were friends. They moved to Oregon together. The guys worked together. When the other lady went barefoot and couldn't convert Gayle, she quit speaking to her. I thought that was oddly un-adult. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Doing what is best
Those people with really strong opinions need to remember that other people are allowed to have opinions, too, and it doesn't mean one person is wrong and the other person right. They are just different. Amen to that. Nancy, who lives in the house of different
